xSICKxWITHxITx 3,540 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 2 hours ago, celtiksage said: True. He's not what he used to be. Still the baddest, coolest cat H-Town has ever known. He'll look beastly in green and gold. He'd also be better than anything we have, unfortunately. Grady all day long Quote Link to post Share on other sites
egoprime II 2,785 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 3 hours ago, msjacob25 said: 3 hours ago, thanat0s said: Ugh. Falcons timing. A guy who could literally fix our pass rush problems (and other issues) on defense from day one, and we have no money to go after him. smh... 3 hours ago, Brewcrew said: It depends if Terry brought some of that Saints cap voodoo with him. They seem to worm their way out of cap **** and sign big dollar contracts every year for the past ten years. 3 hours ago, DonOfThemBirds said: He'd be worth the gamble despite not being able to stay healthy in recent years. But Arthur Smith and Terry Fontenot would have to sell him on a instant turnaround. Fire up the jet Blank! There is one team that has been snapping up the premium name free agents lately.... the Super Bowl champs. Watt Suh and JPP together with Barrett White Winfield.... ugh! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Herr Doktor 8,318 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 14 minutes ago, AxManBigFan said: It was him and bartu lol god our defense was horrible....we’ll still is Two undrafted linebackers as starters for several years. 😔 Then we drafted three the following year and none stuck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
insight 1,920 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) 45 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1969 said: And the money that was moved to this year can just as easily be moved to another year. We can extend grady and spread the hit out into years where the cap goes up as expected. Again, the cap is easy to manipulate. Stop being a doomer. Its not healthy. Why would a new staff and GM want to handicap themselves by restructuring older players making them untradeable moving forward. Grady and Debo will have to be restructured and Neal and Rico will need to be cut just to get under the cap. It's a short sided and a DUMB way to build a team when you are not close to competing for a Super bowl. You also expose yourself up to eating a large amount of money if they a player is injured. Those are the facts, sorry it hurts your feelings to hear the truth but I have no problems with it. I'm sure Arthur Smith will not pretend they do not have difficult roster and cap issues to deal with moving forward. Edited February 12 by insight Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonOfThemBirds 19,061 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 11 minutes ago, insight said: Why would a new staff and GM want to handicap themselves by restructuring older players making them untradeable moving forward. Grady and Debo will have to be restructured and Neal and Rico will need to be cut just to get under the cap. It's a short sided and a DUMB way to build a team when you are not close to competing for a Super bowl. You also expose yourself up to eating a large amount of money if they a player is injured. Those are the facts, sorry it hurts your feelings to hear the truth but I have no problems with it. I'm sure Arthur Smith will not pretend they do not have difficult roster and cap issues to deal with moving forward. Neal is a FA Herr Doktor 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
insight 1,920 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 5 minutes ago, DonOfThemBirds said: Neal is a FA You are correct, Neal is a free agent, unlike Rico. Alan Baily is who I was think about. Thix for correcting the record. DonOfThemBirds 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thanat0s 5,196 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 50 minutes ago, egoprime II said: There is one team that has been snapping up the premium name free agents lately.... the Super Bowl champs. Watt Suh and JPP together with Barrett White Winfield.... ugh! JUST STOP!!!! 😩😩😩😩😩 egoprime II 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Killing Floor 1,004 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 4 hours ago, RYNE said: Lol... he ain’t coming here. Not in a million years OK, I "liked" but I don't. You're right. Not likely. But it's sure fun to think about it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RYNE 6,097 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 minute ago, Killing Floor said: OK, I "liked" but I don't. You're right. Not likely. But it's sure fun to think about it. Oh it’d be great. Killing Floor 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyFranchise 2,621 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 LOL at all the dipsh*ts who said that houston was a far more desireable HC/GM opening than the falcons because of one player. AUTiger7222, falcons007, Mr.11 and 4 others 3 2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Herr Doktor 8,318 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 2 minutes ago, JohnnyFranchise said: LOL at all the dipsh*ts who said that houston was a far more desireable HC/GM opening than the falcons because of one player. Truth! They literally have Watson. DeShaun must be just livid. marvinthemartian and JohnnyFranchise 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Killing Floor 1,004 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 minute ago, Herr Doktor said: Truth! They literally have Watson. DeShaun must be just livid. Guarantee Watson either forces a release (his contract makes that possible) or he sandbags or doesn't show up at camp. I bet against him ever suiting up there. One thing to lose and have have your weapons stripped. But he's more angry about being misled. I think it's personal with him. Too bad. You want to win games but unless it's the Saints you really don't want to see a team tail spin, it's not good for the game. Herr Doktor 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 24,347 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 14 minutes ago, Killing Floor said: Guarantee Watson either forces a release (his contract makes that possible) or he sandbags or doesn't show up at camp. I bet against him ever suiting up there. One thing to lose and have have your weapons stripped. But he's more angry about being misled. I think it's personal with him. Too bad. You want to win games but unless it's the Saints you really don't want to see a team tail spin, it's not good for the game. There you go. Watson wasn’t misled. He made business decision by knowing what he was getting in to it by signing the extension. He wanted guaranteed deal for injuries, he got it snd now trying to bail out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AUTiger7222 7,673 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 4 hours ago, falconsd56 said: He is still a good player....but I would not call him dominant. I saw a couple texan games.....their defense was terrible and he is not the guy that he was....and to be fair after 10 years , very few guys are what they were. Great man, still a good player but he is not the "answer" to fixing the defense. 