ya_boi_j Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 EastCoastFalcon902, JDaveG, CADirtyBird and 21 others 24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MattM12 Posted March 19 Popular Post Share Posted March 19 Well that is impossible not to love as a fan, right? Get sacks, get paid. Everybody wins. Oh wait, it's TATF, I'll find out what's wrong with this deal shortly. 804_Falconfan, Ovie_Lover, A Pimp Named Slickback™ and 29 others 19 2 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLSlobberKnockers Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 So what's his hit this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xSICKxWITHxITx Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Just now, ATLSlobberKnockers said: So what's his hit this year? Lol 6 million unless he gets his incentives. mtldirtybird 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhenFalconsWin Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 I wish more contracts were incentive laden. PapaJoe, Leon Troutsky, Hard2BaBirdWachr and 11 others 5 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ike barn87987 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 3 minutes ago, ATLSlobberKnockers said: So what's his hit this year? Vandy, mountain_jim3, Dirtybird3 and 4 others 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ya_boi_j Posted March 19 Author Share Posted March 19 6 minutes ago, MattM12 said: Well that is impossible not to love as a fan, right? Get sacks, get paid. Everybody wins. Oh wait, it's TATF, I'll find out what's wrong with this deal shortly. Incentive based deals are the best IMO. Especially for certain positions ATL Fan in the DMV, Geneaut, Peteshweddy and 6 others 5 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodge_birds_fan Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 4 minutes ago, ya_boi_j said: Incentive based deals are the best IMO. Especially for certain positions I agree. I wonder why they don't do more deals like that. Domed Outter and ya_boi_j 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Doktor Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 1 minute ago, dodge_birds_fan said: I agree. I wonder why they don't do more deals like that. Probably Union push back. ShmevinShmarris, FalconJim, ATL Fan in the DMV and 2 others 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis York Morgan Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Badass. Fowler's a real one for even agreeing. I hope he hits every mark, and if he does he'll be worth that 2022 number too. Sportsman2593, gazoo, Artys Arryn and 17 others 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuccah Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 17 minutes ago, dodge_birds_fan said: I agree. I wonder why they don't do more deals like that. Not much incentive to accept it, especially as a pass rusher. Only reason Fowler did is because he knew he was getting cut otherwise and probably would need to sign a prove it deal in FA. Smart move by the FO. ya_boi_j, Sportsman2593, hjerry and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigSmackDaddy Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Gotta give it to Fowler for agreeing to that deal. I figured we only shaved about 4 mil but if he doesn’t hit 11 sacks it’s gonna be more than that if I’m reading this right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ya_boi_j Posted March 19 Author Share Posted March 19 5 minutes ago, CraigSmackDaddy said: Gotta give it to Fowler for agreeing to that deal. I figured we only shaved about 4 mil but if he doesn’t hit 11 sacks it’s gonna be more than that if I’m reading this right. 35 minutes ago, ike barn87987 said: CraigSmackDaddy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrthoPTSD Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 44 minutes ago, MattM12 said: Oh wait, it's TATF, I'll find out what's wrong with this deal shortly. jidady and HASHBROWN3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodge_birds_fan Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 33 minutes ago, Herr Doktor said: Probably Union push back. Totally agree Herr Doktor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boise Falcon Fan Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 55 minutes ago, MattM12 said: Well that is impossible not to love as a fan, right? Get sacks, get paid. Everybody wins. Oh wait, it's TATF, I'll find out what's wrong with this deal shortly. Everybody wins but Fowler. If I am reading it right, even if he hits the $4 mil. in incentives, he makes $4 mil. less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PriMeTiiMe Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Boise Falcon Fan said: Everybody wins but Fowler. If I am reading it right, even if he hits the $4 mil. in incentives, he makes $4 mil. less. Correct. His contract is basically the same as Reddick just got for this year except Fowler has an additional 2m more in incentives. Edited March 19 by PriMeTiiMe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson's Finest Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 How much are we currently under the cap?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 17 minutes ago, Boise Falcon Fan said: Everybody wins but Fowler. If I am reading it right, even if he hits the $4 mil. in incentives, he makes $4 mil. less. Fowler wins in the sense that he gets to keep his job and that contract he signed. He never would have seen that on the open market and he knows it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigSmackDaddy Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 36 minutes ago, ya_boi_j said: Ok that makes more sense. The first post sounded like he took a much bigger pay cut. ya_boi_j 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monolith2001 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 59 minutes ago, nuccah said: Not much incentive to accept it, especially as a pass rusher. Only reason Fowler did is because he knew he was getting cut otherwise and probably would need to sign a prove it deal in FA. Smart move by the FO. Indeed. Depressed market, bad film and his career has been more of last year than 2019. No doubt he was not in a good negotiation spot but still give him credit for not letting his ego overpower his wallet and betting on himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAMSVILLE GYM Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 1 hour ago, ya_boi_j said: pren226 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PointSwayzee Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Not a huge Fowler guy, but how could anyone criticize this? Literally the only one that did anything that personally effects himself. Now back it up and make your $$ back😁. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blutarski Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 1 hour ago, dodge_birds_fan said: I agree. I wonder why they don't do more deals like that. Several factors. First, the player and player union want as much guaranteed money as possible, and the incentive deals typically don't offer long term (3+years) guarantees. Second, it's a budgeting issue with the Cap, and that is important to the teams. If the team has incentive laden deals predominantly in force, you have scenarios where players hit those incentives and hit's the cap, and we have to cut players to get under for a league year. Incentives are good for smaller amounts, but you don't want high level FA's signing incentive laden deals, as it makes cap management extremely difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high impact Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 26 minutes ago, Gibson's Finest said: How much are we currently under the cap?? Well looks like $1.35. It is changing as deals are redone. One site has cap space at $523,289 Over the cap has cap space at $2,272,796. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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