DonOfThemBirds 20,908 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 26 minutes ago, Knight of God said: 5'10" I think. 5'9 Just like his old man. Knight of God 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jazzyburrell 407 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 9 hours ago, ike barn87987 said: Could be a steal, has that elite FS range and TF said he will fill holes with veterans, so they can draft the BPA! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Knight of God 54,650 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 31 minutes ago, DonOfThemBirds said: 5'9 Just like his old man. Okay! Okay! DonOfThemBirds 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blkbigdog35 11,720 Posted February 22 Author Share Posted February 22 5 hours ago, atljbo said: Im a Richie Grant fan man....I see ppl say he lack some speed but i dont see it..... I also think he fits that interchangeable Safety coach Pees like... He has that Kevin Byard feel to me.... A ball hawking play maker who can play deep safety but also come up and make a tackle in the box.... He can also man up back there at Safety when needed (when blitzing) Ok bruh this kid looks good. Thanks for the info! realhomie81 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyFranchise 3,130 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 5 hours ago, atljbo said: Im a Richie Grant fan man....I see ppl say he lack some speed but i dont see it..... I also think he fits that interchangeable Safety coach Pees like... He has that Kevin Byard feel to me.... A ball hawking play maker who can play deep safety but also come up and make a tackle in the box.... He can also man up back there at Safety when needed (when blitzing) when it comes to safety, ball hawking skills/instincts > speed. grant's a baller. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyFranchise 3,130 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 16 hours ago, Knight of God said: Washington, Ford, Holland, Hufanga, Hamsa, Grant, Cisco, and Sterns are pretty much good for this system. I'm not very high on any, but I would much rather look at FA and possibly go with a top CB in this draft. Surtain or Samuel. Since this years CB draft is more top heavy than deep, there will likely be an early run on CBs and the top four guys could likely be gone before our second. that is a very good point. conversely, because the safety class is so stacked they'll almost all be available in rounds 2 and 3. teams won't be in a rush to draft one because they know they can get a stud later anyways. Knight of God and Herr Doktor 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fernando C. 1,283 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 1 hour ago, JohnnyFranchise said: that is a very good point. conversely, because the safety class is so stacked they'll almost all be available in rounds 2 and 3. teams won't be in a rush to draft one because they know they can get a stud later anyways. We can grab the number 1 CB prospect and 1 S prospect in the first and second.. pair that with a Marcus Williams in FA ... we have a top 10 Secondary next year and year 2 watch out... JohnnyFranchise and Herr Doktor 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyFranchise 3,130 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 15 minutes ago, Fernando C. said: We can grab the number 1 CB prospect and 1 S prospect in the first and second.. pair that with a Marcus Williams in FA ... we have a top 10 Secondary next year and year 2 watch out... and even if we miss on the #1 safety, #'s 2 through 6/7 are just as good. we could absolutely have a ridiculous defensive backfield very quickly. Fernando C. and Herr Doktor 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
atljbo 22,046 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 14 hours ago, ike barn87987 said: Ive been talking about this... Its going to be a rIsk but man would i take it to get a potential talent like him on a good contract Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Voice of Reason 828 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 4 hours ago, JohnnyFranchise said: when it comes to safety, ball hawking skills/instincts > speed. grant's a baller. And since he balled out in front of every scout, coach, and GM at the Senior bowl, he’s likely found his way in the first round. Herr Doktor 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Voice of Reason 828 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 19 hours ago, blkbigdog35 said: Like Marcus Williams a lot. He should be affordable. Like Simmons but someone is probably going to give him big money. Shawn Williams would have to do a little more research on unless you got some feedback. I think Maye needs to get out Jet purgatory so he can finally show his skills! I never was that impressed with Shawn Williams. Granted, I haven’t really watched much of him in the pros, so I’m sure he’s developed a ton. But in college he seemed to do everything ok but nothing really superb. He’d certain be an upgrade over what we’ve had, but I’m taking Williams or Mayes all day if I had the chance. blkbigdog35 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Voice of Reason 828 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 4 hours ago, atljbo said: Ive been talking about this... Its going to be a rIsk but man would i take it to get a potential talent like him on a good contract I just REALLY worry about an Achilles tear. More so than an ACL tear. Now days an Achilles tear is like a 2 year recovery before there any resemblance to a player’s former self. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
realhomie81 169 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 (edited) He's my number one FS followed by Richie Grant and Ar'Darius Washington. Edited February 22 by realhomie81 Vandy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vandy 40,356 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 15 minutes ago, realhomie81 said: He's my number one FS followed by Richie Grant and Ar'Darius Washington. He definitely should be up there. Surprised he’s not getting more love in here. JohnnyFranchise and realhomie81 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
realhomie81 169 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 1 minute ago, Vandy said: He definitely should be up there. Surprised he’s not getting more love in here. I agree. Don't get me wrong I like the other safeties that other fans want but Cisco brings a little more in my opinion. He has the ball skills and the hit factor which is what I look for in a safety. Vandy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
k-train 9,274 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 The scouting report The Draft Network has up on Cisco makes him sound like a slightly bigger Kazee. Essentially says that while he's definitely got a nose for the ball & can make plays, he has a tendency to always look for the big hit or INT rather than playing fundamentally sound football... and thus gives up as many big plays as he makes. Says he's not very disciplined & while he has the tools to become a great FS, he's got a ways to go before he could truly be trusted. Also says he's not consistent at all with playing the run. I take everything I read from the guys at The Draft Network with a grain of salt, because I'm not sure they have any more qualification than folks on this message board when it comes to player evaluation... but if there's truth to what they are saying about Cisco, that probably explains why he's not getting the love some other prospects are. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vandy 40,356 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 2 hours ago, realhomie81 said: I agree. Don't get me wrong I like the other safeties that other fans want but Cisco brings a little more in my opinion. He has the ball skills and the hit factor which is what I look for in a safety. I’m assuming coming into draft that DE/corner/RB are 3 biggest priorities.....so unless we do a trade down, which I believe we will...I’m doubtful he’s still there in Rd 4.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
atljbo 22,046 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 6 hours ago, Voice of Reason said: I just REALLY worry about an Achilles tear. More so than an ACL tear. Now days an Achilles tear is like a 2 year recovery before there any resemblance to a player’s former self. I get it... Its a risk man..... So i get it.... I just know our funds are limited and we have ALOT of roster spaces to fill.... People are on here talking about signing Safeties thats going to command 13-14 mil a year..... I can see us signing a couple of mid level freeagents Quote Link to post Share on other sites
irrelevantfalconsfan 394 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 18 hours ago, Red Bandana said: Hopefully we have open tryouts for the safety position so I can show my skills There you go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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