Arkridge Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 I know he's got a lot of fans around here (myself included). I think he overtakes Zach Wilson as QB2 if he runs in the 4.3's. Many think QB isn't at play for ATL after Ryan's contract was restructured. I saw it as more of an inevitable and think QB will still be firmly in play at 4. PokerSteve, Dirtier Bird, Bunchy Carter and 8 others 6 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lornoth Posted March 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 19, 2021 If anyone moves a QB up their rankings because of a 40 time they're evaluating the wrong position. octoslash, Sportsman2593, tl;dr and 46 others 36 10 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Yall got to let it go. That restructure killed any shot of qb at 4. The new regime has 3 year contracts. They aren't looking at Atlantas future past that. Why would they take a qb that might not even see the field before they're fired? papachaz, ATLSlobberKnockers, Skin doc and 10 others 9 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFranchise Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Just now, Lornoth said: If anyone moves a QB up their rankings because of a 40 time they're evaluating the wrong position. beat me to it Geneaut, Herr Doktor and tl;dr 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNFalcon1 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Good for him. I'm more interested on whether he can run any offense or one would need to be created just for his skill set. BamaBirdLady and JohnnyFranchise 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkridge Posted March 19, 2021 Author Share Posted March 19, 2021 Just now, Lornoth said: If anyone moves a QB up their rankings because of a 40 time they're evaluating the wrong position. If Wilson and Fields are neck and neck on some boards, I think this sort of speed (in an NFL landscape that is beginning to trend more toward dual-threat QBs) can be the type of thing that tips the scales in a sense supercollider and PokerSteve 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 If he runs a 4.3 though I'm definitely moving him up my fantasy rankings so theres that. CaliFalcons, papachaz, RING OF HONOR and 2 others 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFranchise Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 minute ago, TNFalcon1 said: Good for him. I'm more interested on whether he can run any offense or one would need to be created just for his skill set. whether or not he can run an offense is irrelevant, if he can run a 4.3 we'd be stupid not to take him 🤪 Dirtier Bird, PapaJoe, Herr Doktor and 5 others 4 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrthoPTSD Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Bet a wooden nickel he does not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFranchise Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Arkridge said: If Wilson and Fields are neck and neck on some boards, I think this sort of speed (in an NFL landscape that is beginning to trend more toward dual-threat QBs) can be the type of thing that tips the scales in a sense if wilson and fields are neck and neck on some boards then whoever put those boards together needs to give their heads a shake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkridge Posted March 19, 2021 Author Share Posted March 19, 2021 Just now, JohnnyFranchise said: if wilson and fields are neck and neck on some boards then whoever put those boards together needs to give their heads a shake Who do you prefer? I think they'll both be successful in the NFL fwiw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RING OF HONOR Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, Lornoth said: If anyone moves a QB up their rankings because of a 40 time they're evaluating the wrong position. My man JohnnyFranchise, PapaJoe, papachaz and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFranchise Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Arkridge said: Who do you prefer? I think they'll both be successful in the NFL fwiw wilson. and i think they're both late-1st to second round calibre qbs, fwiw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RYNE Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 But he didn’t did he? Wasn’t it a 4.4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rings Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 17 minutes ago, Lornoth said: If anyone moves a QB up their rankings because of a 40 time they're evaluating the wrong position. This. Really any position for that matter. There is a threshold you want certain positions to meet the minimum on, but rarely is the fastest WR/RB very good. There are much more important things to look at than 40. The 40 is a fan favorite as it’s just one of the most fun to watch and compare at the combine, but scouts and GMs aren’t changing their big board unless someone absolutely destroyed it or failed miserably, and even then it’s minimal, that speed normally shows on tape and is part of where they are ranked where they are already. Biggest thing if they are caught off guard by a 40 time they will go back and watch more tape to see if it matches and determine which they think is correct, normally it’s the tape as it’s a larger sample size. JDaveG, JohnnyFranchise and Herr Doktor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFranchise Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, Rings said: This. Really any position for that matter. There is a threshold you want certain positions to meet the minimum on, but rarely is the fastest WR/RB very good. There are much more important things to look at than 40. The 40 is a fan favorite as it’s just one of the most fun to watch and compare at the combine, but scouts and GMs aren’t changing their big board unless someone absolutely destroyed it or failed miserably, and even then it’s minimal, that speed normally shows on tape and is part of where they are ranked where they are already. Biggest thing if they are caught off guard by a 40 time they will go back and watch more tape to see if it matches and determine which they think is correct, normally it’s the tape as it’s a larger sample size. especially when they're running a straight line in their underwear. like, there's a bunch of qb's that have run faster 40's than lamar jackson but i dare someone to try telling me that he's not the fastest qb in the league, by far. Skin doc and Rings 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rings Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, JohnnyFranchise said: especially when they're running a straight line in their underwear. like, there's a bunch of qb's that have run faster 40's than lamar jackson but i dare someone to try telling me that he's not the fastest qb in the league, by far. 10 yard split matters more than 40. How many QBs ran for 40 yards on one play last year during a game? I’d be willing to bet 10-15 total for the season. So less than 0.03% of the total plays ran last year a QBs 40 time was actually utilized. Sounds like a deal breaker to me. JohnnyFranchise 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrue7 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Cool.. where’s your second read? RING OF HONOR, TNFalcon1, JohnnyFranchise and 7 others 5 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFranchise Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 22 minutes ago, TheTrue7 said: Cool.. where’s your second read? TheTrue7, PapaJoe, RING OF HONOR and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RING OF HONOR Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 9 minutes ago, JohnnyFranchise said: 5 drinks in.....I thought that was Don Lemon at first..😂 JohnnyFranchise 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jidady Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 If I'm a scout, I'm genuinely alarmed that this is a priority for him. PapaJoe and CrimsonFalcon 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tl;dr Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Arkridge said: If Wilson and Fields are neck and neck on some boards, I think this sort of speed (in an NFL landscape that is beginning to trend more toward dual-threat QBs) can be the type of thing that tips the scales in a sense It may be trending that way, but the best QBs in the league are still good passers. Look at Mahomes and Watson. Both are dual threats, but can throw it well too. Same with Allen and Kyler. They can both throw it well too. Kyler was the only one of those guys to not finish in the top 5 of QB rating last year, but that's more of a gut feeling than anything. Really think he's a future MVP in the league. See other vets like RW3 that are dual threats and they can run too. I'm not sold on Fields being able to throw it as well as some of those guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
putnam6 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, jidady said: If I'm a scout, I'm genuinely alarmed that this is a priority for him. Accentuate the positives... on the right team and with the right offense Fields will be good if not great, it's just not gonna be Atlanta I don't think PapaJoe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thanat0s Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 I have absolutely no dog in that QB hunt, but it’s always been totally moronic that people suddenly pushed Wilson ahead of Fields. There is no rational reason for it. Having said that, teams want to know you can stand in the pocket and complete passes, not whether you can scramble moderately better than another QB. Hashbrown3, Knight of God and JDaveG 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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