4 hours ago, ya_boi_j said: I don’t know what you watched but the games I watched, I saw a man that could still have his way in a one on one matchup with ease J is correct. J.J. Watt is still a great player and very dominant. ESPN has a stat called win rate. Basically it's how often a man beats the man in front of him in a 1-on-1 matchup in 2.5 seconds or less. J.J. Watt ranked at 22%, tied with Chase Young for 7th best in the NFL among edge rushers. Edge Rushers T.J. Watt - 29% Jerry Hughes - 29% Myles Garrett - 26% Brian Burns - 25% Joey Bosa - 25% Justin Houston - 25% Chase Young - 22% J.J. Watt - 22% Harold Landry - 22% DeMarcus Lawrence - 21% Inside Lineman Aaron Donald - 24% Chris Jones - 20% Grady Jarrett - 19% Quinnen Williams - 17% William Gholston - 15% Javon Hargrave - 15% Jonathan Allen - 13% Stephen Tuitt - 13% Quinton Jefferson - 13% David Onyemata - 13% https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29939464/2020-nfl-pass-rushing-run-stopping-blocking-leaderboard-win-rate-rankings Francis York Morgan, Atlantafan21 and ya_boi_j 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AxManBigFan 409 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 hour ago, Herr Doktor said: Two undrafted linebackers as starters for several years. 😔 Then we drafted three the following year and none stuck. You know, I think we ball out this come year. Dean pees gets us an average defense. Provide Matt with a run heavy play action system and we’re dangerous AUTiger7222 and Herr Doktor 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Killing Floor 1,004 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 8 minutes ago, falcons007 said: There you go. Watson wasn’t misled. He made business decision by knowing what he was getting in to it by signing the extension. He wanted guaranteed deal for injuries, he got it snd now trying to bail out. I’m not referring to a Hopkins trade, etc. He was specifically told he would have direct input in coaching replacement decisions. The process was done mostly in secret without his input. That is what I mean. McNair lied to him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 24,347 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 3 minutes ago, Killing Floor said: I’m not referring to a Hopkins trade, etc. He was specifically told he would have direct input in coaching replacement decisions. The process was done mostly in secret without his input. That is what I mean. McNair lied to him. That’s just an excuse. He wanted out for other reasons before they even looked for GM. Like I said, it’s business decision back in September. The only bailing out reason which got hyped was GM search, it wasn’t the first either. Watson made the bed, he has to deal with it. You can’t sign a deal 3-4 months earlier and then start talking about leaving by end of the season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Killing Floor 1,004 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 hour ago, falcons007 said: That’s just an excuse. He wanted out for other reasons before they even looked for GM. Like I said, it’s business decision back in September. The only bailing out reason which got hyped was GM search, it wasn’t the first either. Watson made the bed, he has to deal with it. You can’t sign a deal 3-4 months earlier and then start talking about leaving by end of the season. You can if you’re Watson. Whomever he moves “up” to will play in a conference ship or better. And he knows it. And the league knows it. My point is he only wants to win. He wants to win more than he wants the money. You don’t have to agree for it to be true Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marvinthemartian 5,398 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 He isn’t what he used to be but I would take him in a heartbeat. Herr Doktor 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 24,347 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 2 minutes ago, Killing Floor said: You can if you’re Watson. Whomever he moves “up” to will play in a conference ship or better. And he knows it. And the league knows it. My point is he only wants to win. He wants to win more than he wants the money. You don’t have to agree for it to be true BS. Watson should have never signed the deal if he cared about winning. No one put a gun on his head to sign a 4 year deal and cash in 27M bonus check with a dysfunctional team. He could have walked out easily, Texans with out 27M dead cap could have been more open to trading. Like I said, it was a business decision to sign the contract knowing the coach was week to week and locker room was a cancer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ghosts of Glanville 3,517 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 The only way we get Watt is if he’s changing flights at Hartsfield and all airlines spontaneously go out of business Green Bay is my bet Killing Floor, Ergo Proxy, Francis York Morgan and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mattyicefalcon 4,577 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 3 hours ago, Sun Tzu 7 said: Yeah sure, let's make Ryan's cap hit over 45 million for the next few seasons and Julio around 30 million. Who cares if we don't know if Julio can play at a high level anymore. Julio is like Larry Fitz/ Calvin Johnson Hes gonna be Falcons for life. Even if he plays 50% of games he's gonna make others around him better. But, I agree at what cost $? Tough decisions for new coach and G.M Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jesus 26,499 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Sign him now. Like yesterday now. Get it done Terry. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marvinthemartian 5,398 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Just now, Jesus said: Sign him now. Like yesterday now. Get it done Terry. I concur Jesus 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falconsd56 26,525 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 He is going to ring chase....and I don't blame him. He does not want to rebuild...so we are out. He's going to be either a Packer or a Steeler one of the two. Francis York Morgan, Killing Floor and Ergo Proxy 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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