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3 hours ago, Friendly Folk said:

Maybe a bit unfair. Looking back to 2003, the Hawks only had a top 5 pick 3 times since then. Marvin Williams, Al Horford, and Luka Doncic which became Trae. Marvin was a big miss but the other two were hits. If anything the Hawks have been the epitome of mediocrity. Too bad to make the playoffs or go far in them, and too good to get a high draft pick. 
 

In my opinion, any pick outside the top 5 can pretty much be a crap shoot. As much as all 7 rounds of the NFL draft are captivating to see unfold, the NBA draft is pretty much over after the top 8-10 picks. Some pan out and others don’t. It’s doubtful that many past the top 10 will make a splash in the NBA. 

You’re not including Sheldon Williams who was a former top 5 pick. 
 

The Marvin Williams pick was unforgivable for me due to passing over Chris Paul. We needed a pg at the time. Not another wing who didn’t start a college game. And look how accomplished Paul is now and he is still producing. 

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OP was updated to include the Chiefs/Ravens trade. Chiefs now only have 6 picks and Ravens now have 9.

 

April 23rd, 2021 at 2:15pm CST by Zachary Links

This is breaking news. Please refresh for updates.

The Ravens have agreed to trade Orlando Brown to the Chiefs (Twitter link via Ian Rapoport and Mike Garafolo of NFL.com). As a part of the deal, the Ravens will receive the Chiefs’ No. 31 overall choice in next week’s draft while sending their No. 58 pick to KC along with Brown.

Chiefs Receive:

  • OT Orlando Brown
  • 2021 second-round pick (No. 58 overall)
  • 2022 sixth-round pick

Ravens Receive:

  • 2021 first-round pick (No. 31 overall)
  • 2021 third-round pick (No. 94 overall)
  • 2021 fourth-round pick (No. 136 overall)
  • 2022 fifth-round pick

Brown, a 2018 third-round choice, moved from right tackle to left tackle last year to fill in for Ronnie Stanley. After turning in a strong year at LT, Brown told the Ravens that he didn’t want to go back to the other side. The Ravens have kept mum on the situation, but they’ve been listening on offers for the last few months.

The difference between left tackle and right tackle can amount to tens of millions of dollars over the long run. However, the Oklahoma product says his preference stemmed from his late father’s wishes.

“He always told me, ‘Don’t settle for playing right tackle. Make sure that when it comes time and you get to every level, you’re playing left,” the younger Brown said recently.

It’s not immediately clear whether the Oklahoma product will receive a new contract from the Chiefs straight away. For now, he has one more year to go on his rookie deal. After that, the Chiefs will have the option of using the franchise tag to cuff him for 2022.

The Ravens are now armed with two first round picks — their original No. 27 plus the No. 31 pick. That should give them ample ammo to trade for a new tackle, though they may circle back to Alejandro Villanueva instead, allowing them to address other needs late in the first round. Ultimately, the Ravens were facing two major issues with Brown. 1. They couldn’t unseat Stanley to put him on the left side and 2. A top-of-the market deal for him would have created a serious numbers crunch down the road, especially with Lamar Jackson‘s upcoming payday.

Meanwhile, the Chiefs have scored a top-flight young blocker — one that’s far better than any of this year’s Tier 2 options. Brown will help to fill the void left by the departures of starting tackles Mitchell Schwartz and Eric Fisher, who were released for financial and health reasons.

Pro Football Focus has viewed Brown as a top-25 tackle in each of the past two seasons, so he’ll be seeking a contract to match. His ex-teammate Stanley, David Bakhtiari and Laremy Tunsil have all elevated the left tackle market, which means that Brown could aim for something just shy of $22MM annually. At minimum, Brown’s camp will likely open talks by asking for $18MM per annum — that’s how much leading right tackle Lane Johnson makes per year.

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On 3/26/2021 at 8:22 PM, AUTiger7222 said:

I went through the updated NFL draft order posted here. Here's how many picks each team has and where those picks are.

