FalconsIn2012 35,705 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 3 minutes ago, PriMeTiiMe said: Trade Grady might top the dumbest thing I have seen on here in the last week. I mean, if we get a quality player at a premium position in return, I’d trade him. Garrett for Myles: done Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kiwifalcon 19,869 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Your either a fan of another team or are part of a sleeper cell that’s just been awoken. Lol trade one of our best player in his prime yeah ok let’s do it just to save some cash. Herr Doktor 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thanat0s 6,024 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 3 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said: We’d be far more inclined to draft Sewell and trade Matthews. That frees up more money than moving Grady This would be an interesting move. Jake has been good, but the savings, the draft pick, and having someone more athletic and cheaper at that spot for the next 5 years has to be lurking on some brainstorming board around the branch. RetroRoq 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconFanSince1970 24,841 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 4 hours ago, Someday soon said: https://overthecap.com/calculator/atlanta-falcons/ Still a long ways to go to get a full roster (need 12 more players that will add to our cap) and be under the cap. Something most here won't consider but trading Jarrett would gain an additional $11 million of space with a dead cap hit of $11 million. Year Games Played Games Missed Snaps Tackles Negative Plays Interceptions Fumbles TD Injured Healthy Defense Special Solo Assist Sacks Yards TFL QB Hits Pass Def. INT Yards Forced Rec. Yards 2015 15 1 0 25.6% 14.7% 13 11 1 5 4 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2016 16 0 0 56.6% 14.7% 21 27 3 18 4 9 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 2017 15 0 0 74.8% 17.9% 31 21 3 22 12 11 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2018 14 2 0 65.0% 14.5% 27 25 6 36 8 16 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 2019 16 0 0 77.7% 12.7% 38 31 7.5 49 12 16 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 2020 16 0 0 78.7% 13.3% 27 25 4 29.5 8 20 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 Bro. Trade Jarrett? He's arguably the best player on our roster. Are you serious? We need to extend him. He's just like his daddy Jessie Tuggle. A flat out as beater. Trust me. JDaveG and Herr Doktor 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconFanSince1970 24,841 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 5 hours ago, Snafu said: Far more likely that we end up extending Grady and/or converting some of his base salary this season to clear cap space. It's easy to manipulate the cap on a player you know you are gonna keep long-term. Yeah bro extend him and free up $10M. Herr Doktor and JDaveG 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Herr Doktor 9,836 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Trading Jarrett would be a bold, or eminently stupid move. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
New Jersey Falcon 127 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 14 hours ago, Someday soon said: https://overthecap.com/calculator/atlanta-falcons/ Still a long ways to go to get a full roster (need 12 more players that will add to our cap) and be under the cap. Something most here won't consider but trading Jarrett would gain an additional $11 million of space with a dead cap hit of $11 million. Year Games Played Games Missed Snaps Tackles Negative Plays Interceptions Fumbles TD Injured Healthy Defense Special Solo Assist Sacks Yards TFL QB Hits Pass Def. INT Yards Forced Rec. Yards 2015 15 1 0 25.6% 14.7% 13 11 1 5 4 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2016 16 0 0 56.6% 14.7% 21 27 3 18 4 9 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 2017 15 0 0 74.8% 17.9% 31 21 3 22 12 11 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2018 14 2 0 65.0% 14.5% 27 25 6 36 8 16 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 2019 16 0 0 77.7% 12.7% 38 31 7.5 49 12 16 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 2020 16 0 0 78.7% 13.3% 27 25 4 29.5 8 20 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 Cut Grady? Sheesh. We should extend him. Herr Doktor 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcndave 4,938 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 14 hours ago, ya_boi_j said: Why on earth would anyone consider trading one of the only key pieces on defense? It is a focus thing. Focus on managing the cap makes it a consideration. Focus on fielding a football team makes it unearthly to consider. I think a wholistic take is the talent gap such a move would create would actually negate any cap savings (the cost of the talent you need to find exceeds the increase in available cap after the move). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya_boi_j 69,024 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Just now, falcndave said: It is a focus thing. Focus on managing the cap makes it a consideration. Focus on fielding a football team makes it unearthly to consider. I think a wholistic take is the talent gap such a move would create would actually negate any cap savings (the cost of the talent you need to find exceeds the increase in available cap after the move). Yeah......no Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JCITOW 232 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 I thought the objective is to get under the cap in a smart and intelligent way—not just get under the cap. In my view, trading Grady just because the numbers work out would NOT be a wise move to get under the cap. Falcon918, Herr Doktor and Boise Falcon Fan 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Herr Doktor 9,836 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 18 minutes ago, JCITOW said: I thought the objective is to get under the cap in a smart and intelligent way—not just get under the cap. In my view, trading Grady just because the numbers work out would NOT be a wise move to get under the cap. No doubt!