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2 minutes ago, kenn.junior said:

plus dont the saints look foolish right now having to lean on a QB that a team just dropped and picked up another QB and won the SB now the saints have no true back up plan cuz they will still be competitive enough to not get a top pick and have to trade the future to grab a qb 

There is a fine line to bring in a new QB. We're talking all future HOFers here, not just any old QBs.  Lest anyone think that decision is easy or right. 

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The biggest reason to draft a QB is that we only have one on the roster. We were paying Matt Schaub six million to sit on the bench, but you're afraid to pay a rookie QB similar money to sit and learn

Is this baby missing some fingers or something? Or could you still count Schaub’s starts on an adult’s hand as well? 😂

How many days until the draft?

48 minutes ago, WhenFalconsWin said:

Yep, did the pats draft Brady's heir, the saints Breesus heir, no they didn't. They kept building these teams to be competitive for their franchise QBs, instead of DRAFTING A GUY TO SIT FOR A COUPLE OF SEASON. 

Okay, point counterpoint, there will be the GB and Aaron Rodgers crowd, and the KC and Mahomes crowd that will chime in. 

It's well documented the Saints wanted Mahomes and were set to take him in the 1st until the Chiefs traded up one pick ahead of them. Patriots drafted Jimmy G in the 2nd and later traded him away for even more. Packers took Love in the 1st. 

The one thing all these teams have in common is that their teams never drafted in the top 5 in the time that those guys were the QBs so the comparison isn't really apples to apples.

7-9 is about as bad as it gets normally if you have a franchise QB. You would be hard pressed to find one that went 4-12 and played the whole season. 

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27 minutes ago, PriMeTiiMe said:

It's well documented the Saints wanted Mahomes and were set to take him in the 1st until the Chiefs traded up one pick ahead of them. Patriots drafted Jimmy G in the 2nd and later traded him away for even more. Packers took Love in the 1st. 

The one thing all these teams have in common is that their teams never drafted in the top 5 in the time that those guys were the QBs so the comparison isn't really apples to apples.

7-9 is about as bad as it gets normally if you have a franchise QB. You would be hard pressed to find one that went 4-12 and played the whole season. 

Falcons problem is not at the QB (and they will not draft one at #4) the problem has been that the Falcons put a few flashy offensive Ferrari's around Ice without building the trenches, running game, and defense. 

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3 minutes ago, WhenFalconsWin said:

Dude, that was 2014, let's just say that didn't work out for them. 

it was known that Belichick was gonna get rid of brady and start with jimmy g but brady went to Mr. Kraft and made Belichick trade him 

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6 minutes ago, falcons007 said:

top 5 picks? Falcons should draft one in mid rounds.

why? why would we try and risk getting someone late when usually those guys turn out to be duds and not take someone that has a chance to be great with our 4th pick

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2 minutes ago, WhenFalconsWin said:

Falcons problem is not at the QB (and they will not draft one at #4) the problem has been that the Falcons but a few flashy offensive Ferrari's around Ice without building the trenches, running game, and defense. 

like i said in other threads if you believe there isnt a chance they take a qb at 4 youre delusional 

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6 minutes ago, kenn.junior said:

why? why would we try and risk getting someone late when usually those guys turn out to be duds and not take someone that has a chance to be great with our 4th pick

Name one successful QB pick in top 5, not the first QB taken in draft from last 10-15 years. I will name ton of mid round picks. 

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26 minutes ago, kenn.junior said:

like i said in other threads if you believe there isnt a chance they take a qb at 4 youre delusional 

There’s always a chance....but as WFW said, they are sitting in a unique position to re- build this team quickly rather than picking a QB to sit for two years and continually languishing in mediocrity as they have the last 3 seasons ....and who know’s what happens afterwards.....how they attack this draft will speak volumes about new regime’s strategic thinking. So far, I like what I’m seeing in how they’ve been keeping things close to the vest.

