CMarinoNFL Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Sounds like ATL wants immediate cap space. Wonder if they're planning on making a strong multi-year deal for Andrews. Dirtier Bird, Herr Doktor, NashvilleFalcon01 and 3 others 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Boise Falcon Fan Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 18 minutes ago, CMarinoNFL said: Sounds like ATL wants immediate cap space. Wonder if they're planning on making a strong multi-year deal for Andrews. I hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red falcon Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Progress is being made. Refried Beans 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Yea i saw this coming..... Im glad it went down like this because i think Fowler is going to have a good season in Pees D Atl Falcon, quickzero, Francis York Morgan and 5 others 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someday soon Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 One of many needed moves after yesterdays debacle. Atl Falcon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CADirtyBird Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Just now, Someday soon said: One of many needed moves after yesterdays debacle. What exactly was a debacle yesterday? Herr Doktor, The Great American, Sportsman2593 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtybirds233 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Someday soon said: One of many needed moves after yesterdays debacle. With out yesterday's 'debacle', we would be sitting at $9M over the cap Edited March 17, 2021 by dirtybirds233 Hashbrown3, arrogantBEAST, Run 'n' Shoot and 6 others 5 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monolith2001 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 I am not one to dunk on Dante but I am glad he took a hit as what he put on film with us last season (hurt or not) was actually worse than the dude we moved on from after 3 years of meh and the the one who stayed hurt and didn't seem to want to be here. I still think Dante has juice and hopefully a healthy body and a regime that I think will play to his strengths will result in us having a really nice core of LBs (he ain't a DE in spite of his size). A 3-4 with Fowler and Walker on the edges, Debo in cover and Foye able to both cover and get through trash, I like the potential. And yes I low-key said Foye is a more complete LB than Debo (love him but he has limitations). JDaveG, Herr Doktor, mtldirtybird and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrogantBEAST Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Fowler! Good team spirit. He pulled a page out of Tom Brady book. Respect. Hashbrown3, KCFalcon22, Monolith2001 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someday soon Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, CADirtyBird said: What exactly was a debacle yesterday? 4 minutes ago, dirtybirds233 said: With out yesterday's 'debacle', we would be sitting at $9M over the cap I think Ryan is the best QB in Falcons history period. Saying that I wouldn't of restructured him. I don't think with or without Ryan we are a contender. As far as the cap, I would of traded Jarrett to make the cap room. Yes I still support Ryan. Dirtier Bird and Atl Falcon 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monolith2001 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, dirtybirds233 said: With out yesterday's 'debacle', we would be sitting at $9M over the cap You can make an argument that we could have restructured some other guys. You can make an argument that MR2 is not exciting and that there are better QBs out there. I became a Falcon fan when Vick came in and I really want a mobile QB. That all said, this team can win with MR2. I don't love the restructure but it was an easy choice and MR2 will retire an Atlanta Falcon. I'm ok with it unless Matt falls off a cliff. Oops: Meant to quote @Someday soon Edited March 17, 2021 by Monolith2001 FalconJim, Mr. Captain Falcon, Herr Doktor and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Summerhill Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Good move for both parties. Fowler has already made a lot of money in his career. If he got cut, he would be looking at vet minimum type money. He's on a team that has a huge need at the position he plays. He's not going to find many other teams that can give him that amount of playing time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcons007 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, arrogantBEAST said: Fowler! Good team spirit. He pulled a page out of Tom Brady book. Respect. TB didn’t really take a pay cut though. Brady and Brees kicked the can down the road by converting salary in to guaranteed bonuses. Fowler is taking a pay cut. Hashbrown3, arrogantBEAST, Rings and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williamb Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 46 minutes ago, Someday soon said: I think Ryan is the best QB in Falcons history period. Saying that I wouldn't of restructured him. I don't think with or without Ryan we are a contender. As far as the cap, I would of traded Jarrett to make the cap room. Yes I still support Ryan. Trade the best dl on the whole team in a defense weak draft year. You are really going out of your way to look clueless. Yesterday was not a debaucle. It was an extremely smart move to give the team more options. Ryan was not going anywhere for the next 2 yrs. What changed about that yesterday? Next year they will renegotiate with him again with a more scrupulous eye for the future, and with a higher cap ( probably 210-215mil). I really don't get you guys who want to b**** and complain about every move. GET RID OF GRADY....SHEEEESH! Hashbrown3, JohnnyFranchise and JDaveG 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAMSVILLE GYM Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Someday soon said: As far as the cap, I would of traded Jarrett to make the cap room. CADirtyBird, Flyin' In DC, Herr Doktor and 10 others 3 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someday soon Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, Williamb said: Trade the best dl on the whole team in a defense weak draft year. You are really going out of your way to look clueless. Yesterday was not a debaucle. It was an extremely smart move to give the team more options. Ryan was not going anywhere for the next 