athell 32,624 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 2 minutes ago, hjerry said: So, having only read the first post, and, without reading through this whole thread, is it filled with posts from those who want us to trade Ryan, trying to argue that this guy (who I've never heard of till today) is legitimate? No. it's been a fun thread with some funny moments. 10/10 would read again. Atl Falcon and Geneaut 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandtrap 2,376 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 2 hours ago, PokerSteve said: I'm not pushing a trade to New England, and definitely not a Matt hater. I'd still like to see him win a ring somewhere before he hangs it up. I agree but would prefer that somewhere be here. Skin doc, Malachore and PokerSteve 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ovie_Lover 29,832 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 8 minutes ago, athell said: So in this line of thinking there would be a deal on the table with another team or teams, pending pick 4, and if the right guy falls to 4 they would execute the trade? Or if the guy isn't there, the deal on the table is pulled? That’s what I imagine. Say they feel Fields is the guy and he can start now and we take him if we wanna trade Ryan we’d do it then or keep him to let Fields learn. But if Fields is the guy and he goes before our pick and we just trade back we’d never know he was the guy they wanted. But we wouldn’t trade Ryan before the draft because then teams would be calling #2 and #3 trying to jump us obviously going QB. athell, VTCrunkler, PokerSteve and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atl Falcon 4,153 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 2 hours ago, falcons007 said: Ryan should feel insulted if no teams are calling around for a trade. And TF should feel insulted IF some of the narrow minded know it alls think he shouldn’t consider trading Ryan if the price is right and it’s his plan to draft a QB for the future at 4. Just saying😎 Herr Doktor and tbhawksfan 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JD dirtybird21 22,955 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 19 minutes ago, Ovie_Lover said: They won’t trade him until they secure the guy they want For sure. But even then, trade Ryan if you get Fields. I’d rather the top 5 pick play Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HotLantaFalcon 943 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Not sure about Chi but I'm sure Kraft could pay for our cap hit Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Duff_Man 12,091 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 2 hours ago, kiwifalcon said: See this is it if they have it in there mind they want to move Ryan.#4 pick starts he doesn’t sit.You learn under fire not getting splinters on the bench. Been working for years for the Bengals, Browns and Jets. Herr Doktor and AUTiger7222 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
athell 32,624 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 4 minutes ago, Ovie_Lover said: That’s what I imagine. Say they feel Fields is the guy and he can start now and we take him if we wanna trade Ryan we’d do it then or keep him to let Fields learn. But if Fields is the guy and he goes before our pick and we just trade back we’d never know he was the guy they wanted. But we wouldn’t trade Ryan before the draft because then teams would be calling #2 and #3 trying to jump us obviously going QB. Yeah I gotchu. To @JD dirtybird21's point though, if we pick a QB in top 5, I'd rather Matt not be on roster next year. I get the whole "mentor" thing but that's not Matt's job and I'd rather collect the picks, eat the dead money and move forward with QB4. PokerSteve, JD dirtybird21 and AUTiger7222 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JD dirtybird21 22,955 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 4 minutes ago, athell said: Yeah I gotchu. To @JD dirtybird21's point though, if we pick a QB in top 5, I'd rather Matt not be on roster next year. I get the whole "mentor" thing but that's not Matt's job and I'd rather collect the picks, eat the dead money and move forward with QB4. Exactly, if we are going rookie, might as well take advantage of the cheap rookie contract as much as possible VTCrunkler, PokerSteve, Vandy and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 25,078 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 10 minutes ago, Atl Falcon said: And TF should feel insulted IF some of the narrow minded know it alls think he shouldn’t consider trading Ryan if the price is right and it’s his plan to draft a QB for the future at 4. Just saying😎 No. TF should worry about his job if he traded snd QB is a dud. Either ways final trade decision will be Rich mckay and Arthur blanks call. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kiwifalcon 19,794 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 16 minutes ago, Ovie_Lover said: That’s what I imagine. Say they feel Fields is the guy and he can start now and we take him if we wanna trade Ryan we’d do it then or keep him to let Fields learn. But if Fields is the guy and he goes before our pick and we just trade back we’d never know he was the guy they wanted. But we wouldn’t trade Ryan before the draft because then teams would be calling #2 and #3 trying to jump us obviously going QB. Great point Ovie definitely with you on this one. Not showing your hand to the rest of the people around you drafting. Herr Doktor 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Francis 7,180 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 2 hours ago, athell said: Imagine all the MR haters watching him go to NE and win a chip! That would be awesome. I’d be happy for him. athell, raysnill1, Colbeee and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PokerSteve 28,048 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 On 2/26/2021 at 1:12 PM, athell said: I'm unapologetically wanting Matt to be here through his current contract, so within the next 3 years. Maybe more if AS does to him what I think he will... Bad news for the QB@4 crowd, but that's what I think and what my gut is telling me. I