blknoble357 183 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 https://www.ajc.com/sports/atlanta-falcons/falcons-make-first-moves-to-get-out-of-salary-cap-****/WESNP3Q25VCWNHTB4ZRAC7MKBE/ Dirtier Bird 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Macknsweetjones 1,693 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 I expect to get some decent role players in FA this season and good depth support in the draft after we get a qb. 2022 should be the turning point year…Move Matt Ryan for picks in the draft and maybe Julio too then it’s really time to stack this team Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconFanSince1969 15,520 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 28 minutes ago, Macknsweetjones said: I expect to get some decent role players in FA this season and good depth support in the draft after we get a qb. 2022 should be the turning point year…Move Matt Ryan for picks in the draft and maybe Julio too then it’s really time to stack this team We aren't getting squat if we move matt and julio because we wouldn't be able to manipulate their contracts. We would eat the 63+ mil that would cost and that would be it. We would have zero wiggle room ROMERO, athell, Herr Doktor and 8 others 7 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NorthGaBoy 1,432 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 15 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1969 said: We aren't getting squat if we move matt and julio because we wouldn't be able to manipulate their contracts. We would eat the 63+ mil that would cost and that would be it. We would have zero wiggle room It is pointless trying to explain this. You cannot reason with the dump Ryan fans. gazoo, athell, ROMERO and 5 others 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RING OF HONOR 16,820 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Yeah ....I think we move Ryan..... Right behind the center.... Falcons Fan MVP, Falcon918, Since1990 and 15 others 2 16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Herr Doktor 8,267 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Terry Fontenot is no slouch. He'll get this right. blknoble357, PokerSteve, marvinthemartian and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Xfactor 4,166 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Matt and Julio aren’t going anywhere this season Falcons Beach Bum, PokerSteve, ROMERO and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Herr Doktor 8,267 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 2 minutes ago, Xfactor said: Matt and Julio aren’t going anywhere this season The more I look at it, they probably don't go anywhere for two seasons. I just don't see TF extending either or trying to radically rework their deals. marvinthemartian, Falcons Beach Bum and PokerSteve 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Macknsweetjones 1,693 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 (edited) 44 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1969 said: We aren't getting squat if we move matt and julio because we wouldn't be able to manipulate their contracts. We would eat the 63+ mil that would cost and that would be it. We would have zero wiggle room Matt can def be moved in 2022 and his *** will be..what are you talking about .. Edited February 20 by Macknsweetjones Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconofShadows 1,347 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 1 hour ago, Macknsweetjones said: Matt can def be moved in 2022 and his *** will be..what are you talking about .. I'm going to laugh so hard if we restructure Ryan and make him unmovable until his contract ends the crying will be so fun to watch Falcons Fan MVP, wnyfalconfan, athell and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falcons Fan MVP 3,927 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 55 minutes ago, FalconofShadows said: I'm going to laugh so hard if we restructure Ryan and make him unmovable until his contract ends the crying will be so fun to watch I would. Him and Julio deserve to retire a Falcon. NashvilleFalcon01 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
athell 32,509 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 3 hours ago, NorthGaBoy said: It is pointless trying to explain this. You cannot reason with the dump Ryan fans. This is where we are with them. They have their heads so far up their own booty holes that no amount of logic or reason or common sense helps. Just smile and nod and wait for the season to start with Matt under center, no QB at 4, and remind of of these moments every chance you get They are like the crowd that said there wouldn't be a season. Then that it wouldn't last 2 weeks. Than a month. Then til the playoffs. Then til the SB. They just stay moving goal posts and ignoring reality to fit their own craziness. It's kinda funny. wnyfalconfan 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
408Falcon 1,437 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 3 hours ago, FalconFanSince1969 said: We aren't getting squat if we move matt and julio because we wouldn't be able to manipulate their contracts. We would eat the 63+ mil that would cost and that would be it. We would have zero wiggle room But but but. I did this on Madden 21 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconFanSince1969 15,520 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 2 hours ago, Macknsweetjones said: Matt can def be moved in 2022 and his *** will be..what are you talking about .. You know it's not 2022, right? Dirtybird3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A Dog Named Brian 3,789 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 34 minutes ago, athell said: This is where we are with them. They have their heads so far up their own booty holes that no amount of logic or reason or common sense helps. Just smile and nod and wait for the season to start with Matt under center, no QB at 4, and remind of of these moments every chance you get They are like the crowd that said there wouldn't be a season. Then that it wouldn't last 2 weeks. Than a month. Then til the playoffs. Then til the SB. They just stay moving goal posts and ignoring reality to fit their own craziness. It's kinda funny. Bless their hearts RING OF HONOR, athell and wnyfalconfan 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ATLskinjob 1,026 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Anyone else read the part where the guy in the article says he wouldn't touch Julio's or Calvin's contracts because we are likely going to trade them both next year? I could understand wanting to get out from under the biggest WR contract in the NFL, but why would we get rid of both of them? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