2 yrs. What changed about that yesterday? Next year they will renegotiate with him again with a more scrupulous eye for the future, and with a higher cap ( probably 210-215mil). I really don't get you guys who want to b**** and complain about every move. GET RID OF GRADY....SHEEEESH! Looks like your the one that's b***** and complaining because someone has a different opinion of how to build the team into a Super Bowl contender. How many WAR would you say Grady ( we will get high draft picks for him) nets you compared to a McNeil or Barnwell? Now justifying the 21 mil in 2021 and 24 mil in 2022 for a 4 sack DT is another thing. I'm trying to look past the tip of my nose to see what the team can be in 2022 and beyond. Atl Falcon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Doktor Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Pay cut? Or is it a restructure? I cannot imagine anyone actually accepting less. I have to admit I am pig ignorant to the ways of NFL contracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williamb Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 11 minutes ago, Someday soon said: Looks like your the one that's b***** and complaining because someone has a different opinion of how to build the team into a Super Bowl contender. How many WAR would you say Grady ( we will get high draft picks for him) nets you compared to a McNeil or Barnwell? Now justifying the 21 mil in 2021 and 24 mil in 2022 for a 4 sack DT is another thing. I'm trying to look past the tip of my nose to see what the team can be in 2022 and beyond. 1. You don't pay a dt for his sack production. 2. He's the 2nd best dt in the league. 3. You build a sb team by adding talent around that elite core player. 4. I only b**** and complain when people find something wrong with every d***** move the team makes. 5. In your opinions ( looking past the end of your nose), it's going to make the team which suffered 8 4th quarter losses last year better in '22 by gutting the team of its core and getting rookies at every position? The pessimism gets tiring. I'm not willing to give up this year or the next or the next. We have what I believe is a good front office and coaching staff who I believe know better than you or I how to build a team for now, '22, and beyond. Now as far as your opinions, they're just like mine (Another body part). CADirtyBird, JohnnyFranchise, ATLskinjob and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snafu Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 21 minutes ago, Herr Doktor said: Pay cut? Or is it a restructure? I cannot imagine anyone actually accepting less. I have to admit I am pig ignorant to the ways of NFL contracts. I dunno either. I'd guess it's because his market value sunk after last year. He knew if he got cut, he may not even make as much as what he's now agreed to take. Herr Doktor and Boise Falcon Fan 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Run 'n' Shoot Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Certainly means more guaranteed money overall so it works out better for all parties. JohnnyFranchise and Dr Long Shot 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLskinjob Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 52 minutes ago, Someday soon said: Looks like your the one that's b***** and complaining because someone has a different opinion of how to build the team into a Super Bowl contender. How many WAR would you say Grady ( we will get high draft picks for him) nets you compared to a McNeil or Barnwell? Now justifying the 21 mil in 2021 and 24 mil in 2022 for a 4 sack DT is another thing. I'm trying to look past the tip of my nose to see what the team can be in 2022 and beyond. Reducing Grady to a "4 sack" DT is just so purposefully narrow-minded and just ignorant. Kinda makes everything else you say not worth listening to. I just cannot even fathom what you have to criticize Grady about. Often times he was the only player on the D line that looked like he gave a **** last year. Do you even watch the games? It takes like one defensive drive watching Grady to know that we would be so screwed without him. Of all the really stupid off-season takes I've seen so far this year, this one is by far the dumbest. Williamb and JohnnyFranchise 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramonezy Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 I like TF's style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Long Shot Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Someday soon said: I think Ryan is the best QB in Falcons history period. Saying that I wouldn't of restructured him. I don't think with or without Ryan we are a contender. As far as the cap, I would of traded Jarrett to make the cap room. Yes I still support Ryan. We could not trade or cut him, and we would be over the cap without restructuring him. So what exactly would you have proposed we do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someday soon Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 55 minutes ago, ATLskinjob said: Reducing Grady to a "4 sack" DT is just so purposefully narrow-minded and just ignorant. Kinda makes everything else you say not worth listening to. I just cannot even fathom what you have to criticize Grady about. Often times he was the only player on the D line that looked like he gave a **** last year. Do you even watch the games? It takes like one defensive drive watching Grady to know that we would be so screwed without him. Of all the really stupid off-season takes I've seen so far this year, this one is by far the dumbest. Do you really have the need to throw insults? First thing Grady is a very good player. When Fowler lined up on the same line as Donald, he produced. Floyd took Fowlers spot for Rams in 2020 and he produced. Fowler not so much last year but we know he was injured so hopefully he bounces back. Do you understand that money is spongeable (money not spent somewhere can be spent somewhere else). Say you trade Jarrett for a Late 1 rounder plus extra picks. With that pick say you draft Daviyon Nixon to take Gradys spot for the next five years. So you downgraded the DT position. You now have an extra $20 mil/yr to improve the rest of your team. Twenty million buys some decent safety play for sure doesn't it? So if I had my choice I would take Daviyon Nixon and two good safeties. Dirtier Bird 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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