ARIZONA CARDINALS - 6

  • Pick 16 - Round 1
  • Pick 49 - Round 2
  • Pick 160 - Round 5
  • Pick 223 - Round 6
  • Pick 243 - Round 7
  • Pick 247 - Round 7

ATLANTA FALCONS - 9

  • Pick 4 - Round 1
  • Pick 35 - Round 2
  • Pick 68 - Round 3
  • Pick 108 - Round 4
  • Pick 148 - Round 5
  • Pick 182 - Round 5
  • Pick 183 - Round 5
  • Pick 187 - Round 6
  • Pick 219 - Round 6

BALTIMORE RAVENS - 9

  • Pick 27 - Round 1
  • Pick 31 - Round 1
  • Pick 94 - Round 3
  • Pick 104 - Round 3
  • Pick 131 - Round 4
  • Pick 136 - Round 4
  • Pick 171 - Round 5
  • Pick 184 - Round 5
  • Pick 210 - Round 6

BUFFALO BILLS - 7

  • Pick 30 - Round 1
  • Pick 61 - Round 2
  • Pick 93 - Round 3
  • Pick 161 - Round 5
  • Pick 174 - Round 5
  • Pick 213 - Round 6
  • Pick 236 - Round 7

CAROLINA PANTHERS - 8

  • Pick 8 - Round 1
  • Pick 39 - Round 2
  • Pick 73 - Round 3
  • Pick 113 - Round 4
  • Pick 151 - Round 5
  • Pick 193 - Round 6
  • Pick 222 - Round 6
  • Pick 226 - Round 6

CHICAGO BEARS - 9

  • Pick 20 - Round 1
  • Pick 52 - Round 2
  • Pick 83 - Round 3
  • Pick 164 - Round 5
  • Pick 169 - Round 5
  • Pick 204 - Round 6
  • Pick 208 - Round 6
  • Pick 221 - Round 6
  • Pick 228 - Round 6

CINCINNATI BENGALS - 8

  • Pick 5 - Round 1
  • Pick 38 - Round 2
  • Pick 69 - Round 3
  • Pick 111 - Round 4
  • Pick 149 - Round 5
  • Pick 190 - Round 6
  • Pick 202 - Round 6
  • Pick 235 - Round 7

CLEVELAND BROWNS - 8

  • Pick 26 - Round 1
  • Pick 59 - Round 2
  • Pick 89 - Round 3
  • Pick 91 - Round 3
  • Pick 110 - Round 4
  • Pick 132 - Round 4
  • Pick 211 - Round 6
  • Pick 257 - Round 7

DALLAS COWBOYS - 10

  • Pick 10 - Round 1
  • Pick 44 - Round 2
  • Pick 75 - Round 3
  • Pick 99 - Round 3
  • Pick 115 - Round 4
  • Pick 138 - Round 4
  • Pick 179 - Round 5
  • Pick 192 - Round 6
  • Pick 227 - Round 6
  • Pick 238 - Round 7

DENVER BRONCOS - 9

  • Pick 9 - Round 1
  • Pick 40 - Round 2
  • Pick 71 - Round 3
  • Pick 114 - Round 4
  • Pick 152 - Round 5
  • Pick 191 - Round 6
  • Pick 237 - Round 7
  • Pick 239 - Round 7
  • Pick 253 - Round 7

DETROIT LIONS - 6

  • Pick 7 - Round 1
  • Pick 41 - Round 2
  • Pick 72 - Round 3
  • Pick 101 - Round 3
  • Pick 112 - Round 4
  • Pick 153 - Round 5

GREEN BAY PACKERS - 10

  • Pick 29 - Round 1
  • Pick 62 - Round 2
  • Pick 92 - Round 3
  • Pick 135 - Round 4
  • Pick 142 - Round 4
  • Pick 173 - Round 5
  • Pick 178 - Round 5
  • Pick 214 - Round 6
  • Pick 220 - Round 6
  • Pick 256 - Round 7

