DonOfThemBirds 19,255 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 10 minutes ago, g-dawg said: in total fairness, regardless of play selection, etc - you cannot 100% absolve Matt of 28-3 - I mean, he was the QB and needed to make 1-2 more plays. I know how it went down w/ the penalty, not running the ball at end, etc - but it was 28-3 and it didn't have to come down to what it did. True But even with that, still can't use that to say that Ryan isn't good enough to win a SB with. Especially when Ben was really terrible in the SB they won against the Seahawks and wasn't that good in the SB they won vs the Cardinals. A QB doesn't even have to play that well to win a SB. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrews_31 5,360 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Ryan Clark could have made his point without the dumb asss 28-3 comment, he could put that loss on play calling and Devonte Freeman! Furthermore, ask that dunce has he ever heard of Trent Dilfer??? falconsd56, JohnnyFranchise, ATLskinjob and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 25,076 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 12 minutes ago, DonOfThemBirds said: True But even with that, still can't use that to say that Ryan isn't good enough to win a SB with. Especially when Ben was really terrible in the SB they won against the Seahawks and wasn't that good in the SB they won vs the Cardinals. A QB doesn't even have to play that well to win a SB. Did Ryan Clark watch Last years SB? Mahomes was terrible and yet his team won the SB. Mahomes has 78 and 52 QB rating in his two SB. Herr Doktor, 1989Fan and DonOfThemBirds 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beast-N-Da-Sheetz 4,076 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 hour ago, DonOfThemBirds said: True. Personally 28-3 doesn't bother me. I just didn't understand why Clark would use that SB loss as a reason why Ryan isn't good enough to win a SB with. It may have been more of a jab though because he grew up a Saints fan. Probably because in most people's eyes, that Superbowl was the peak of Matt's career. Now you look at him being on the wrong side of 30 with his window seemingly closing. So many arguments can be for Ryan good, bad and everything in between, and all of them would probably be valid. Maybe Arthur can help get Ryan in position to win the big one, maybe not. Either way you have to be looking towards however you approach it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beast-N-Da-Sheetz 4,076 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 hour ago, Drvillain said: because Ryan did more than enough on his part to win that game. The opposing QB actually did just about everything to try and lose it. Ryan Clark would have had a better argument if he said that Matty and the falcons were cursed. Probably so, but I think his main point was the QB position in itself. No matter whos fault that game falls on, it's about the Falcons QB position today in 2021. Macknsweetjones 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Macknsweetjones 1,704 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 I agreed with what was said, TF get this **** done so we can have the future lined up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kschreck 5,833 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 The reality is, if it were Rodgers, Brady, Brees, etc, the narrative would be that their supporting cast let them down but since it's someone in the MR group of QBs, he "wasn't good enough to win the SB" I agree with a lot of what Ryan Clark says but this time, I think he's basically re-writing history with that comment. As far as what we should do in the draft....it will be really interesting to see how it plays out. Herr Doktor and 1989Fan 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jerz #GurleySZN 7,194 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 2 hours ago, DonOfThemBirds said: Ain't got nothing against him. ...... don't know why he had to bring up 28-3 as a reason to say Ryan isn't good enough tho. Its a trigger for falcons fans yes we know. We’d be saying the same thing about brees and you know it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonOfThemBirds 19,255 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 3 minutes ago, Jerz #GurleySZN said: Its a trigger for falcons fans yes we know. We’d be saying the same thing about brees and you know it. I wouldn't. I agree that many here would though. vitaman 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jerz #GurleySZN 7,194 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 7 minutes ago, DonOfThemBirds said: I wouldn't. I agree that many here would though. The thing is we all know Matt is good enough to win it all. A lot of these QBs are. Its just the critical moments of his career he’s always reduced to an ash. Eagles 17’ 49ers 12’ SB Off the top. It’s not his fault but slightly better play in critical situations of those games would have decided it all. Matt at times can be the most vulnerable sitting duck in the pocket. An ounce more of athleticism would have allowed him to throw the ball away instead of taking a sack from Flowers in the SB in fg range. You can’t put that game all on Matt because he balled out but when it comes to turning point of the game Matt doesn’t get it done. Waiting for the perfect team would allow plenty of QBs to be carried to a ship. But the NFL is another beast. Too many variables, some in the teams control and some not, to not always strive for greatness instead of sticking to the status quo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
egoprime II 2,785 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 5 hours ago, TheTrue7 said: Decent segment.. until Ryan opened his mouth. 3 hours ago, DriveHomeSafelyAtlantaWins said: Ryan Clark is a bonafide idiot. 3 hours ago, Francis York Morgan said: Any non-satirical video with "reacts" in the title is bound to be cringe 3 hours ago, Beast-N-Da-Sheetz said: What y'all got against Ryan Clark? I agreed with mostly everything he said lol. 3 hours ago, DonOfThemBirds said: Ain't got nothing against him. ...... don't know why he had to bring up 28-3 as a reason to say Ryan isn't good enough tho. When I listen to the 'talking heads' giving thier opinions, I try to remember these folks work for a broadcast company. Many times they are told what position to take, so everyone doesn't end up agreeing with each other. In other newa, the lady 'talking heads' seem to be doing a good job replacing thier male counterparts? These ladies are proving that they can be just as redundant and -boring- as thier male counterparts are. That one lady talks about 'NFL Draft gamesmanship' as if its some new thing she needs to -explain- to us...... 🙄 DriveHomeSafelyAtlantaWins and DonOfThemBirds 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
