Refried Beans Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 All those thinking you gotta draft a QB because you got the 4th pick are WRONG. See QB draft history below, lots and lots of good QBS drafted outside of first round. NFL is NOT a QB driven league it is a linemen driven league. http://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/positions/qb Herr Doktor, JohnnyFranchise, AUTiger7222 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconofShadows Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 You can definitely get a QB in the rounds past the first....but it's super rare other then the names you listed there's aren't to many more successful ones in the 2-7 rounds.(and don't say Tom Brady) Malachore, Dirtier Bird and Atl Falcon 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
804_Falconfan Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Refried Beans said: All those thinking you gotta draft a QB because you got the 4th pick are WRONG. See QB draft history below, lots and lots of good QBS drafted outside of first round. NFL is NOT a QB driven league it is a linemen driven league. http://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/positions/qb You don't HAVE to draft a QB at 4 but if there's a guy the FO likes at #4 then you don't rule it out because "you can find good QBs in the 4th round" Dirtier Bird, Beast-N-Da-Sheetz, celtiksage and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
408Falcon Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Yep... Kellen Mond later on works for me. Dirtier Bird, Run 'n' Shoot, bossFALCON™ and 3 others 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belmont4213 Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 The most telling thing to me about this is the relative success of QBs taken outside of the top 5 who turn out to be successful compared to the those taken in the top 5. When you look at where Mahomes, Rodgers, Allen, Jackson, etc. were taken, it seems to indicate that the myth that you have to “take advantage of the one time we’ll be picking this high” is bogus. We could have a middling team next year and potentially get a stud in the middle of the first, particularly if we have picks to use as ammo when moving around anm263, Run 'n' Shoot, autigerfan and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
804_Falconfan Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 8 minutes ago, Refried Beans said: All those thinking you gotta draft a QB because you got the 4th pick are WRONG. See QB draft history below, lots and lots of good QBS drafted outside of first round. NFL is NOT a QB driven league it is a linemen driven league. http://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/positions/qb So based on the list in the link, outside of Dak and Russ there hasn't been a good to very good QB drafted after the first round in the last decade unless I'm missing someone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetJones11 Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 3 examples in the last 15 years ... Jerz, Atl Falcon, Rings and 4 others 3 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
804_Falconfan Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, belmont4213 said: The most telling thing to me about this is the relative success of QBs taken outside of the top 5 who turn out to be successful compared to the those taken in the top 5. When you look at where Mahomes, Rodgers, Allen, Jackson, etc. were taken, it seems to indicate that the myth that you have to “take advantage of the one time we’ll be picking this high” is bogus. We could have a middling team next year and potentially get a stud in the middle of the first, particularly if we have picks to use as ammo when moving around Why pass on a guy you think is a stud at #4 this year for the possibility of finding a stud at pick #20 next year? If the FO thinks they will need a QB in the next couple years why not go with the "bird in hand"? Dirtier Bird, Atl Falcon and sappy1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takeitdown Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 I don't want a QB at 4, but it's really hard to hit on QBs after the first round. Very rare. gazoo and Atl Falcon 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PriMeTiiMe Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 25 minutes ago, Refried Beans said: All those thinking you gotta draft a QB because you got the 4th pick are WRONG. See QB draft history below, lots and lots of good QBS drafted outside of first round. NFL is NOT a QB driven league it is a linemen driven league. http://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/positions/qb Congrats on naming 3. Now list the 926281747293732 failed QBs after Round 1. sappy1, Rings and Cole World 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
804_Falconfan Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, WhenFalconsWin said: Tom Brady 6th round A true unicorn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
408Falcon Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, takeitdown said: I don't want a QB at 4, but it's really hard to hit on QBs after the first round. Very rare. Yes. So don't draft one. Take Pitts or trade down. Either one. But QB at 4 with Fields/Lance/Jones... Doesn't really make me think we have the face of the franchise at QB. Or excite me for the future. I'd rather see what happens in FA a few years down the road or see what's there 2 years from now in the draft. Slimm and JohnnyFranchise 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
