thanat0s 5,364 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Oddly enough, all Smith has to do to win everybody over is have a competent, creative offensive scheme that is able to run the ball and score in the red zone consistently. BUT, the short leash isn't even on the offensive side of the ball. DP is the critical component. Their tenure here will be 100% judged on his ability to field a competent defense that can generate pressure and get off the field on third down. He has done it consistently over time, but as we all know, this is where great defensive minds go to die. I think most every fan is going to be focused on that side of the ball when deciding if this is a successful staff or not. falcons007 and Herr Doktor 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NWFALCON 4,395 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 9 minutes ago, falcons007 said: Yep. Literally no one in the NFL had that luxury in recent past. KS was a rare example where he got 6 year guaranteed, do what you want to rebuild. There is no bring your own players in NFL and wait for 4-5 years. Two losing season, you are likely heading to GA state line. Lucky if you get a third year. Yeah I feel that but I think they deserve the shot at purging the roster of DQ folks. The roster should win some games as it is, but to expect a new front office to spin miracles with so little cap space is a big expectation. KS had high draft picks and a metric **** load of cap. I hope they let these guys do work and build their culture. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 25,092 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 4 minutes ago, NWFALCON said: Yeah I feel that but I think they deserve the shot at purging the roster of DQ folks. The roster should win some games as it is, but to expect a new front office to spin miracles with so little cap space is a big expectation. KS had high draft picks and a metric **** load of cap. I hope they let these guys do work and build their culture. That’s a very dramatic take to say the least. McKay and AB have both said this roster has enough to win this year and next year. They also said expectations are much higher. Heck if a new coach thinks these are not my players, I want him gone now. AS and TF shouldn’t play the favorites, my players, DQ players or who ever. Put the best player on the field and win. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jesus 26,707 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 14 minutes ago, dapanch420 said: Rope in modern slang terms means 💦💦💦 so i hope none. Wait? What? You nasty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hard2BaBirdWachr 1,399 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Probably a real short one while Rich McKay somewhere playing cowboy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HASHBROWN3 17,822 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 3 hours ago, PointSwayzee said: Fans have zero bearing on whether the team wins or lose. ****, we don't even have a homefield advantage because we play in a mall. Anyone who has followed this team for an extended time, has EVERY right to be down and pessimistic. Great, keep up the good work then bro. I've been watching them forever man. Maybe when our attitudes change, we'll see it become reality. I get what you're saying. My point was more as a cheerleader & encourager. It's cool I get it man. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PointSwayzee 835 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 (edited) 3 minutes ago, HASHBROWN3 said: Great, keep up the good work then bro. I've been watching them forever man. Maybe when our attitudes change, we'll see it become reality. I get what you're saying. My point was more as a cheerleader & encourager. It's cool I get it man. 41 years here...you have that beat? Edited February 19 by PointSwayzee Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HASHBROWN3 17,822 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 1 minute ago, PointSwayzee said: 41 years here...you have that beat? I'm right there with you maybe longer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FinalScore2.0 1,161 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 5 years is enough time for an honest assessment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PointSwayzee 835 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 3 minutes ago, HASHBROWN3 said: I'm right there with you maybe longer. Up till about the Petrino thing they could no no wrong in my eyes and every year held eternal hope. Now, it's hard facts and reality and I give 2 ***** about positivity(regarding football). Save that **** for something that actually matters. This is football and every fan that has spent a cent on this franchise through the years can whatever the **** they please. You, stay positive...cause it's bound to change someday. Worked for Dan Quinn. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HASHBROWN3 17,822 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 7 minutes ago, PointSwayzee said: Up till about the Petrino thing they could no no wrong in my eyes and every year held eternal hope. Now, it's hard facts and reality and I give 2 ***** about positivity(regarding football). Save that **** for something that actually matters. This is football and every fan that has spent a cent on this franchise through the years can whatever the **** they please. You, stay positive...cause it's bound to change someday. Worked for Dan Quinn. Dude, I've been thoroughly disgusted for quite some time. I show it all the time on here. I am not precluding myself of my own wishes here. I've had to look at it with a sense of humor otherwise I'd be walking the streets mumbling to myself. If I have learned anything it's to look at it for what it is... entertainment & a game. We care, so that we have in common. I was distraught after the SB, more than you know buddy. PointSwayzee 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