egoprime II 2,785 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 3 hours ago, DonOfThemBirds said: Forgot Ryan Clark is a Louisiana native. Spoken like a true Saints fan. Now his opinions can go down the toilet hopefully like the Saints do post-Brees era. Wouldn't the Saint just love to see Matt Ryan get cut..... so they can sign yet -another- HOF caliber QB as a street FA? And have to pay -nothing- as regards draft picks, for him? DonOfThemBirds 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mister pudding 3,505 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 hour ago, kschreck said: The reality is, if it were Rodgers, Brady, Brees, etc, the narrative would be that their supporting cast let them down but since it's someone in the MR group of QBs, he "wasn't good enough to win the SB" I agree with a lot of what Ryan Clark says but this time, I think he's basically re-writing history with that comment. As far as what we should do in the draft....it will be really interesting to see how it plays out. 4th highest quarterback rating in Superbowl history. ATLskinjob and DriveHomeSafelyAtlantaWins 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Draftnut57 4,323 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 On 2/24/2021 at 11:14 AM, Xfactor said: I see nothing wrong with drafting a QB at 4 sit a year and learn. The cap will go up in 2022 and a 17 mill hit wouldn’t be that bad especially due to your new franchise QB is on a rookie deal. That would be OK if we wanted to wait another year before we build a winning team.. Your not going to do that if we don't use every pick we have wisely !! If we do. WE have a chance this next season if we draft correctly. It would be like giving so many picks that are within that #4 pick.. It's not like you giving up one pick,, But all the picks we could get if we traded down would blow your mind. If our picks are used wisely ,, we'll make the playoffs next year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CraigSmackDaddy 2,094 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 On 2/24/2021 at 11:44 AM, falconsd56 said: 28-3 is still closer than the saints have gotten in 12 years.... Exactly. Anytime anyone has used it that is pretty much my response. Lot of teams haven’t sniffed a SB in a long time falconsd56 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fuego 16,335 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 On 2/24/2021 at 11:07 AM, DonOfThemBirds said: Ain't got nothing against him. ...... don't know why he had to bring up 28-3 as a reason to say Ryan isn't good enough tho. What in the world does Ryan have to do with us losing up 28-3? He doesn't play D. RetroRoq and DonOfThemBirds 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonOfThemBirds 19,255 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 2 minutes ago, fuego said: What in the world does Ryan have to do with us losing up 28-3? He doesn't play D. Another thing that people fail to mention is that on the play where Freeman whiffed that block Gabriel was open deep down field on what would've been a sure td if he had caught it. That would've put the dagger in the game for the Falcons. JohnnyFranchise and fuego 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fuego 16,335 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Just now, DonOfThemBirds said: Another thing that people fail to mention is that on the play where Freeman whiffed that block Gabriel was open deep down field on what would've been a sure td if he had caught it. That would've put the dagger in the game for the Falcons. Was it Gabriel or was his name Robinson? DonOfThemBirds 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyFranchise 2,666 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 1 minute ago, DonOfThemBirds said: Another thing that people fail to mention is that on the play where Freeman whiffed that block Gabriel was open deep down field on what would've been a sure td if he had caught it. That would've put the dagger in the game for the Falcons. that play hurts more than any. all free had to do was be a speedbump, ryan was already pulling back to throw the post when he got hit DonOfThemBirds 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonOfThemBirds 19,255 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 1 minute ago, fuego said: Was it Gabriel or was his name Robinson? Might've been lol. Have to go back and see which one was it again. But that whiff by Freeman was the most crucial screw up in Falcons history. That was the breaking point where Falcons could never recover from. fuego 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonOfThemBirds 19,255 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 7 minutes ago, JohnnyFranchise said: that play hurts more than any. all free had to do was be a speedbump, ryan was already pulling back to throw the post when he got hit Yep What makes it worse was Freeman talking about getting paid and speaking publicly about wanting to be the SB MVP. Only to be the guy on the wrong side of the biggest whiffed block in football history. fuego 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sponge 20,883 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 On 2/24/2021 at 11:03 AM, Beast-N-Da-Sheetz said: What y'all got against Ryan Clark? I agreed with mostly everything he said lol. Football opinion aside, he comes off as a cocky ***** to me. Herr Doktor 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fuego 16,335 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 2 hours ago, JohnnyFranchise said: that play hurts more than any. all free had to do was be a speedbump, ryan was already pulling back to throw the post when he got hit I still remember that camera shot from behind Ryan and you could see him open down the field. Then BOOM! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jerz #GurleySZN 7,194 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 6 minutes ago, fuego said: I still remember that camera shot from behind Ryan and you could see him open down the field. Then BOOM! Alright man we get it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faithful Falcon 8,219 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 On 2/24/2021 at 11:03 AM, Beast-N-Da-Sheetz said: What y'all got against Ryan Clark? I agreed with mostly everything he said lol. I haven't watched it, but around here, if you say anything about Matt; you're considered an idiot. Jerz #GurleySZN and Beast-N-Da-Sheetz 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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