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1 hour ago, UnrealfalcoN said:

Not if we are looking at the "resources" dumped to add weapons for him. Aside from the probowl RBs, he had a probowl TE, 2 first rd WRs, traded for WRs Price and Lelie and OL picked in the first 3 rds.

Lelie and Price dont equal ridley and julio. Crumpler does not equate to Tony G either.

Vicks physical abilities allowed him to do more with less on offense, he covered for a lot of it with that alone.

 

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2 hours ago, red falcon said:

Lelie and Price dont equal ridley and julio. Crumpler does not equate to Tony G either.

Vicks physical abilities allowed him to do more with less on offense, he covered for a lot of it with that alone.

 

Doesn't matter how many skilled players you have when you suck in the trenches. Look at the last superbowl. The team that was best in the trenches won and Mahomes is a running QB who was only able to run backwards.

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32 minutes ago, jay1k2 said:

Doesn't matter how many skilled players you have when you suck in the trenches. Look at the last superbowl. The team that was best in the trenches won and Mahomes is a running QB who was only able to run backwards.

True, but you also have to consider the starting tackles for KC did not play. 

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20 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said:

Ryan has had plenty of resources pumped into his OL’s since 2015.  The OL is not the problem.  
 

 The issue boils down to one thing: piss-poor OC’s for 5 of the last 8 seasons.

The Falcons DL was top 5 in 2019 NFL cap hit.  Where are the sacks? Are you saying the 2019 DL wasn’t the problem? Lol. 

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19 hours ago, athell said:

Once again, you are wrong.  In his MVP season he was sacked the 2nd most out of any QB.  Just because he has resources pumped in, doesn't mean the resources were good and just like when he had a good OC, it doesn't correlate to lack of sacks.  There has always been holes in his lines and he has been one of the most sacked qb's in the league because of it.

I won't argue about poor coaching, but that's not only it.  Pass pro has been a problem most of Ryan's career, as has the run game, as has the defense.

But but cap. 

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