falcons007 26,009 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 I don’t post hearsay and stuff pulled from anonymous sources a55. Here is TF himself. One thing which stood out from the interview is pretty telling. “That’s critical because that’s a position that regardless of where you are at your starter — we’re so excited about Matt Ryan, but we have to evaluate every one of these quarterbacks,” Fontenot said. “Not just for now, when you think big picture, if you have an opportunity — for example Trevor Lawrence, when you have an opportunity to see that player in person throw, then you have to take advantage of that. Even if you’re not going to have the opportunity at him this year, you don’t know what’s going to happen three, four, five years from now in the future. So you want to take advantage of that in-person exposure.” https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/04/13/terry-fontenot-were-excited-about-matt-ryan-but-have-to-evaluate-incoming-qbs/ I agree with TF, who knows when they prart ways with Ryan in 3-5 years, one of these QB may be available for trade. We Saw Darnold on the market in 3 years. JDFIII, Dr Long Shot, Falcons Fan MVP and 12 others 13 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WhenFalconsWin 28,079 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Due diligence, it would be negligent not to do otherwise. PokerSteve, The Daywalker, gazoo and 3 others 4 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Knight of God 54,371 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 This guy...I love Fontenot and that's truth. I dont care who he picks to be honest, dude is playing chess like a beast! wnyfalconfan, arrogantBEAST, PokerSteve and 13 others 13 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JD dirtybird21 23,207 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Something tells me a trade will happen, but literally not until after the 49ers make their pick. Knight of God, wnyfalconfan, JDaveG and 10 others 10 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonOfThemBirds 19,819 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 2 minutes ago, Knight of God said: This guy...I love Fontenot and that's truth. I dont care who he picks to be honest, dude is playing chess like a beast! He's got everyone confused and scrambling more than Mike Vick for answers lol. mtldirtybird, PokerSteve, arrogantBEAST and 4 others 4 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 26,009 Posted April 13 Author Share Posted April 13 4 minutes ago, Knight of God said: This guy...I love Fontenot and that's truth. I dont care who he picks to be honest, dude is playing chess like a beast! Yep. I may or may not like the picks but he is being thorough about the picks, FA and the team. Knight of God and arrogantBEAST 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 26,009 Posted April 13 Author Share Posted April 13 2 minutes ago, JD dirtybird21 said: Something tells me a trade will happen, but literally not until after the 49ers make their pick. I bet they have multiple options and trade offers depending on who is at #4. I bet they have the pick at #4 ready with out a trade down. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 26,009 Posted April 13 Author Share Posted April 13 3 minutes ago, DonOfThemBirds said: He's got everyone confused and scrambling more than Mike Vick for answers lol. Lol. True but I will go with Occam’s razor and guess what he is picking. DonOfThemBirds 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dapanch420 633 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Smokescr3en we are going pitts falcons007 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JD dirtybird21 23,207 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 3 minutes ago, falcons007 said: I bet they have multiple options and trade offers depending on who is at #4. I bet they have the pick at #4 ready with out a trade down. The pick at #4 if a trade falls through is very likely Pitts. However, I'm sure a deal is in place with somebody who wants Fields but just wants to make sure he's actually available. Same for Lance. rounz, JDaveG, alexhead97 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
takeitdown 4,393 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Yeah, this makes sense, and OP's point about Darnold is exactly right. If you saw Darnold, interviewed him, saw his pro day and loved him...and then thought he was hugely miscast in the NYJ offense, then you'd think he's a good reclamation project. If all you'd seen was college film that was overwhelmed by pro film, you wouldn't. We're going to need a QB in the next 5 years. They know that. So they may as well see what a top one looks like. They may see similar traits in a 3rd rounder this year, or they may see that a mid 1st rounder next year (or the year after) is as good with regards to their system as the top guys this year. A QB bust is the biggest drag on a franchise. You need to gather as much info as you possibly can to limit that. PokerSteve, RetroRoq, falcons007 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 26,009 Posted April 13 Author Share Posted April 13 3 minutes ago, JD dirtybird21 said: The pick at #4 if a trade falls through is very likely Pitts. However, I'm sure a deal is in place with somebody who wants Fields but just wants to make sure he's actually available. Same for Lance. Yep. Interesting insight about looking a QB 3,4 or 5 years from now. If Falcons are drafting a QB at #4, I doubt you looking at replacement in 3-5 years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JD dirtybird21 23,207 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Just now, falcons007 said: Yep. Interesting insight about looking a QB 3,4 or 5 years from now. If Falcons are drafting a QB at #4, I doubt you looking at replacement in 3-5 years. I've said all along that if Font and Smith really want Fields....then get him. I just would be annoyed with not investing in Fields now and making him sit on the bench. falcons007 