Summerhill 1,848 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Quote ATLANTA FALCONS: OFFENSIVE LINE DESPERATION IN 2019 The time to address offensive line needs is always, always, always before issues pop up. Forcing yourself into starting rookies along the offensive line can backfire mightily. The Falcons learned that the hard way when they “reached” on two first-round linemen by pretty much every major media evaluation (including ours). They left themselves no choice in the matter, though. As such, they’ve ranked 25th and 22nd the past two seasons in team pass-protection grade. https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-the-biggest-draft-mistake-for-each-team-in-the-past-5-years I don't totally disagree with this but don't think the explanation made the greatest case for it. I think the better explanation for why this was a mistake is because the Falcons went all out to pick Lindstrom and McGary in the 1st while some really good offensive linemen went well into the 2nd round who don't seem any worse. PokerSteve, Falconsailorman, Chitown2ATL_Falcon and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dodge_birds_fan 1,898 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Wow....I came in thinking Tak or Vic....But I guess Vic is also longer than 5 years out. VTCrunkler, Godzilla1985, Run 'n' Shoot and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Summerhill 1,848 Posted February 12 Author Share Posted February 12 6 minutes ago, dodge_birds_fan said: Wow....I came in thinking Tak or Vic....But I guess Vic is also longer than 5 years out. It's pretty hard to argue anything is worse than pick McKinley over TJ Watt when they played the same position and were mocked to go at the same spot. Matty ICE, CADirtyBird, blizzard_falcon and 11 others 10 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Geneaut 7,149 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Yeah this doesn't hold water. Lindstrom appears to be a **** good interior OL. Picking him and McGray over Takk just seems silly at this point. Clark Kent™, falconsd56, Stevo and 10 others 11 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Macknsweetjones 1,706 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 ********…Falcons won’t regret the Olinemen drafted in 2019..watch how they show out this season rugger8, mountain_jim3, VTCrunkler and 4 others 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rugger8 1,493 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 I feel like the blame for OL performance is going on the shoulders of the players, when it should be directed at Koetter. Koetter's system is really that bad. ATLskinjob, PapaJoe, red falcon and 5 others 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PriMeTiiMe 7,935 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 I thought for sure we were gonna go Brian Burns or Dexter Lawrence. That being said, Lindstrom is one of the best OGs in the NFL already and will likely be a rock on our O-Line for a decade. The real mess-up was trading up for McGary. Kaptain Krazy, Tim Mazetti, VTCrunkler and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rugger8 1,493 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 minute ago, PriMeTiiMe said: I thought for sure we were gonna go Brian Burns or Dexter Lawrence. That being said, Lindstrom is one of the best OGs in the NFL already and will likely be a rock on our O-Line for a decade. The real mess-up was trading up for McGary. The trade probably wasn't needed, but I still think he could pan out to be fine in Smith's system. Francis York Morgan, Herr Doktor and Stevo 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Smiler11 6,294 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Yeah I don't agree with this. Linemen aren't typically short-term fixes but more long-term investments. Next year will be the true litmus test for McGary and Lindstrom in a new offense and having to step up with Mack no longer here. In my opinion, they're going to look like pro bowlers under Smith. Takk has got to be the worst draft mistake we made. ATLskinjob 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconFanSince1969 15,762 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Investing in either line is never a mistake. Dr Long Shot, Herr Doktor and Clark Kent™ 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rings 7,585 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 I think taking Lindstrom wasn’t a mistake, I guess if looking at positional value you could make that argument. Trading up for McGary I can see for sure, but that was TD for you. I also agree trading you for Takk could have made the list as well. Herr Doktor 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Herr Doktor 8,694 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 25 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1969 said: Investing in either line is never a mistake. Preach Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Herr Doktor 8,694 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 23 minutes ago, Rings said: I think taking Lindstrom wasn’t a mistake, I guess if looking at positional value you could make that argument. Trading up for McGary I can see for sure, but that was TD for you. I also agree trading you for Takk could have made the list as well. Takk had to be the worst. And it's just sad. Injured in college, essentially