ya_boi_j 69,070 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 hjerry, falconsfan84, mountain_jim3 and 21 others 24 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post MattM12 1,752 Posted March 19 Popular Post Share Posted March 19 Well that is impossible not to love as a fan, right? Get sacks, get paid. Everybody wins. Oh wait, it's TATF, I'll find out what's wrong with this deal shortly. kiwifalcon, Skin doc, Dunn-Vick-Duckett and 29 others 19 2 11 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ATLSlobberKnockers 8,762 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 So what's his hit this year? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
xSICKxWITHxITx 3,568 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Just now, ATLSlobberKnockers said: So what's his hit this year? Lol 6 million unless he gets his incentives. mtldirtybird 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WhenFalconsWin 27,990 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 I wish more contracts were incentive laden. Herr Doktor, Dirtier Bird, AUTiger7222 and 11 others 5 8 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ike barn87987 1,784 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 3 minutes ago, ATLSlobberKnockers said: So what's his hit this year? Vandy, Dirtybird3, hjerry and 4 others 5 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya_boi_j 69,070 Posted March 19 Author Share Posted March 19 6 minutes ago, MattM12 said: Well that is impossible not to love as a fan, right? Get sacks, get paid. Everybody wins. Oh wait, it's TATF, I'll find out what's wrong with this deal shortly. Incentive based deals are the best IMO. Especially for certain positions Herr Doktor, PokerSteve, Godzilla1985 and 6 others 5 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dodge_birds_fan 2,090 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 4 minutes ago, ya_boi_j said: Incentive based deals are the best IMO. Especially for certain positions I agree. I wonder why they don't do more deals like that. ya_boi_j and Domed Outter 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Herr Doktor 9,952 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 1 minute ago, dodge_birds_fan said: I agree. I wonder why they don't do more deals like that. Probably Union push back. PokerSteve, ATL Fan in the DMV, FalconJim and 2 others 2 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francis York Morgan 25,803 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Badass. Fowler's a real one for even agreeing. I hope he hits every mark, and if he does he'll be worth that 2022 number too. dawgsfan426, enginerd, wuskillzz and 17 others 20 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nuccah 171 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 17 minutes ago, dodge_birds_fan said: I agree. I wonder why they don't do more deals like that. Not much incentive to accept it, especially as a pass rusher. Only reason Fowler did is because he knew he was getting cut otherwise and probably would need to sign a prove it deal in FA. Smart move by the FO. HASHBROWN3, hjerry, Monolith2001 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CraigSmackDaddy 2,137 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Gotta give it to Fowler for agreeing to that deal. I figured we only shaved about 4 mil but if he doesn’t hit 11 sacks it’s gonna be more than that if I’m reading this right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya_boi_j 69,070 Posted March 19 Author Share Posted March 19 5 minutes ago, CraigSmackDaddy said: Gotta give it to Fowler for agreeing to that deal. I figured we only shaved about 4 mil but if he doesn’t hit 11 sacks it’s gonna be more than that if I’m reading this right. 35 minutes ago, ike barn87987 said: CraigSmackDaddy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OrthoPTSD 1,193 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 44 minutes ago, MattM12 said: Oh wait, it's TATF, I'll find out what's wrong with this deal shortly. HASHBROWN3 and jidady 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dodge_birds_fan 2,090 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 33 minutes ago, Herr Doktor said: Probably Union push back. Totally agree Herr Doktor 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boise Falcon Fan 4,153 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 55 minutes ago, MattM12 said: Well that is impossible not to love as a fan, right? Get sacks, get paid. Everybody wins. Oh wait, it's TATF, I'll find out what's wrong with this deal shortly. Everybody wins but Fowler. If I am reading it right, even if he hits the $4 mil. in incentives, he makes $4 mil. less. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PriMeTiiMe 8,537 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Boise Falcon Fan said: Everybody wins but Fowler. If I am reading it right, even if he hits the $4 mil. in incentives, he makes $4 mil. less. Correct. His contract is basically the same as Reddick just got for this year except Fowler has an additional 2m more in incentives. Edited March 19 by PriMeTiiMe Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gibson's Finest 807 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 How much are we currently under the cap?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconFanSince1969 16,164 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 17 minutes ago, Boise Falcon Fan said: Everybody wins but Fowler. If I am reading it right, even if he hits the $4 mil. in incentives, he makes $4 mil. less. Fowler wins in the sense that he gets to keep his job and that contract he signed. He never would have seen that on the open market and he knows it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CraigSmackDaddy 2,137 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 36 minutes ago, ya_boi_j said: Ok that makes more sense. The first post sounded like he took a much bigger pay cut. ya_boi_j 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Monolith2001 5,147 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 59 minutes ago, nuccah said: Not much incentive to accept it, especially as a pass rusher. Only reason Fowler did is because he knew he was getting cut otherwise and probably would need to sign a prove it deal in FA. Smart move by the FO. Indeed. Depressed market, bad film and his career has been more of last year than 2019. No doubt he was not in a good negotiation spot but still give him credit for not letting his ego overpower his wallet and betting on himself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ADAMSVILLE GYM 5,511 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 1 hour ago, ya_boi_j said: pren226 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PointSwayzee 902 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Not a huge Fowler guy, but how could anyone criticize this? Literally the only one that did anything that personally effects himself. Now back it up and make your $$ back😁. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blutarski 271 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 1 hour ago, dodge_birds_fan said: I agree. I wonder why they don't do more deals like that. Several factors. First, the player and player union want as much guaranteed money as possible, and the incentive deals typically don't offer long term (3+years) guarantees. Second, it's a budgeting issue with the Cap, and that is important to the teams. If the team has incentive laden deals predominantly in force, you have scenarios where players hit those incentives and hit's the cap, and we have to cut players to get under for a league year. Incentives are good for smaller amounts, but you don't want high level FA's signing incentive laden deals, as it makes cap management extremely difficult. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
high impact 2,384 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 26 minutes ago, Gibson's Finest said: How much are we currently under the cap?? Well looks like $1.35. It is changing as deals are redone. One site has cap space at $523,289 Over the cap has cap space at $2,272,796. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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