autigerfan 946 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Blank is a smart guy and has been remarkably patient. Barring a total meltdown within the team I would say they will have 3 full years. Herr Doktor 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Herr Doktor 8,705 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 4 minutes ago, autigerfan said: Blank is a smart guy and has been remarkably patient. Barring a total meltdown within the team I would say they will have 3 full years. He put up with the roller coaster we had the last @ 5 years. TF and AS need that time. autigerfan 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PointSwayzee 835 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 23 minutes ago, HASHBROWN3 said: Dude, I've been thoroughly disgusted for quite some time. I show it all the time on here. I am not precluding myself of my own wishes here. I've had to look at it with a sense of humor otherwise I'd be walking the streets mumbling to myself. If I have learned anything it's to look at it for what it is... entertainment & a game. We care, so that we have in common. I was distraught after the SB, more than you know buddy. Well said. HASHBROWN3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ukfalc 3,724 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 I think that any new staff deserves a minimum of 3 years, except in exceptional circumstances (I.e unless we are historically bad in year 1 or 2). This staff is in an quite an unusual situation though. It is likely that we are going to try to compete with what we’ve got for at least a year, and we could conceivably decide to postpone our rebuild for 2 or 3 years. If we do that, we could well be worse in year 3 than in year 1 if we have a new young starting QB because of where we are in the rebuilding process, so we need to make some allowance for things like that. I think Blank is quite patient on the whole. He wants success, but he also values and covets continuity, so he’s not too eager to pull the trigger. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PointSwayzee 835 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 (edited) 24 minutes ago, ukfalc said: I think that any new staff deserves a minimum of 3 years, except in exceptional circumstances (I.e unless we are historically bad in year 1 or 2). This staff is in an quite an unusual situation though. It is likely that we are going to try to compete with what we’ve got for at least a year, and we could conceivably decide to postpone our rebuild for 2 or 3 years. If we do that, we could well be worse in year 3 than in year 1 if we have a new young starting QB because of where we are in the rebuilding process, so we need to make some allowance for things like that. The latter is my biggest fear as a Falcon Fan. Blank and McKay said this team is good enough to win, yet is has not in 3 straight years, same failed prognostication again and again. So, in my eyes they are just flat out wrong, regarding their thoughts or opinions on the roster, I mean we are not winning, right? If we are trying again to force open the very closed window and have another 2 losing seasons or even worse .500 seasons...Smith is gone after year 2. If we draft a QB at 4, then I would say he gets at least 3. If Blank was 70, would this team be looking to try and win now or rebuilding. I know what I think. Edited February 19 by PointSwayzee Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alomar 279 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 There is a lot of talent on this team already. I would expect immediate success. I'm not saying SB or fire everybody, but if we go 0-16 changes need to be made. I honestly expect to be playoff contenders this upcoming year. If we miss the playoffs but have a decent record, 10-6 to 6-10 range, then give it another year...my 2 cents Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A Pimp Named Slickback™ 3,409 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 They will be ran outta town after the 2021 NFL Draft Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NWFALCON 4,395 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 On 2/19/2021 at 9:51 AM, falcons007 said: That’s a very dramatic take to say the least. McKay and AB have both said this roster has enough to win this year and next year. They also said expectations are much higher. Heck if a new coach thinks these are not my players, I want him gone now. AS and TF shouldn’t play the favorites, my players, DQ players or who ever. Put the best player on the field and win. They’ll always say expectations are high. They’ll never say expectations are lower. If we run a different offensive and defensive scheme, then the players will matter. We have seen enough square peg in a circle whole. I’m not talking favorites when I say their guys. I’m talking their type of players to maximize success in the scheme. Adaptability is cool but you draft and sign people based on how they will be maximized in a particular scheme. Hopefully that makes sense. I’m hyped up on morphine after donating a kidney. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Friendly Folk 1,510 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 I say that if Mel Kiper gives the Falcons a thumbs down on our draft class, TF is gone the next day. If the starters don’t score on the first drive in the first preseason game, it’s all over for Arthur as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 25,092 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 8 hours ago, NWFALCON said: They’ll always say expectations are high. They’ll never say expectations are lower. If we run a different offensive and defensive scheme, then the players will matter. We have seen enough square peg in a circle whole. I’m not talking favorites when I say their guys. I’m talking their type of players to maximize success in the scheme. Adaptability is cool but you draft and sign people based on how they will be maximized in a particular scheme. Hopefully that makes sense. I’m hyped up on morphine after donating a kidney. Much respect, hope you are recovering well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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