804_Falconfan Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, WhenFalconsWin said: Romo undrafted Unless you're going to come up with 10 more guys that were considered very good to great QBs in the last decade it isn't going to average out all the guys who didn't make it as later round picks. Edited April 5, 2021 by 804_Falconfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takeitdown Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 9 minutes ago, 408Falcon said: Yes. So don't draft one. Take Pitts or trade down. Either one. But QB at 4 with Fields/Lance/Jones... Doesn't really make me think we have the face of the franchise at QB. Or excite me for the future. I'd rather see what happens in FA a few years down the road or see what's there 2 years from now in the draft. Agreed. My point is you can not want to take a QB this year and still know that it's hard to hit on one after the first round. We'll either have to take a FA in a few years or a 1st round QB, either of which is fine. 408Falcon and JohnnyFranchise 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
804_Falconfan Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 If you really want a sports car, you don't pass on buying it when it's in front of you today because there's a "chance" you'll be able to find one for free in a random parking lot next year. The real question isn't whether QBs should be drafted at 4. It's where TF and AS have the QBs on their board. I trust them either way, whether we pick BPA or trade down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
408Falcon Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, 804_Falconfan said: If you really want a sports car, you don't pass on buying it when it's in front of you today because there's a "chance" you'll be able to find one for free in a random parking lot next year. The real question isn't whether QBs should be drafted at 4. It's where TF and AS have the QBs on their board. I trust them either way, whether we pick BPA or trade down. Terrible analogy, but I get what you are trying to say... I think.... At the end of the day... Lawrence and Wilson are the sport cars. The rest are family oriented Mini Vans that can get you to point A or B, but aren't turning heads on the freeway. Absolute 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Refried Beans said: All those thinking you gotta draft a QB because you got the 4th pick are WRONG. See QB draft history below, lots and lots of good QBS drafted outside of first round. NFL is NOT a QB driven league it is a linemen driven league. http://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/positions/qb Why you have to go rile up the QB crowd when they had quieted down after the Pitts chatter? Come on bro. RING OF HONOR, Run 'n' Shoot, JohnnyFranchise and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDaveG Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 45 minutes ago, FalconofShadows said: You can definitely get a QB in the rounds past the first....but it's super rare other then the names you listed there's aren't to many more successful ones in the 2-7 rounds.(and don't say Tom Brady) Tom Brady FINE! But also, Tom Brady. FalconofShadows 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 45 minutes ago, 408Falcon said: Yes. So don't draft one. Take Pitts or trade down. Either one. But QB at 4 with Fields/Lance/Jones... Doesn't really make me think we have the face of the franchise at QB. Or excite me for the future. I'd rather see what happens in FA a few years down the road or see what's there 2 years from now in the draft. Same here. FA, trade, draft will all be options for Ryan's replacement two or three years down the road. How many great QBs were drafted in the top 4 over the last decade? Probably not many. JohnnyFranchise 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing Floor Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 There are some 1st rounders who have been in the semis and Super Bowl. And some who tanked. I’d expect that. Drafting is a gamble on an educated guess. There are more 1 and 2 round successful QBs than 3-4 round. But there’s absolutely no guarantee. There is very little correlation between college and NFL success in QB. Too many variables. You know a mad dog linebacker can tackle but you don’t know how a QB on a dominant team will rise when everyone is near parity. JohnnyFranchise and 408Falcon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWFALCON Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 54 minutes ago, JetJones11 said: 3 examples in the last 15 years ... So you’re saying there’s a chance. Fleurieu falcon and 408Falcon 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 I read on TATF that all Falcon fans will die of SarsBirdFlu-21 within the first 30 days after the draft if we don't select a QB with the 4th pick in the draft. Bigbenright 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconofShadows Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 21 minutes ago, JDaveG said: Tom Brady FINE! But also, Tom Brady. ...if I was good at jif's boy you'd get it lol JDaveG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someday soon Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 21 minutes ago, 408Falcon said: Terrible analogy, but I get what you are trying to say... I think.... At the end of the day... Lawrence and Wilson are the sport cars. The rest are family oriented Mini Vans that can get you to point A or B, but aren't turning heads on the freeway. Please list your credentials in the QB scouting dept when you get a chance. I'm sure it will take awhile to type it out. TIA Atl Falcon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red falcon Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 51 minutes ago, WhenFalconsWin said: Tom Brady 6th round Scott Peoli on 92.9 the game last week said they had a 3rd round grade on brady. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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