HOUSTON TEXANS - 8

  • Pick 67 - Round 3
  • Pick 109 - Round 4
  • Pick 147 - Round 5
  • Pick 158 - Round 5
  • Pick 195 - Round 6
  • Pick 203 - Round 6
  • Pick 212 - Round 6
  • Pick 233 - Round 7

INDIANAPOLIS COLTS - 6

  • Pick 21 - Round 1
  • Pick 54 - Round 2
  • Pick 127 - Round 4
  • Pick 165 - Round 5
  • Pick 206 - Round 6
  • Pick 248 - Round 7

JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS - 10

  • Pick 1 - Round 1
  • Pick 25 - Round 1
  • Pick 33 - Round 2
  • Pick 45 - Round 2
  • Pick 65 - Round 3
  • Pick 106 - Round 4
  • Pick 130 - Round 4
  • Pick 145 - Round 5
  • Pick 170 - Round 5
  • Pick 249 - Round 7

KANSAS CITY CHIEFS - 6

  • Pick 58 - Round 2
  • Pick 63 - Round 2
  • Pick 144 - Round 4
  • Pick 175 - Round 5
  • Pick 181 - Round 5
  • Pick 207 - Round 6

LAS VEGAS RAIDERS - 8

  • Pick 17 - Round 1
  • Pick 48 - Round 2
  • Pick 79 - Round 3
  • Pick 80 - Round 3
  • Pick 121 - Round 4
  • Pick 162 - Round 5
  • Pick 167 - Round 5
  • Pick 200 - Round 6

LOS ANGELES CHARGERS - 9

  • Pick 13 - Round 1
  • Pick 47 - Round 2
  • Pick 77 - Round 3
  • Pick 97 - Round 3
  • Pick 118 - Round 4
  • Pick 159 - Round 5
  • Pick 185 - Round 6
  • Pick 198 - Round 6
  • Pick 241 - Round 7

LOS ANGELES RAMS - 6

  • Pick 57 - Round 2
  • Pick 88 - Round 3
  • Pick 103 - Round 3
  • Pick 141 - Round 4
  • Pick 209 - Round 6
  • Pick 252 - Round 7

MIAMI DOLPHINS - 8

  • Pick 6 - Round 1
  • Pick 18 - Round 1
  • Pick 36 - Round 2
  • Pick 50 - Round 2
  • Pick 81 - Round 3
  • Pick 156 - Round 5
  • Pick 231 - Round 7
  • Pick 258 - Round 7

MINNESOTA VIKINGS - 10

  • Pick 14 - Round 1
  • Pick 78 - Round 3
  • Pick 90 - Round 3
  • Pick 119 - Round 4
  • Pick 125 - Round 4
  • Pick 134 - Round 4
  • Pick 143 - Round 4
  • Pick 157 - Round 5
  • Pick 168 - Round 5
  • Pick 199 - Round 6

NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS - 10

  • Pick 15 - Round 1
  • Pick 46 - Round 2
  • Pick 96 - Round 3
  • Pick 120 - Round 4
  • Pick 122 - Round 4
  • Pick 139 - Round 4
  • Pick 177 - Round 5
  • Pick 188 - Round 6
  • Pick 197 - Round 6
  • Pick 242 - Round 7

NEW ORLEANS SAINTS - 8

  • Pick 28 - Round 1
  • Pick 60 - Round 2
  • Pick 98 - Round 3
  • Pick 105 - Round 3
  • Pick 133 - Round 4
  • Pick 218 - Round 6
  • Pick 229 - Round 7
  • Pick 255 - Round 7

NEW YORK JETS - 9

  • Pick 2 - Round 1
  • Pick 23 - Round 1
  • Pick 34 - Round 2
  • Pick 66 - Round 3
  • Pick 86 - Round 3
  • Pick 107 - Round 4
  • Pick 146 - Round 5
  • Pick 154 - Round 5
  • Pick 186 - Round 6

