Snafu 7,425 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 (edited) I think Matt's cap hit next year is a major hurdle, but there is no worse salary on our books than Jake Matthews being the highest paid OLman next year. Except maybe Fowler... Edited February 24 by Snafu PokerSteve 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 26,694 Posted February 24 Author Share Posted February 24 13 minutes ago, Killing Floor said: Not a mind reader. Or am I, mwah haha. But if TF is keeping and extending Ryan he’ll say he’s an attractive asset and if TF is trading Ryan he’ll say he’s an attractive asset. We will know his intentions after draft and FA and preseason. I’m not saying I anticipate a move. Just that no professional is going to advertise one now. He didn’t say attractive asset. Ryan’s leadership inside and outside attracted him to take the job. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 26,694 Posted February 24 Author Share Posted February 24 15 minutes ago, blknoble357 said: You are reading to much into that I am not reading anything. It’s a direct quote from the GM. Unless you think TF is all lies in front of camera. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 26,694 Posted February 24 Author Share Posted February 24 3 minutes ago, Snafu said: I think Matt's cap hit next year is a major hurdle, but there is no worse salary on our books than Jake Matthews being the highest paid OLman next year. Except maybe Fowler... Paid and cap are entirely different. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Snafu 7,425 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 (edited) 3 minutes ago, falcons007 said: Paid and cap are entirely different. Im referencing his cap hit. Over 20Mill for him. Ridiculous. Edited February 24 by Snafu Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MattM12 1,785 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 hour ago, Mister pudding said: I love Matt Ryan but not the contract... why can't both be true? Same with Julio You need to care about other things in life other than another man's money. And if you want to be shocked by QB contracts, look at who is getting paid more than him. the list will shock you. GrimeyKidd 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 26,694 Posted February 24 Author Share Posted February 24 1 minute ago, Snafu said: Im referencing his cap hit. Too early to worry about cap hit for next year. Let’s see how TF manages it and what Jake Mathews does on the field in 2021. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kiwifalcon 19,964 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 hour ago, Mister pudding said: I love Matt Ryan but not the contract... why can't both be true? Same with Julio I don’t mind the contracts both have earned those. Covid can kick rocks though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Snafu 7,425 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 9 minutes ago, falcons007 said: Too early to worry about cap hit for next year. Let’s see how TF manages it and what Jake Mathews does on the field in 2021. Sorry, by "Next Year" I meant the 2021 NFL season (The league year hasnt started). He's due to make over $20 Mill this season. He will be the highest paid OL in the NFL if I'm not mistaken. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ROMERO 4,208 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Cant have a Ryan thread without someone talking about how much he makes. HASHBROWN3 and A Pimp Named Slickback™ 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dirtybirds233 1,035 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 15 minutes ago, Snafu said: I think Matt's cap hit next year is a major hurdle, but there is no worse salary on our books than Jake Matthews being the highest paid OLman next year. Except maybe Fowler... There's really not a way around restructuring or extending him if we want to be both cap compliant and have a full roster. Outside of James Carpenter, there's not a whole lot of savings left on the roster, and we'll be having to sign around 18ish players to get to a 53 man roster post draft. Restructuring the 6 largest contracts (sans Ryan and Julio) and cutting Carpenter only gets us to $12M in space, and the draft class is projected to be about $11M. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Snafu 7,425 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 12 minutes ago, MattM12 said: You need to care about other things in life other than another man's money. And if you want to be shocked by QB contracts, look at who is getting paid more than him. the list will shock you. There is no list of people making more than Matt in 2021. Matt Ryan has the 2nd largest cap hit in the NFL this season @ $40.9 Million Only Roethlisberger is slated to make more, but it likely wont happen. "You need to care about other things in life other than another man's money." is such a silly argument. Nobody would give a crap how much he makes if the NFL didnt have a salary cap. If you are a fan of a team, there's nothing wrong with having opinions on how hard cap dollars should be distributed. PokerSteve and AlabamaFalconFan 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mister pudding 4,390 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 16 minutes ago, MattM12 said: You need to care about other things in life other than another man's money. And if you want to be shocked by QB contracts, look at who is getting paid more than him. the list will shock you. I'm not really sure how you came to that conclusion from my post. PokerSteve 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MattM12 1,785 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 15 minutes ago, Snafu said: There is no list of people making more than Matt in 2021. Matt Ryan has the 2nd largest cap hit in the NFL this season @ $40.9 Million Only Roethlisberger is slated to make more, but it likely wont happen. "You need to care about other things in life other than another man's money." is such a silly argument. Nobody would give a crap how much he makes if the NFL didnt have a salary cap. If you are a fan of a team, there's nothing wrong with having opinions on how hard cap dollars should be distributed. A silly line of thought are fans (without legal or finance degrees) who think they understand cap manipulation. The cold hard fact of the matter is Ryan is due to earn 30 mill, which puts him 9th in 2021... behind Carson Wentz & Kirk Cousins. