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Why on earth would anyone consider trading one of the only key pieces on defense?

Trading Jarrett? WTH

Far more likely that we end up extending Grady and/or converting some of his base salary this season to clear cap space.   It's easy to manipulate the cap on a player you know you are gonna

3 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said:

We’d be far more inclined to draft Sewell and trade Matthews.  That frees up more money than moving Grady

This would be an interesting move. Jake has been good, but the savings, the draft pick, and having someone more athletic and cheaper at that spot for the next 5 years has to be lurking on some brainstorming board around the branch. 
 

 

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4 hours ago, Someday soon said:

https://overthecap.com/calculator/atlanta-falcons/

Still a long ways to go to get a full roster (need 12 more players that will add to our cap) and be under the cap.

Something most here won't consider but trading Jarrett would gain an additional $11 million of space with a dead cap hit of $11 million.

Year Games Played Games Missed Snaps Tackles Negative Plays Interceptions Fumbles TD
Injured Healthy Defense Special Solo Assist Sacks Yards TFL QB Hits Pass Def. INT Yards Forced Rec. Yards
2015 15 1 0 25.6% 14.7% 13 11 1 5 4 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2016 16 0 0 56.6% 14.7% 21 27 3 18 4 9 0 0 0 0 1 0 0
2017 15 0 0 74.8% 17.9% 31 21 3 22 12 11 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2018 14 2 0 65.0% 14.5% 27 25 6 36 8 16 0 0 0 3 0 0 0
2019 16 0 0 77.7% 12.7% 38 31 7.5 49 12 16 0 0 0 2 0 0 0
2020 16 0 0 78.7% 13.3% 27 25 4 29.5 8 20 0 0 0 0 1 0

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Bro. Trade Jarrett? He's arguably the best player on our roster. Are you serious? We need to extend him. He's just like his daddy Jessie Tuggle. A flat out as beater. Trust me.

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14 hours ago, Someday soon said:

https://overthecap.com/calculator/atlanta-falcons/

Still a long ways to go to get a full roster (need 12 more players that will add to our cap) and be under the cap.

Something most here won't consider but trading Jarrett would gain an additional $11 million of space with a dead cap hit of $11 million.

Year Games Played Games Missed Snaps Tackles Negative Plays Interceptions Fumbles TD
Injured Healthy Defense Special Solo Assist Sacks Yards TFL QB Hits Pass Def. INT Yards Forced Rec. Yards
2015 15 1 0 25.6% 14.7% 13 11 1 5 4 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2016 16 0 0 56.6% 14.7% 21 27 3 18 4 9 0 0 0 0 1 0 0
2017 15 0 0 74.8% 17.9% 31 21 3 22 12 11 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2018 14 2 0 65.0% 14.5% 27 25 6 36 8 16 0 0 0 3 0 0 0
2019 16 0 0 77.7% 12.7% 38 31 7.5 49 12 16 0 0 0 2 0 0 0
2020 16 0 0 78.7% 13.3% 27 25 4 29.5 8 20 0 0 0 0 1 0

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Cut Grady? Sheesh.  We should extend him.

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14 hours ago, ya_boi_j said:

Why on earth would anyone consider trading one of the only key pieces on defense?

It is a focus thing. Focus on managing the cap makes it a consideration. Focus on fielding a football team makes it unearthly to consider. I think a wholistic take is the talent gap such a move would create would actually negate any cap savings (the cost of the talent you need to find exceeds the increase in available cap after the move). 

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Just now, falcndave said:

It is a focus thing. Focus on managing the cap makes it a consideration. Focus on fielding a football team makes it unearthly to consider. I think a wholistic take is the talent gap such a move would create would actually negate any cap savings (the cost of the talent you need to find exceeds the increase in available cap after the move). 

Yeah......no

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Restructuring Matt and Julio alone puts us at $4M under the cap. Cutting Carpenter and restructuring Matthews and Fowler gets us to $22M. Draft class is projected to be about $11M, so we'll have another $11M left over. With only 31 non-PS players on the roster (38ish if you count the coming draft class), it's going to be quite the task to get to a 53 man roster with only $11M to do so. 

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and yet... I want this FO to be open to the phone call that suggests this.

Most all of the comments here really are in reaction to what the Falcons would lose if they traded Grady.

But what could they get back?  If you were Falcon GM, what would be your price for someone like Grady cause everybody has a price and there are at least 30 GMs out there that may be willing to make an offer.

I mean the Texans put it out there what it would take to get Watson, whats the going rate for a Grady?  Maybe Atlanta can live without Grady.

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On 2/20/2021 at 5:39 AM, RetroRoq said:

and yet... I want this FO to be open to the phone call that suggests this.

Most all of the comments here really are in reaction to what the Falcons would lose if they traded Grady.

But what could they get back?  If you were Falcon GM, what would be your price for someone like Grady cause everybody has a price and there are at least 30 GMs out there that may be willing to make an offer.

I mean the Texans put it out there what it would take to get Watson, whats the going rate for a Grady?  Maybe Atlanta can live without Grady.

The reactions are like that because Jarretts the centre piece of the defense.Watson realistically isn’t happening everyone knows this they are on the hook with Ryan already so wanting and the Texans enquiring is just noise at this point.

Watson is a bridge to far unless they were thinking about off loading all of there young talent Debo Ridley and alike aswell.

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1 hour ago, autigerfan said:

Carp looks like a goner with these numbers.  I think we will see some other re-structures to free up cap space.  Cutting Oliver actually costs us more money than we save so I think we find a way to salvage him with a move to safety being a possibility.

I think you're right on Carpenter. They might just wait and make him a post 1 Jun cut.

I could see keeping or cutting Oliver. Davidson is the one that actually costs us to cut. Oliver is a dead cap of 323k but saves us 2.1 million. He might be another one after the draft, but cutting him now or later has no financial difference.

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