understand everybody wanting Matt to be here. It's just hard to understand how we can afford to put such a big percentage of the cap on one player and still be able to put a good team around him. You are correct that as tempting as getting your future QB issue taken care of in the first months of your tenure would be for A.S. and T.F., there are too many holes for them not to trade back for the max haul. I just hope it doesn't end up with one of these QB's playing in Carolina. Atl Falcon 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PokerSteve 28,048 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 2 hours ago, celtiksage said: I'd like to see him win one or two here before he hangs it up, but yeah watching him win one would be cool, unless it's against us. Yeah. If it was against us, that would be the mother of all deranged and demonic, not to mention ironic, plot twists in NFL history. Atl Falcon and celtiksage 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
celtiksage 2,895 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 49 minutes ago, PokerSteve said: Yeah. If it was against us, that would be the mother of all deranged and demonic, not to mention ironic, plot twists in NFL history. Karma says he'd smoke us. And that would suck. Herr Doktor and PokerSteve 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kschreck 5,833 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 4 hours ago, falcons007 said: I am sure Teams are calling around. Rams called packers asking for Aaron Rodgers. I mean the niners asked about Brady a few years ago, gotta do the due diligence falcons007 and Herr Doktor 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Herr Doktor 8,704 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 16 hours ago, kschreck said: I mean the niners asked about Brady a few years ago, gotta do the due diligence Can't hurt to ask. Geneaut and kschreck 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andrews31cain21 469 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 22 hours ago, JD dirtybird21 said: My whole thing with the QB at 4 thing is if Font and Smith really want to do it, then trade Ryan now. Eat the dead cap and clear yourself of it as fast as possible. I just don't want to waste a top 5 pick on a QB if you still think Matt could play for 2-3 more years (which I believe he can.) No way they do that and eat a 40+ Million dollar cap hit... The only way we trade Ryan is trading him after June 1st to split up the cap hit...which i could not see any team doing that except maybe the 49ers..and thats because Matt knows that offense well enough that it probably wouldnt take him long to catch up in their system...but i dont see it happening Herr Doktor and Vandy 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JD dirtybird21 22,955 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 11 minutes ago, andrews31cain21 said: No way they do that and eat a 40+ Million dollar cap hit... The only way we trade Ryan is trading him after June 1st to split up the cap hit...which i could not see any team doing that except maybe the 49ers..and thats because Matt knows that offense well enough that it probably wouldnt take him long to catch up in their system...but i dont see it happening I don’t think so either. I don’t think QB is happening at pick 4. We either trade down or draft Sewell AUTiger7222 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andrews31cain21 469 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 2 minutes ago, JD dirtybird21 said: I don’t think so either. I don’t think QB is happening at pick 4. We either trade down or draft Sewell I would be good with either of those scenarios JD dirtybird21 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Realsurfin 1,165 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Amazing he is good enough for other teams but not good enough for Falcon fans. After years of playing with few injuries considering the Olines letting him be sacked fans give him little respect. 🤨 AUTiger7222, Herr Doktor and Vandy 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atl Falcon 4,153 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 21 hours ago, Duff_Man said: Been working for years for the Bengals, Browns and Jets. It worked for Matt Ryan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atl Falcon 4,153 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 6 minutes ago, Realsurfin said: Amazing he is good enough for other teams but not good enough for Falcon fans. After years of playing with few injuries considering the Olines letting him be sacked fans give him little respect. 🤨 It’s not about lack of respect for me. MR is the greatest thing that ever happened to the Falcons. He absolutely is good enough for the Falcons with me but I do understand and support the idea of TF drafting a QB at 4 or wherever if that’s his plan for long term. MR will be 36 in two months and if TF wants to build his future with a young QB what’s wrong with that? You’re right about the OL sucking and all the sacks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 25,078 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 1 hour ago, andrews31cain21 said: No way they do that and eat a 40+ Million dollar cap hit... The only way we trade Ryan is trading him after June 1st to split up the cap hit...which i could not see any team doing that except maybe the 49ers..and thats because Matt knows that offense well enough that it probably wouldnt take him long to catch up in their system...but i dont see it happening Ryan cap hit won’t be split post or pre June 1st. Falcons will have to take 40+ M cap hit. Only relief in post June 1st trade is Cap hit will be spread over 3 years. 17 M in each of 2021, 2022, and another 7-8 M in 2023. Vandy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NorthGaBoy 1,455 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 On 2/26/2021 at 12:34 PM, JohnnyFranchise said: as long as they throw in a 2022 first round pick so we can draft our next franchise qb with it. If we agreed to such a trade, would we not have to draft a QB at 4 in 2021? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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