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MattM12 1,785 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 18 minutes ago, Mister pudding said: I'm not really sure how you came to that conclusion from my post. Happy to admit I misinterpreted you, then. Enjoy your day. Mister pudding 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mister pudding 4,390 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 (edited) 5 minutes ago, MattM12 said: A silly line of thought are fans (without legal or finance degrees) who think they understand cap manipulation. The cold hard fact of the matter is Ryan is due to earn 30 mill, which puts him 9th in 2021... behind Carson Wentz & Kirk Cousins. Not that I'm disagreeing here, but just for clarity, I am a CFO of a law firm 😂 And I still don't understand cap manipulation Edited February 24 by Mister pudding PokerSteve and Rings 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 26,694 Posted February 24 Author Share Posted February 24 20 minutes ago, Snafu said: There is no list of people making more than Matt in 2021. Matt Ryan has the 2nd largest cap hit in the NFL this season @ $40.9 Million Only Roethlisberger is slated to make more, but it likely wont happen. "You need to care about other things in life other than another man's money." is such a silly argument. Nobody would give a crap how much he makes if the NFL didnt have a salary cap. If you are a fan of a team, there's nothing wrong with having opinions on how hard cap dollars should be distributed. 1 minute ago, MattM12 said: A silly line of thought are fans (without legal or finance degrees) who think they understand cap manipulation. The cold hard fact of the matter is Ryan is due to earn 30 mill, which puts him 9th in 2021... behind Carson Wentz & Kirk Cousins. What a player is Making and cap are entirely different. Matt salary is barely top 10 in NFL. His cap was in bottom of franchise QB from 2018-2020. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Drunken Minotaur Zebra 7,848 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 4 hours ago, xSICKxWITHxITx said: So no QB at 4? That was never even a question. People thinking we were taking a QB at 4 don't understand football and are high on paint. JohnnyFranchise, xSICKxWITHxITx and shockerfalcon 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sidecar Falcon 8,436 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 5 hours ago, PriMeTiiMe said: What else could he say in a F2F meeting with the cameras on? "Hey Matt, you suck but nice to meet you! Be on the lookout for a trade here soon bud" Not saying what he said isn't true, But of course he is going to give high praise to his new teams QB. lol Seriously what was he supposed to say? “I would have really loved to live in California, but Atlanta paid more.” Articles like this should be taken with a grain of sand. This is pretty much a “Thank you for the opportunity, I won’t let you down.” response that you give to your employers. That being said, I never believed we were the least attractive opening; however we certainly weren’t the best either. PokerSteve 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Killing Floor 1,151 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 3 hours ago, falcons007 said: He didn’t say attractive asset. Ryan’s leadership inside and outside attracted him to take the job. OK, you caught me. If TF is keeping and extending Ryan he’ll say Ryan’s leadership inside and outside attracted him to take the job. If TF is not planning to keep Ryan he'll say Ryan’s leadership inside and outside attracted him to take the job. Is that better? Aside from meaning the exact thing, is that better? No professional GM is ever going to publicly make guarantees of wins, make easily disprovable statements about performance, or throw any player under a bus or excessively praise any one player. It's just good business. I’m not saying I anticipate a move. Just that no professional is going to advertise one now. And if we make 6-10 next season that is a 50% improvement which is more than any player or coach or GM needs to keep on salary. And that there are 2 teams in our division who can sweep us and a third one who is interested in Watson which effectively locks a door. Ryan's not going anywhere. And even if he was, TF wouldn't say so. PokerSteve, JohnnyFranchise and RetroRoq 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Snafu 7,425 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 4 hours ago, MattM12 said: A silly line of thought are fans (without legal or finance degrees) who think they understand cap manipulation. The cold hard fact of the matter is Ryan is due to earn 30 mill, which puts him 9th in 2021... behind Carson Wentz & Kirk Cousins. Where are you pulling your numbers, because he has a $23M base salary and a $17.9M bonus. He counts $40.9M against the cap this year. Largely a result of Dimitroff restructuring his deal twice and continually kicking the can down the road. PokerSteve 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Snafu 7,425 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 4 hours ago, falcons007 said: What a player is Making and cap are entirely different. Matt salary is barely top 10 in NFL. His cap was in bottom of franchise QB from 2018-2020. True. Dimitroff messed up by continually kicking the can down the road while not bringing in very much good talent to offset the future burden. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PokerSteve 28,907 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 6 hours ago, Mister pudding said: I love Matt Ryan but not the contract... why can't both be true? Same with Julio 'troffed. Killing Floor and Mister pudding 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mister pudding 4,390 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 minute ago, PokerSteve said: 'troffed. Can't argue with that, but it is what it is PokerSteve 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PokerSteve 28,907 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 5 hours ago, MattM12 said: You need to care about other things in life other than another man's money. And if you want to be shocked by QB contracts, look at who is getting paid more than him. the list will shock you. You mad, bro? It's not about another man's money it's about the ***** cap. You do understand that's why there's any debate at all in terms of Ryan staying around and us possibly taking a QB at #4 to replace him right? You're familiar with the big picture, right? AlabamaFalconFan, Jerz and Mister pudding 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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