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This is from the Falcoholic website.  I take -NO CREDIT- for the contents therein.   The Falcoholic is a -fantastic- place to go for articles concerning the Atlanta Falcons.

https://www.thefalcoholic.com/2021/3/16/22333003/falcons-must-decide-dante-fowlers-future-by-march-21st-free-agency-but-is-he-a-bust

BY:  Matthew Chambers

The final years of the Dan Quinn and Thomas Dimitroff regime were full of moves fans wish they could get back. Hiring Dirk Koetter. Whatever that was they tried to do to fix the offensive line. Not firing Dirk Koetter. Whatever that was they tried to do to fix the defensive line. Todd Gurley.

The most regrettable of those decisions, perhaps outside of not trading Vic Beasley or rescinding Vic Beasley’s fifth-year option, may be the Dante Fowler deal. Maybe not trading Takkarist McKinley. Or signing every free agency guard the team signed in the last decade. The more you dive into these issues the more you understand why those decision makers were fired.

But back to Fowler. In 2020, the Falcons were shockingly short on cap space with several contracts ballooning in upcoming years. The smart assumption was the Falcons would sit back in free agency to not hamstring the team in future years. We know what they say about assumptions, particularly when you have a regime in place desperate to kickstart some wins.

Fowler, coming off a 3.0 sack season, has a cap hit that balloons from $6.7 million in 2020 to over $18.5 million in 2021. Fowler dealt with COVID, injury, and a few different defensive coordinators, so there is a chance he could return to form in 2021. Yet, Fowler never looked like an elite or even average talent short of only a very, very limited number of snaps. It made Beasley look like an impact player in comparison.

Now the new staff has no allegiance to Fowler. Terry Fontenot did not draft him and did not sign him. Arthur Smith has no connection to Fowler. They can look, and have to look, purely at his performance and determine if his contract is worth keeping, with an eye on determining whether the Fowler of 2019 is realer than the Fowler of 2020. If they decide he is not, they can cut him and designate him as a post-June 1st cut and free up $7.875 million in cap space.

That is a massive sum for a team with so few places to find cap space. Seriously, we have looked. The Falcons can restructure or extend four players, being Matt Ryan, Julio Jones, Grady Jarrett, and Deion Jones. Tyeler Davison is one player the Falcons could cut, restructure, or extend. The last player is Fowler. The remainder are on their rookie deals.

That’s it.

Fowler’s potential cap savings could cover the entire rookie class and provide some emergency funds for in-season injuries. The new staff would almost certainly trade 8 to 10 of their own players for Fowler.

The problem is they have a deadline. Dimitroff sometimes offset the date where base salaries guaranteed to a few days after the start of the league year. Deion Jones, a potential but extremely unlikely cut, has his $8.2 million base salary guarantee on the fifth day of the league year. The Falcons could find $8.68 by moving on from Jones as a post-June 1st cut that splits his cap hit across 2021 and 2022, however, he has been, at times, a Pro Bowl talent. This extended deadline gives the team a chance to look at other options in free agency. If they like a replacement, they can cut that veteran and enjoy the cap savings.

Fowler has the same deadline. Instead of waiting until preseason to decide if they want or don’t want Fowler, Fontenot and Smith need to decide on Fowler’s future with the team by March 21st at 4pm EST. They have to make that decision in the next few days or stick with Fowler for another year.

If Fowler repeats his 2020, the Falcons could do the same or better for far less. However, Fowler should be free from COVID, may be healthy, and should have a better chance at playing more 3-4 alignments under Dan Pees.

Ultimately, Fowler could be worth the risk. He was a top draft pick with double-digit sacks in 2019. Pees could believe he could get more out of Fowler than Quinn. We will know what they think about Fowler by Sunday.

 

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they can cut him and designate him as a post-June 1st cut and free up $7.875 million in cap space. No brainer, we can find a rook who can get 3 sacks or a low end FA. 

Honestly, despite his lack of approval from fans last season, there's no reason to get rid of him. He says he was playing injured. I'll never hold performances from an injured player against them. Wou

He will be here next season.  Really, unless someone sends us a cannot pass up trade, he stays.

13 minutes ago, egoprime II said:

This is from the Falcoholic website.  I take -NO CREDIT- for the contents therein.   The Falcoholic is a -fantastic- place to go for articles concerning the Atlanta Falcons.

https://www.thefalcoholic.com/2021/3/16/22333003/falcons-must-decide-dante-fowlers-future-by-march-21st-free-agency-but-is-he-a-bust

BY:  Matthew Chambers

The final years of the Dan Quinn and Thomas Dimitroff regime were full of moves fans wish they could get back. Hiring Dirk Koetter. Whatever that was they tried to do to fix the offensive line. Not firing Dirk Koetter. Whatever that was they tried to do to fix the defensive line. Todd Gurley.

The most regrettable of those decisions, perhaps outside of not trading Vic Beasley or rescinding Vic Beasley’s fifth-year option, may be the Dante Fowler deal. Maybe not trading Takkarist McKinley. Or signing every free agency guard the team signed in the last decade. The more you dive into these issues the more you understand why those decision makers were fired.

But back to Fowler. In 2020, the Falcons were shockingly short on cap space with several contracts ballooning in upcoming years. The smart assumption was the Falcons would sit back in free agency to not hamstring the team in future years. We know what they say about assumptions, particularly when you have a regime in place desperate to kickstart some wins.

Fowler, coming off a 3.0 sack season, has a cap hit that balloons from $6.7 million in 2020 to over $18.5 million in 2021. Fowler dealt with COVID, injury, and a few different defensive coordinators, so there is a chance he could return to form in 2021. Yet, Fowler never looked like an elite or even average talent short of only a very, very limited number of snaps. It made Beasley look like an impact player in comparison.

