jidady Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 https://www.nfl.com/news/peter-schrager-2021-nfl-mock-draft-1-0-pats-trade-up-for-justin-fields-cardinals Falcons trade with New England, picking up #46 this year and their first and third round picks next year in exchange for dropping to #15. Atlanta takes Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah at #15. gtech1, Knight of God, HASHBROWN3 and 2 others 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celtiksage Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 I might be okay with the trade compensation. I'd think we could get a 4th or 5th this year too in addition to what they have here. PokerSteve, JohnnyFranchise and vitaman 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jigsaw Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 Ima need that 2023 first as well if I’m going back all the way to 15. Artys Arryn, CADirtyBird, Sidecar Falcon and 10 others 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weezy01212 Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 I would want just a wee bit more to move that far down. You miss out on a blue-chip player that far down. IJS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 I'd want their 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 2022 1st. That would give us at least two picks in every round except the first. youngbloodz, HASHBROWN3, Herr Doktor and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celtiksage Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 6 minutes ago, King Jigsaw said: Ima need that 2023 first as well if I’m going back all the way to 15. Yeah, but I think that might be unrealistic honestly. SF overpaid. Put for next year's and this year's first and second (and maybe one extra 5th rounder this year if we could pull it out of them). I think trading with NE though will be like pulling teeth without anesthesia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonOfThemBirds Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 10 minutes ago, King Jigsaw said: Ima need that 2023 first as well if I’m going back all the way to 15. Pats moving up from 15 to 4 is a bigger jump than Niners 12 to 3. #4 is still a very valuable pick and a top 5 pick at that. Pats gonna have to give up the farm this year and next year's draft. MD-FalconFan13, me4falcons, opensource001 and 3 others 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaptain Krazy Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 This quote from the article jumped out at me: "The Patriots don't envision having a pick as high as they currently do (15th) anytime soon, and this is their year to make a big move if they're ever going to get their blue-chip QB to develop." Has no one from TATF explained to ol' Pete that you don't need to get your franchise QB in the 1st, that the middle rounds are just littered with future All-Pro QBs? 😉 The Great American, FentayeJones, The Bayy and 3 others 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 Yeah, for so little compensation, we shouldn't even be returning their calls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 2 minutes ago, DonOfThemBirds said: Pats moving up from 15 to 4 is a bigger jump than Niners 12 to 3. #4 is still a very valuable pick and a top 5 pick at that. Pats gonna have to give up the farm this year and next year's draft. Umhm Bill would be lucky that he wears hoodies with short sleeves..... because we should fleece him if he wants #4. DonOfThemBirds and Bigbenright 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jidady Posted April 8 Author Share Posted April 8 1 minute ago, hjerry said: Yeah, for so little compensation, we shouldn't even be returning their calls Y'all greedy! That's actually a pretty huge overpay on their part. My first thought in reading it was, "I doubt we get that much." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovie_Lover Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 6 minutes ago, celtiksage said: Yeah, but I think that might be unrealistic honestly. SF overpaid. Put for next year's and this year's first and second (and maybe one extra 5th rounder this year if we could pull it out of them). I think trading with NE though will be like pulling teeth without anesthesia. You overlay for a QB Vandy and DonOfThemBirds 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Doktor Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 I mean, sure, it checks the boxes. The value seems a tiny bit low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 2 minutes ago, jidady said: Y'all greedy! That's actually a pretty huge overpay on their part. My first thought in reading it was, "I doubt we get that much." Precedent says you're wrong Shooter Says, me4falcons and falconsd56 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rings Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 I think we could get more, I’d rather go back to Chicago even if it’s the same compensation this year. Because I have a really good feeling with Andy Dalton at QB the Bears may have a top ten pick next year, New England won’t. Artys Arryn and Fleurieu falcon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aluminafalcon Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 So we are getting a pass coverage lb when we have Deion foye and mykal? Like the one area we don’t need on defense is fast speed linebackers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonOfThemBirds Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 2 minutes ago, jidady said: Y'all greedy! That's actually a pretty huge overpay on their part. My first thought in reading it was, "I doubt we get that much." Tell that to the Dolphins. Been tearing teams a new one in trades the last few seasons. octoslash and Vandy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FentayeJones Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 7 minutes ago, Kaptain Krazy said: This quote from the article jumped out at me: "The Patriots don't envision having a pick as high as they currently do (15th) anytime soon, and this is their year to make a big move if they're ever going to get their blue-chip QB to develop." Has no one from TATF explained to ol' Pete that you don't need to get your franchise QB in the 1st, that the middle rounds are just littered with future All-Pro QBs? 😉 The irony of TATF lol 804_Falconfan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jidady Posted April 8 Author Share Posted April 8 1 minute ago, hjerry said: Precedent says you're wrong It's an extra first, second, and third. By the value chart, they're paying about 800 points than needed. SF has screwed our perspectives a bit, but I'd be thrilled if we got a deal this good. We'd have three picks in the top 50 this year and three more picks in the first two rounds next year, five in the first three. That's how a thin roster gets deep. If we can get more, I'm all for it, but this struck me as more than fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonOfThemBirds Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 Just now, jidady said: It's an extra first, second, and third. By the value chart, they're paying about 800 points than needed. SF has screwed our perspectives a bit, but I'd be thrilled if we got a deal this good. We'd have three picks in the top 50 this year and three more picks in the first two rounds next year, five in the first three. That's how a thin roster gets deep. If we can get more, I'm all for it, but this struck me as more than fair. You force a team to spend more. Especially if there's competition for the #4 pick. Make them pay very high for a QB. hjerry, me4falcons and JohnnyFranchise 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 4 minutes ago, jidady said: It's an extra first, second, and third. By the value chart, they're paying about 800 points than needed. SF has screwed our perspectives a bit, but I'd be thrilled if we got a deal this good. We'd have three picks in the top 50 this year and three more picks in the first two rounds next year, five in the first three. That's how a thin roster gets deep. If we can get more, I'm all for it, but this struck me as more than fair. Screw the chart "Trade value" goes out the window when a team is trading up for a QB Take them for everything thanat0s, falconsd56, Vandy and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 1 minute ago, hjerry said: Screw the chart "Trade value" goes out the window when a team is trading up for a QB Take them for everything Yup This is the same discussion that we have every year. Value is relative... And when you're talking about trading for a quarterback all the metrics and suppose value get thrown out the window. Vandy and thanat0s 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dem Birds Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 23 minutes ago, Kaptain Krazy said: This quote from the article jumped out at me: "The Patriots don't envision having a pick as high as they currently do (15th) anytime soon, and this is their year to make a big move if they're ever going to get their blue-chip QB to develop." Has no one from TATF explained to ol' Pete that you don't need to get your franchise QB in the 1st, that the middle rounds are just littered with future All-Pro QBs? 😉 The Patriots have already used their once in a lifetime luck on a late round QB. We have not lol. Kaptain Krazy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dem Birds Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 The only reason I could see us not absolutely sticking it to a team for picks this year is that we don't have the cap room to sign 12 or 13 players. Even rookies. Maybe they take more from the next draft for that reason. Just something to think about JohnnyFranchise and jidady 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 50 minutes ago, jidady said: https://www.nfl.com/news/peter-schrager-2021-nfl-mock-draft-1-0-pats-trade-up-for-justin-fields-cardinals Falcons trade with New England, picking up #46 this year and their first and third round picks next year in exchange for dropping to #15. Atlanta takes Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah at #15. Only if we use him at SS Artys Arryn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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