celtiksage 2,716 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 4 hours ago, Macknsweetjones said: I expect to get some decent role players in FA this season and good depth support in the draft after we get a qb. 2022 should be the turning point year…Move Matt Ryan for picks in the draft and maybe Julio too then it’s really time to stack this team Role players and depth. Ummm we need starting caliber safeties, running backs, defensive ends and probably a CB. Gurley was a good role model. And moving MR in 2022? We're a ways from there yet, and his dead cap will still be large. Maybe we do after he has a near MVP season and he boosts his value off the charts. Time will tell on that, but I wouldn't call it a slam dunk. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
celtiksage 2,716 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Just now, ATLskinjob said: Anyone else read the part where the guy in the article says he wouldn't touch Julio's or Calvin's contracts because we are likely going to trade them both next year? I could understand wanting to get out from under the biggest WR contract in the NFL, but why would we get rid of both of them? Yeah, everyone acts like they are going together. Their situations are totally exclusive and separate from the other. One has nothing to do with the other. ATLskinjob 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NorthGaBoy 1,432 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 2 minutes ago, ATLskinjob said: Anyone else read the part where the guy in the article says he wouldn't touch Julio's or Calvin's contracts because we are likely going to trade them both next year? I could understand wanting to get out from under the biggest WR contract in the NFL, but why would we get rid of both of them? We would not. Write something controversial, your visibility increases. athell and ATLskinjob 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ATLskinjob 1,026 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 15 minutes ago, celtiksage said: Yeah, everyone acts like they are going together. Their situations are totally exclusive and separate from the other. One has nothing to do with the other. Yeah that's what I was thinking too. I think Ridley still hasn't hit his ceiling yet, so we give him a nice little contract next season and then watch him grow. I would hate to lose Julio, but I think we're already seeing diminishing returns on that contract and we need to start developing another main WR. I just don't see what sense cutting Ridley would make right now. PokerSteve 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1989Fan 16,051 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 24 minutes ago, ATLskinjob said: Anyone else read the part where the guy in the article says he wouldn't touch Julio's or Calvin's contracts because we are likely going to trade them both next year? I could understand wanting to get out from under the biggest WR contract in the NFL, but why would we get rid of both of them? He was talking about Ryan and Julio (not Ridley and Julio). Saying he wouldnt touch Jones contract because Ridley proved he is a WR1 so Ryan’s and Jones could be on their way out after this season. It does read a little confusing though, tweaking one word makes it much better... We found out with Jones being hurt this year that Calvin Ridley can be a No. 1 receiver,” Corry said. “So, I wouldn’t restructure JONES either. Most likely, these two guys (Ryan & Jones) are playing their last year with the Falcons. They are probably getting traded next year.” Corry believes that Ryan’s and Jones’ days are numbered with the Falcons. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PokerSteve 27,873 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 4 hours ago, Herr Doktor said: The more I look at it, they probably don't go anywhere for two seasons. I just don't see TF extending either or trying to radically rework their deals. Definitely something they are seriously considering. Even if they take a QB at #4, there's no law they have to start him in 2022. Some will argue that would represent a heinous waste of at least one, if not two, of the rookie QB's cheap contract years. If Ryan is back in sync next year and the team gets deep in the play-offs, I don't think anybody believes AS and TF still immediately trade him at the end of the season. Having Ryan back for another run at a SB would then be far more important than the fact it "wasted" an extra year of the rookie's cheap contract. Everything's relative. AS and TF will have a plan for the future. But, they will also stay flexible and not box themselves into a corner. There are two certainties going forward: they're going to piss off at least one, if not multiple factions of TATF at every fork in the road, and, they won't give a single dam what any swinging **** in TATF thinks regardless. Herr Doktor and blknoble357 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Macknsweetjones 1,693 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 2 hours ago, FalconFanSince1969 said: You know it's not 2022, right? Yeah I do just say you read my post too fast and didn’t comprehend miss me with the smart ********…ryan isn’t going to be here in the future get use to the thought of it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ATLskinjob 1,026 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 1 hour ago, 1989Fan said: He was talking about Ryan and Julio (not Ridley and Julio). Saying he wouldnt touch Jones contract because Ridley proved he is a WR1 so Ryan’s and Jones could be on their way out after this season. It does read a little confusing though, tweaking one word makes it much better... We found out with Jones being hurt this year that Calvin Ridley can be a No. 1 receiver,” Corry said. “So, I wouldn’t restructure JONES either. Most likely, these two guys (Ryan & Jones) are playing their last year with the Falcons. They are probably getting traded next year.” Corry believes that Ryan’s and Jones’ days are numbered with the Falcons. Oh that makes sense too. I still think we keep Matty for at least 2 more years. You don't just get rid of a QB of his caliber, especially right now when you look around the league and see so many teams struggling with what everyone was saying is the next great QB prospect that they just drafted. I'm not pointing to any team in particular, it just seems like lots of teams are having turbulence at the QB position, and if we offloaded Matt then we would too. 1989Fan 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
g-dawg 43,337 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 I also believe 2021 is Matt Ryan's last year w/ the Falcons. I'm 50/50 on Julio being w/ Falcons past 2021. Will depend on how his year and his health goes in 2021 if he sticks in 2022. Falcons cannot move on from either player in 2021 but the juice has to be worth the squeeze w/ those two in 2022 or they could be gone. If Falcons draft a QB with #4, then Matt is certainly gone in 2022. blknoble357 and Macknsweetjones 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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