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falconsd56 27,158 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 It makes sense....but this is something every gm talks about including TD when he was here. He was all about due diligence. Glad to see TF have the same mindset though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 26,009 Posted April 13 Author Share Posted April 13 1 minute ago, JD dirtybird21 said: I've said all along that if Font and Smith really want Fields....then get him. I just would be annoyed with not investing in Fields now and making him sit on the bench. Yep. Restructuring Ryan would be a big mistake if that was the plan. If they thought fields was their guy. I would have traded Ryan to Niners for picks, take a hit in 2021. Grab all the picks and young QB. JDaveG and PokerSteve 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDaveG 44,512 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 11 minutes ago, falcons007 said: Yep. Interesting insight about looking a QB 3,4 or 5 years from now. If Falcons are drafting a QB at #4, I doubt you looking at replacement in 3-5 years. Depends on which one you draft ............. 🙈🙉🙊 falcons007 and PokerSteve 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Herr Doktor 10,326 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 35 minutes ago, Knight of God said: This guy...I love Fontenot and that's truth. I dont care who he picks to be honest, dude is playing chess like a beast! Refreshing!! Knight of God 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
g-dawg 44,152 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 15 minutes ago, falcons007 said: Yep. Restructuring Ryan would be a big mistake if that was the plan. If they thought fields was their guy. I would have traded Ryan to Niners for picks, take a hit in 2021. Grab all the picks and young QB. Falcons were in Cap Hades. The only place to get it was from the biggest contracts once you got rid of the easy ones like Rico and Carp and not re-signing Gurley nor Neal. Cole World, PokerSteve and Herr Doktor 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FentayeJones 23,803 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 7 minutes ago, g-dawg said: Falcons were in Cap Hades. The only place to get it was from the biggest contracts once you got rid of the easy ones like Rico and Carp and not re-signing Gurley nor Neal. That was the problem with the way the Falcons' contracts were constructed. Even after making the obvious cuts (Carp, Rico, Baily) they were still way in the hole. I dont think they had much of a choice but to restructure Ryan even if they didn't want to. And even after all of the moves they made they still need to make additional moves to sign the rookie class. Herr Doktor, Cole World, g-dawg and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
g-dawg 44,152 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Just now, FentayeJones said: That was the problem with the way the Falcons' contracts were constructed. Even after making the obvious cuts (Carp, Rico, Baily) there were still way in the hole. I dont think they had much of a choice but to restructure Ryan even if they didn't want to. And even after all of the moves they made they still need to make additional moves to sign the rookie class. exactly. That's why it shouldn't just be assumed that Falcons won't draft a QB at #4. While I would agree that it makes it less likely, there is likely an OUT for 2022 season if Fontenot wants it - probably "Post June 1st" cut or trade with a cap that increased. PokerSteve, Herr Doktor and Cole World 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jesus 27,593 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 He mentioned Lawrence. They are so trading up. falconsd56, PokerSteve, arrogantBEAST and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 26,009 Posted April 13 Author Share Posted April 13 30 minutes ago, g-dawg said: Falcons were in Cap Hades. The only place to get it was from the biggest contracts once you got rid of the easy ones like Rico and Carp and not re-signing Gurley nor Neal. They used 8.5 M from Ryan’s restructure. They could have easily gotten that from Grady and Debo. Extend Grady, and you are looking at much more. They could have touched Julio’s contract too. Falcons with out touching Ryan’s contract could have freed up 20 M. falconsd56, Rings, JDaveG and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 26,009 Posted April 13 Author Share Posted April 13 4 minutes ago, FentayeJones said: That was the problem with the way the Falcons' contracts were constructed. Even after making the obvious cuts (Carp, Rico, Baily) they were still way in the hole. I dont think they had much of a choice but to restructure Ryan even if they didn't want to. And even after all of the moves they made they still need to make additional moves to sign the rookie class. They had a choice, I don’t buy the no choice crap. Falcons could free up more than needed with out restructuring Ryan. JDaveG, Herr Doktor and TNFalcon1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dem Birds 11,024 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 I'm not in favor of drafting a QB even though I like all of these QBs to an extent. But if you don't evaluate them either for your decision making process or for the future then you are doing yourself a disservice. If you decide that one of these guys is a bona-fide stud then take him and let it sort itself out later. But I'd rather build this team up around the more than competent guy we already have. I'm not the GM though. falcons007, Herr Doktor and rounz 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kenn.junior 947 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 54 minutes ago, dapanch420 said: Smokescr3en we are going pitts ya'll starting to say smokescreen just to say smokescreen Dem Birds, Wardog357 and Spongebob 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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