NEW YORK GIANTS - 6

  • Pick 11 - Round 1
  • Pick 42 - Round 2
  • Pick 76 - Round 3
  • Pick 116 - Round 4
  • Pick 196 - Round 5
  • Pick 201 - Round 6

PHILADELPHIA EAGLES - 11

  • Pick 12 - Round 1
  • Pick 37 - Round 2
  • Pick 70 - Round 3
  • Pick 84 - Round 3
  • Pick 123 - Round 4
  • Pick 150 - Round 5
  • Pick 189 - Round 6
  • Pick 224 - Round 6
  • Pick 225 - Round 6
  • Pick 234 - Round 7
  • Pick 240 - Round 7

PITTSBURGH STEELERS - 8

  • Pick 24 - Round 1
  • Pick 55 - Round 2
  • Pick 87 - Round 3
  • Pick 128 - Round 4
  • Pick 140 - Round 4
  • Pick 216 - Round 6
  • Pick 245 - Round 7
  • Pick 254 - Round 7

SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS - 9

  • Pick 3 - Round 1
  • Pick 43 - Round 2
  • Pick 102 - Round 3
  • Pick 117 - Round 4
  • Pick 155 - Round 5
  • Pick 172 - Round 5
  • Pick 180 - Round 5
  • Pick 194 - Round 6
  • Pick 230 - Round 7

SEATTLE SEAHAWKS - 3

  • Pick 56 - Round 2
  • Pick 129 - Round 4
  • Pick 250 - Round 7

TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS - 8

  • Pick 32 - Round 1
  • Pick 64 - Round 2
  • Pick 95 - Round 3
  • Pick 137 - Round 4
  • Pick 176 - Round 5
  • Pick 217 - Round 6
  • Pick 251 - Round 7
  • Pick 259 - Round 7

TENNESSEE TITANS - 9

  • Pick 22 - Round 1
  • Pick 53 - Round 2
  • Pick 85 - Round 3
  • Pick 100 - Round 3
  • Pick 126 - Round 4
  • Pick 166 - Round 5
  • Pick 205 - Round 6
  • Pick 215 - Round 6
  • Pick 232 - Round 7

WASHINGTON FOOTBALL TEAM - 8

  • Pick 19 - Round 1
  • Pick 51 - Round 2
  • Pick 74 - Round 3
  • Pick 82 - Round 3
  • Pick 124 - Round 4
  • Pick 163 - Round 5
  • Pick 244 - Round 7
  • Pick 246 - Round 7

I figure we can use this thread to talk about the draft picks as they happen and discuss trades and such. Have it all contained to one thread for easy reference.

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OP updated to include the Teddy Bridgewater trade. Panthers now have 9 picks while the Broncos have 8.

 

April 28th, 2021 at 1:06pm CST by Zachary Links

Teddy Bridgewater is going to the Broncos. The Panthers have agreed to send the quarterback to Denver in exchange for a sixth-round pick, as Tom Pelissero of NFL.com tweets.

As a part of the deal, the Panthers will pay out $7MM of Bridgewater’s salary for the coming year. The Broncos will only take on a fraction of his pay, at $3MM. With the Panthers eating the lion’s share of what’s owed to Bridgewater, the Broncos remain open to quarterbacks in the first-round of Thursday’s draft, Adam Schefter of ESPN.com (on Twitter) hears.

Bridgwater represents new competition for Drew Lock, who was already facing the possibility of competing with rookie QB selected with the No. 9 pick. Last year, Lock’s QBR put him near the bottom of the league. In turn, the Broncos tried to swing a deal for Matthew Stafford, but the Rams beat him to the punch. The Broncos didn’t see Carson Wentz or Sam Darnold as worthwhile upgrades, but Lock’s seat has stayed hot throughout the offseason.