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Architect 793 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 A Fowler trade is more likely as it frees up 9 million in cap space. We'd be clowns to trade Grady. Falcon918 and JDaveG 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TTU Falcon 247 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 16 hours ago, ya_boi_j said: Why on earth would anyone consider trading one of the only key pieces on defense? God, I would trade in my fan card so quick. Talk about a move that would deflate the entire fandom in record time. ya_boi_j and celtiksage 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TTU Falcon 247 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 11 hours ago, FalconFanSince1970 said: Yeah bro extend him and free up $10M. LOL get rid of the only guy that you absolutely can't question has earned his paycheck. Boise Falcon Fan 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dirtybirds233 759 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Restructuring Matt and Julio alone puts us at $4M under the cap. Cutting Carpenter and restructuring Matthews and Fowler gets us to $22M. Draft class is projected to be about $11M, so we'll have another $11M left over. With only 31 non-PS players on the roster (38ish if you count the coming draft class), it's going to be quite the task to get to a 53 man roster with only $11M to do so. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dirtybirds233 759 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 36 minutes ago, The Architect said: A Fowler trade is more likely as it frees up 9 million in cap space. We'd be clowns to trade Grady. That's actually something I didn't think of. Not only that, it increases 2022 cap by nearly $20M Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RetroRoq 720 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 and yet... I want this FO to be open to the phone call that suggests this. Most all of the comments here really are in reaction to what the Falcons would lose if they traded Grady. But what could they get back? If you were Falcon GM, what would be your price for someone like Grady cause everybody has a price and there are at least 30 GMs out there that may be willing to make an offer. I mean the Texans put it out there what it would take to get Watson, whats the going rate for a Grady? Maybe Atlanta can live without Grady. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
autigerfan 1,013 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Carp looks like a goner with these numbers. I think we will see some other re-structures to free up cap space. Cutting Oliver actually costs us more money than we save so I think we find a way to salvage him with a move to safety being a possibility. Herr Doktor and FalconFanSince1970 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Long Shot 4,180 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 On 2/18/2021 at 5:29 PM, ya_boi_j said: Why on earth would anyone consider trading one of the only key pieces on defense? If we cut the whole team we can also free up some cap room. Herr Doktor, ATL Fan in the DMV, ya_boi_j and 1 other 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya_boi_j 69,024 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 1 minute ago, Dr Long Shot said: If we cut the whole team we can also free up some cap room. I bet the dead cap would be more than freed space 😂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ghosts of Glanville 3,592 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Trade Grady?? Reminds me of that scene in Apollo 13 when the guys in Houston are trying to figure out how to save enough electricity to power re-entry, and one of the engineers says “don’t open the parachutes” Herr Doktor 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kiwifalcon 19,869 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 On 2/20/2021 at 5:39 AM, RetroRoq said: and yet... I want this FO to be open to the phone call that suggests this. Most all of the comments here really are in reaction to what the Falcons would lose if they traded Grady. But what could they get back? If you were Falcon GM, what would be your price for someone like Grady cause everybody has a price and there are at least 30 GMs out there that may be willing to make an offer. I mean the Texans put it out there what it would take to get Watson, whats the going rate for a Grady? Maybe Atlanta can live without Grady. The reactions are like that because Jarretts the centre piece of the defense.Watson realistically isn’t happening everyone knows this they are on the hook with Ryan already so wanting and the Texans enquiring is just noise at this point. Watson is a bridge to far unless they were thinking about off loading all of there young talent Debo Ridley and alike aswell. Herr Doktor 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
celtiksage 3,349 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 1 hour ago, autigerfan said: Carp looks like a goner with these numbers. I think we will see some other re-structures to free up cap space. Cutting Oliver actually costs us more money than we save so I think we find a way to salvage him with a move to safety being a possibility. I think you're right on Carpenter. They might just wait and make him a post 1 Jun cut. I could see keeping or cutting Oliver. Davidson is the one that actually costs us to cut. Oliver is a dead cap of 323k but saves us 2.1 million. He might be another one after the draft, but cutting him now or later has no financial difference. Herr Doktor 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joey563 440 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 This aint Madden Yo... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boise Falcon Fan 4,143 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 On 2/18/2021 at 4:46 PM, PuppyMonster said: That's a bold move, Cotton. If that had a Meme HOF, that one should be in it. Funny as ****! JDaveG 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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