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5 hours ago, FalconOdense said:

Money or Cap.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenhausen/2020/04/24/2020-nfl-draft-first-round-rookie-salary-projections-what-burrow-tua-and-chase-young-will-make/?sh=3f09da335be3

Looking at this list. Tua was a fifth overall selection. Got 30,3mio for four years. We might have to pay a bit more with the fourth overall selection.

Is it really realistic that we want to pay a guy sitting on the bench for at least two years that kind of money when we have NO cap space? It would be different if we had a cheaper QB or more cap, but we dont.

We have to take full advantage of the money that we do have. Our draft picks needs to play and fill a void - not holding a clipboard.

It should be around the 30mil mark for 4. It probably won't increase because of the decline in the cap. But, yes, it should be close to what it was last year, 29-33 mill for a 4th pick.

Also look at the players above and billow. The pay scale seems to decrease by about 2mill a year from 1-6. It doesn't matter what the position is. They all get paid similarly in that area. Well #1 could be a lot higher.

If the talent is worth the value, you take him. We'll know the answer when TF/AS make their pick.

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Just now, Vandy said:

There’s always a chance....but as WFW said, they are sitting in a unique position to re- build this team quickly rather than picking a QB to sit for two years and who know’s what happens afterwards.....how they attack this draft will speak volumes about new regime’s strategic thinking. 

i think its smart maybe im just dumb or something cuz picking for your heir apparent is smart especially for someone like lance who is only 20 years old who didnt play a bunch of games cuz of covid so its a perfect situation for him and us to not rush him and to pick up right where matt left off. we dont need to trade a bunch of picks to get him cuz he right there in on laps 

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21 minutes ago, falcons007 said:

Name one successful QB pick in top 5, not the first QB taken in draft from last 10-15 years. I will name ton of mid round picks. 

lets be real the last really good qb picked in the mid rounds is Russ, Cousins, and Dak and 2 of the 3 are average 

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2 minutes ago, kenn.junior said:

lets be real the last really good qb picked in the mid rounds is Russ, Cousins, and Dak and 2 of the 3 are average 

Lets be real. You still haven't Listed the QB picked in top 5 (outside first QB picked) who were successful. I will take Wilson, Cousins, Carr and heck even Jimmy G and Foles over these top 5 busts. 

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42 minutes ago, WhenFalconsWin said:

Falcons problem is not at the QB (and they will not draft one at #4) the problem has been that the Falcons put a few flashy offensive Ferrari's around Ice without building the trenches, running game, and defense. 

And picking a TE at #4 wouldn't be a repeating that mistake because....?

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27 minutes ago, falcons007 said:

Name one successful QB pick in top 5, not the first QB taken in draft from last 10-15 years. I will name ton of mid round picks. 

You cannot name a ton. Theirs been a couple out of hundreds selected that went on to have good careers. 

Then to proceed to eliminate one of the picks in the top 5 to better fit the agenda is cherry picking at it's finest. How often is their this many good QBs projected go in the top 10? Normally you have 1-2 max. Maybe 3 in a crazy year. This year we have 4 maybe 5 going in the top 10. This is not your normal year for QB talent.

Typically the one great QB goes 1st (Which is why you are cherry picking that out of the discussion) and then you have mediocre reaches soon after for a QB desperate team.

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Just now, PriMeTiiMe said:

You cannot name a ton. Theirs been a couple out of hundreds selected that went on to have good careers. 

Then to proceed to eliminate one of the picks in the top 5 to better fit the agenda is cherry picking at it's finest. How often is their this many good QBs projected go in the top 10? Normally you have 1-2 max. Maybe 3 in a crazy year. This year we have 4 maybe 5 going in the top 10. This is not your normal year for QB talent.

Typically the one great QB goes 1st (Which is why you are cherry picking that out of the discussion) and then you have mediocre reaches soon after for a QB desperate team.

How am I cherry picking? My comment was relevant to #4 pick. Falcons aren't picking #1 over all and picking at 4. Its simple, list the top 5 QB taken after the first guy went off. There were a lot of QB taken in top 5 (outside #1 over all) and they were all busts. 

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