stayed hurt, never really learned how to play end and lived in anger and athleticism only. A waste. vitaman and JDaveG 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Geaux_Falcons 1,219 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 9 hours ago, dodge_birds_fan said: Wow....I came in thinking Tak or Vic....But I guess Vic is also longer than 5 years out. Takk over Watt maybe, but Vic at least gave us some glimmer of hope. I think the OL bonanza was more of the correct logic for the premise of the article. Went OL heavy after signing two guards beforehand to decent money. Lindstrom was worthy of his selection, but Mcgary might have been the avoided if we at least used the money on the guards to get our RT. That alone probably allows us to go with 2 other players by never trading up or bare minimum, take a different player after trading up. Still don't think it was that big of a deal, but I see why they felt it was. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 24,965 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Trading up to get McGary was for fifth year option. I will wait for AS to evaluate and decide on McGary. Let’s see how he does with a good coach. Clark Kent™, Herr Doktor, Cheap Talk and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dodge_birds_fan 1,898 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 44 minutes ago, Geaux_Falcons said: Takk over Watt maybe, but Vic at least gave us some glimmer of hope. I think the OL bonanza was more of the correct logic for the premise of the article. Went OL heavy after signing two guards beforehand to decent money. Lindstrom was worthy of his selection, but Mcgary might have been the avoided if we at least used the money on the guards to get our RT. That alone probably allows us to go with 2 other players by never trading up or bare minimum, take a different player after trading up. Still don't think it was that big of a deal, but I see why they felt it was. Yeah, makes sense through that lens. Never understood the Carpenter/Brown signings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jpg428gggg 1,689 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 I think Takk was the biggest mistake we made. I still have hope for our offensive line now that we have a coaching staff that understands how to get the most out of your players. rugger8 and Ergo Proxy 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dem Birds 10,794 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Garbage take. Chris Morgan is gone so now we should see some more development VTCrunkler, rugger8 and Herr Doktor 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ghosts of Glanville 3,523 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Lindstrom a worse pick than Takk???? Not in this dimension of the universe rugger8, Ergo Proxy, Herr Doktor and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ergo Proxy 26,135 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 hour ago, Dem Birds said: Garbage take. Chris Morgan is gone so now we should see some more development He was a pure zone coach. You meant Dirk, too, right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 24,965 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 hour ago, Ghosts of Glanville said: Lindstrom a worse pick than Takk???? Not in this dimension of the universe PFF said Falcons 2016 draft was worse in the NFL. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ergo Proxy 26,135 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 2 hours ago, Jpg428gggg said: I think Takk was the biggest mistake we made. I still have hope for our offensive line now that we have a coaching staff that understands how to get the most out of your players. 2017 draft in of itself was hands down our worst in recent years. Just bad. Attacking the value of our 2019 draft because of Dirk being a bad fit for Atlanta is just an easy grab. In 2017, we traded up for Takk then took Duke. Best of the rest? Brian Hill. That’s it. Harlow is barely hanging around as a scrub and Saubert is out of the league possibly. Maybe Takk produces if he wasn’t injury prone. Mentally weak tho. TJ was so obvious... Lindstrom is on his way to being All Pro caliber. McGary improved year 2; again for stressful system under Dirk. TBD on Sheffield or Cominsky with new coaching staff but the OL should be fine with Smith. Still waiting on that franchise caliber DE.. 2017 is the only draft we basically have almost no value remaining from; unless Hill goes off or Harlow suddenly does something. vitaman 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
atljbo 21,807 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 PFF has Lindstrom (who is a good *** guard) the 9th graded Guard this year but they think he is a reach ? Clark Kent™, Atlantafan21, vitaman and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dem Birds 10,794 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 5 hours ago, Ergo Proxy said: He was a pure zone coach. You meant Dirk, too, right? That'll definitely help put guys in better situations but Morgan seemed to fail to develop anyone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blizzard_falcon 2,450 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 The 2017 draft of Takk and Riley is WAY worse BlazerSlayer 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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