Broncos GM George Paton had an up close look at Bridgewater during his salad days with the Vikings. Paton was with the team when they selected the Louisville product in the first round of the 2014 draft. That familiarity likely put Bridgewater ahead of Gardner MinshewJimmy Garoppolo, and other available passers on their wish list.

Bridgewater has two seasons left on the three-year, $63MM deal he inked with Carolina. The 28-year-old (29 in November) completed 69% of his passes in 2020 with just 15 touchdown throws. While the Panthers chose Darnold’s upside over another year with the veteran, he still profiles as a solid alternative to Lock.

The Panthers now own the No. 191 overall pick, but the real upside comes in the form of financial relief. Now, GM Scott Fitterer has a few more dollars to work with, plus a substantially lighter cap for 2022. Meanwhile, Darnold may have a little more confidence moving forward as he looks to reboot his career in the NFC South.

 

April 28th, 2021 at 2:19pm CST by Zachary Links

In order to facilitate his trade to the Broncos, Teddy Bridgewater agreed to restructure his contract (Twitter link via Mike Klis of 9News). Now, Bridgewater has just one year remaining on his deal, rather than two.

By truncating the three-year, $63MM deal he signed last year, Bridgewater has given the Broncos extra flexibility beyond 2021. Meanwhile, the Broncos also got the Panthers to pick up $7MM of his $10MM guarantee. Between the remaining $3MM and Bridgewater’s forthcoming $1.5MM salary, they’ll be paying him just $4.5MM — a reasonable price for a backup quarterback who may wind up supplanting Drew Lock as the starter. As Klis notes, it’s a fraction of what Andy Dalton got ($10.5MM) from the Bears earlier this year.

Bridgewater struggled in his first year with the Panthers, but he was one of the league’s hottest free agents just ~14 months ago. In 2019, Bridgewater went 5-0 as the Saints’ starter, filling in for Brees while he was sidelined. And, of course, he was one of the NFL’s brightest young stars before his devastating injury in Minnesota.

The Louisville alum started 28 games for the Vikings from 2014-15, averaging 3,075 yards, 14 touchdowns, and ten interceptions per season. Among the 30 QBs who attempted at least 500 passes in those two seasons, Bridgewater ranked 22nd in passer rating, 25th in adjusted net yards per attempt, and 29th in touchdown percentage.

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On 4/18/2021 at 9:43 AM, VTCrunkler said:

You’re not including Sheldon Williams who was a former top 5 pick. 
 

The Marvin Williams pick was unforgivable for me due to passing over Chris Paul. We needed a pg at the time. Not another wing who didn’t start a college game. And look how accomplished Paul is now and he is still producing. 

One of the worst picks ever.  It made no sense then.. smh

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35 minutes ago, RING OF HONOR said:

Do these mofos not know folk got to go to work......the time is too late....it needs to be 6:00.....

Or just start on Friday....

 

i feel like 8:00 eastern is an ok start time. problem is that they don't actually start picking until 8:15, then they give teams 10 minutes on the clock when they've had months to decide who they're picking. the first round taking 3 and a half hours is ridiculous.

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Being from Ireland I'll be fast asleep with work early tomorrow morning but if someone could tag me with the most extreme reactions, good and bad, to our pick I'd be forever grateful

I'll get mine in early!... 

Ffs, really?! But what's his name is still in the board!.. Troff'd!.. Somehow 

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35 minutes ago, JohnnyFranchise said:

i feel like 8:00 eastern is an ok start time. problem is that they don't actually start picking until 8:15, then they give teams 10 minutes on the clock when they've had months to decide who they're picking. the first round taking 3 and a half hours is ridiculous.

1st round doesn't take as long as it used to when everyone had 15 minutes on the clock.

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37 minutes ago, JohnnyFranchise said:

i feel like 8:00 eastern is an ok start time. problem is that they don't actually start picking until 8:15, then they give teams 10 minutes on the clock when they've had months to decide who they're picking. the first round taking 3 and a half hours is ridiculous.

Yeah... that's too much and too late imo..

 

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