dodge_birds_fan 1,936 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 28 minutes ago, Mister pudding said: I think we should hire Abraham as a consultant. Then take him to a breeding farm to replicate those genes for Falcon generations to come! I've stumbled on videos on the dark corners of the web that resemble that..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
red falcon 4,968 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 1 hour ago, UnrealfalcoN said: Not if we are looking at the "resources" dumped to add weapons for him. Aside from the probowl RBs, he had a probowl TE, 2 first rd WRs, traded for WRs Price and Lelie and OL picked in the first 3 rds. Lelie and Price dont equal ridley and julio. Crumpler does not equate to Tony G either. Vicks physical abilities allowed him to do more with less on offense, he covered for a lot of it with that alone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JCITOW 227 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 1 hour ago, Mister pudding said: I think we should hire Abraham as a consultant. Then take him to a breeding farm to replicate those genes for Falcon generations to come! What is Abraham—a horse? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mister pudding 3,537 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 3 minutes ago, JCITOW said: What is Abraham—a horse? I think a stud is more applicable Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jay1k2 419 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 2 hours ago, red falcon said: Lelie and Price dont equal ridley and julio. Crumpler does not equate to Tony G either. Vicks physical abilities allowed him to do more with less on offense, he covered for a lot of it with that alone. Doesn't matter how many skilled players you have when you suck in the trenches. Look at the last superbowl. The team that was best in the trenches won and Mahomes is a running QB who was only able to run backwards. Herr Doktor and JohnnyFranchise 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
red falcon 4,968 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 32 minutes ago, jay1k2 said: Doesn't matter how many skilled players you have when you suck in the trenches. Look at the last superbowl. The team that was best in the trenches won and Mahomes is a running QB who was only able to run backwards. True, but you also have to consider the starting tackles for KC did not play. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 25,151 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 20 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said: Ryan has had plenty of resources pumped into his OL’s since 2015. The OL is not the problem. The issue boils down to one thing: piss-poor OC’s for 5 of the last 8 seasons. The Falcons DL was top 5 in 2019 NFL cap hit. Where are the sacks? Are you saying the 2019 DL wasn’t the problem? Lol. Herr Doktor 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 25,151 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 19 hours ago, athell said: Once again, you are wrong. In his MVP season he was sacked the 2nd most out of any QB. Just because he has resources pumped in, doesn't mean the resources were good and just like when he had a good OC, it doesn't correlate to lack of sacks. There has always been holes in his lines and he has been one of the most sacked qb's in the league because of it. I won't argue about poor coaching, but that's not only it. Pass pro has been a problem most of Ryan's career, as has the run game, as has the defense. But but cap. athell and Herr Doktor 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
athell 32,624 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 3 minutes ago, falcons007 said: But but cap. *CAP Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GrimeyKidd 1,455 Posted February 22 Author Share Posted February 22 On 2/19/2021 at 8:26 AM, red falcon said: One could also argue vick never had the weapons matt has. One could also argue this stat doesnt mention offense at all. Its purely about defense and its construction in both eras. JohnnyFranchise 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
red falcon 4,968 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 35 minutes ago, GrimeyKidd said: One could also argue this stat doesnt mention offense at all. Its purely about defense and its construction in both eras. True, stats can be subjective as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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