Now the new staff has no allegiance to Fowler. Terry Fontenot did not draft him and did not sign him. Arthur Smith has no connection to Fowler. They can look, and have to look, purely at his performance and determine if his contract is worth keeping, with an eye on determining whether the Fowler of 2019 is realer than the Fowler of 2020. If they decide he is not, they can cut him and designate him as a post-June 1st cut and free up $7.875 million in cap space.

That is a massive sum for a team with so few places to find cap space. Seriously, we have looked. The Falcons can restructure or extend four players, being Matt Ryan, Julio Jones, Grady Jarrett, and Deion Jones. Tyeler Davison is one player the Falcons could cut, restructure, or extend. The last player is Fowler. The remainder are on their rookie deals.

That’s it.

Fowler’s potential cap savings could cover the entire rookie class and provide some emergency funds for in-season injuries. The new staff would almost certainly trade 8 to 10 of their own players for Fowler.

The problem is they have a deadline. Dimitroff sometimes offset the date where base salaries guaranteed to a few days after the start of the league year. Deion Jones, a potential but extremely unlikely cut, has his $8.2 million base salary guarantee on the fifth day of the league year. The Falcons could find $8.68 by moving on from Jones as a post-June 1st cut that splits his cap hit across 2021 and 2022, however, he has been, at times, a Pro Bowl talent. This extended deadline gives the team a chance to look at other options in free agency. If they like a replacement, they can cut that veteran and enjoy the cap savings.

Fowler has the same deadline. Instead of waiting until preseason to decide if they want or don’t want Fowler, Fontenot and Smith need to decide on Fowler’s future with the team by March 21st at 4pm EST. They have to make that decision in the next few days or stick with Fowler for another year.

If Fowler repeats his 2020, the Falcons could do the same or better for far less. However, Fowler should be free from COVID, may be healthy, and should have a better chance at playing more 3-4 alignments under Dan Pees.

Ultimately, Fowler could be worth the risk. He was a top draft pick with double-digit sacks in 2019. Pees could believe he could get more out of Fowler than Quinn. We will know what they think about Fowler by Sunday.

 

no that would be dumb why would we create another hole on the roster

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Honestly, despite his lack of approval from fans last season, there's no reason to get rid of him. He says he was playing injured. I'll never hold performances from an injured player against them. Would never want anyone knowingly playing injured but that's something we have no control over. 

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1 minute ago, ya_boi_j said:

Honestly, despite his lack of approval from fans last season, there's no reason to get rid of him. He says he was playing injured. I'll never hold performances from an injured player against them. Would never want anyone knowingly playing injured but that's something we have no control over. 

We used to say this about Takk too. Fowler is also oft-injured, I would cut him post June 1st just for the cap savings alone.  Also, one of his few healthy years, he was rewarded for Aaron Donald playing next to him.  I think with the cap savings, we can find a suitable replacement for Fowler.

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If you think he's a 12 sack guy you keep him.

If you think he's an 7 sack guy, you consider keeping him.

If you think he's a 3 sack guy, you obviously drop him.


I have zero idea what he is.  My guess is sort of a 5-8 sack guy.

I never liked our "stars and scrubs" team building mentality, but it's hit its peak now.  I like D Jones, but he's probably not enough better than a rookie linebacker to make as much more as he does.  I like J Jones a ton but he's only worth his money if he stays injury free.  And with rookie WRs hitting the ground running so quickly now, could you get production that wasn't as good, but 75% as good from 2 early rookies.

Really hard to pay 6-8 guys top money unless they're pro bowl every year type guys.  The only one I fear the team falling apart without is Ryan simply because he's the QB and he's very steady and his price until this year has been manageable.  Jarrett has also performed.  But in general, those deals are tough to live up to.

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17 minutes ago, ya_boi_j said:

Honestly, despite his lack of approval from fans last season, there's no reason to get rid of him. He says he was playing injured. I'll never hold performances from an injured player against them. Would never want anyone knowingly playing injured but that's something we have no control over. 

 

You just wasting your time......

 

Lol

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28 minutes ago, WhenFalconsWin said:

they can cut him and designate him as a post-June 1st cut and free up $7.875 million in cap space.

No brainer, we can find a rook who can get 3 sacks or a low end FA. 

How many of our Rooks have had 3 sacks? Or low end FA? In their first year.... Gotta go back some time. 

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The only things I can see us doing is keeping him maybe with a restructure, or trading him before or after 1 Jun. I can't see cutting him at any time with the incurred dead money, and we'd have to replace him with at least JAG, negating the minimal savings recouped by cutting him.

Jags could probably use him.

 

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44 minutes ago, ya_boi_j said:

Honestly, despite his lack of approval from fans last season, there's no reason to get rid of him. He says he was playing injured. I'll never hold performances from an injured player against them. Would never want anyone knowingly playing injured but that's something we have no control over. 

I take that comment with a grain of salt, if it was a serious injury he shouldn't have been on the field. It's a physical game so many guys are out there playing banged up to some degree, Julio's a prime example of this. Fowler's been in the league for 5 seasons now and the one year he's really brought it on the field happens to be when he had a future HOFer and other solid d-lineman playing with him. 

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I take that comment with a grain of salt, if it was a serious injury he shouldn't have been on the field. It's a physical game so many guys are out there playing banged up to some degree, Julio's a prime example of this. Fowler's been in the league for 5 seasons now and the one year he's really brought it on the field happens to be when he had a future HOFer and other solid d-lineman playing with him. 

You can take it however you choose to take it. I tend to take guys at their words until proven otherwise. 

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