Refried Beans 1,505 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 This dude will be available late first round and is an absolute menace. University of Pittsburg is a D-line machine. Narduzzi, the head coach keeps churning out NFL D-linemen. Just like Alabama with WRs and RBs, University of Pittsburg is the well to go to for D-line help. Falcster, JohnnyFranchise and falcons007 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lornoth 12,247 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 To be honest I think he's the best passrusher this draft. That's not saying much, and I think he'd have to grow into a 3-down player, but I'm interested. falcons007, Refried Beans, me4falcons and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Refried Beans 1,505 Posted February 11 Author Share Posted February 11 1 minute ago, Lornoth said: To be honest I think he's the best passrusher this draft. That's not saying much, and I think he'd have to grow into a 3-down player, but I'm interested. 2 inches taller than Beasley and 20 pounds heavier. I agree he is a hidden gem and the real deal. He would be worth trading back into the 1st round to get if Najee Harris is gone. Shades of J Peppers with his height. PokerSteve and JohnnyFranchise 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ovie_Lover 29,825 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 How is Pitt the university for pass rushers? Donald make them that now? falcons007 and mtldirtybird 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
runshoot 1,383 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 oh...oh no..is that a highlight reel? Whew, 4 or 5 sacks came from the QB running into him not the other way around. Yikes. NashvilleFalcon01 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 24,668 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 The question to all of you who follow players. This guy looks good but how deep is the. Draft at Edge? How much is the difference between this guy and say some one in 2-4 rounds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CTann 2,823 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Hoping we can get either him, Jaelan Phillips, Joseph Ossai, Jayson Oweh, Carlos Basham, Hamilcar Rashed Jr, or Chris Rumph. Another name to check out, as a much later sleeper, is Malcolm Koonce from Buffalo. JohnnyFranchise 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PriMeTiiMe 7,925 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 20 minutes ago, falcons007 said: The question to all of you who follow players. This guy looks good but how deep is the. Draft at Edge? How much is the difference between this guy and say some one in 2-4 rounds. It lacks top end rushers but theirs a lot of guys that are round 2-4 prospects (Jones being one of them) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
isproab 2,012 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 I think he should be a target of ours. Jones is my second favorite. I like Carlos Basham due to the size. I think the Covid season threw him and his production off, but still not a bad year. With his body of work I just can't see him not going in the 1st. If he somehow makes it to 35, Falcons should be all over him. Jones would be my second guy if he is available in round 2. Really intrigued by Ellerson Smith of Northern Iowa. Looked really skinny before he showed up at the Senior Bowl. Had a good game, didn't seem bothered by the jump in competition. Beast-N-Da-Sheetz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 24,668 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 13 minutes ago, PriMeTiiMe said: It lacks top end rushers but theirs a lot of guys that are round 2-4 prospects (Jones being one of them) That’s better IMO. Grab one during those rounds if the guys are similar round to round. Use the higher draft picks for other players. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PriMeTiiMe 7,925 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 1 minute ago, falcons007 said: That’s better IMO. Grab one during those rounds if the guys are similar round to round. Use the higher draft picks for other players. I think the only 1st round edge rushers will be Rousseau, Paye and Azeez and honestly all scare me for different reasons. If I had a gun to my head I would probably take Azeez. Ronnie Perkins and Tarron Jackson are nice potential sleepers. Quincy Roche had a down year after transferring but the talent is there. Lots of guys to watch in that 2-4ish range. falcons007 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rcky_mtn_falcon 1,591 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 36 minutes ago, CTann said: Hoping we can get either him, Jaelan Phillips, Joseph Ossai, Jayson Oweh, Carlos Basham, Hamilcar Rashed Jr, or Chris Rumph. Another name to check out, as a much later sleeper, is Malcolm Koonce from Buffalo. Payton Turner out of Houston is my sleeper pick for the edge. Doug Carlton 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Summerhill 1,846 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 I just watched Jones' tape vs Miami. I see a pretty good burst when he gets after it and isn't playing read and react looking for a run. I see some pretty good slipperiness when it comes to turning the corner. He has some bend. I see he's not very active with his hands. He doesn't do much to disengage with blockers when they get ahold of him. I see he has some strength in his bullrush. I see he looks fairly skinny to me. I think his frame could easily hold another 10 lbs. I would certainly consider him in the 2nd or 3rd or wherever. Refried Beans and niels petersen 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kiwifalcon 19,762 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Thee edge class is dog pooh full stop inside and out there’s just not much there this year.There are a few guys I’d look at but I’m not really enthused by any of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
niels petersen 330 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 16 hours ago, Summerhill said: I just watched Jones' tape vs Miami. I see a pretty good burst when he gets after it and isn't playing read and react looking for a run. I see some pretty good slipperiness when it comes to turning the corner. He has some bend. I see he's not very active with his hands. He doesn't do much to disengage with blockers when they get ahold of him. I see he has some strength in his bullrush. I see he looks fairly skinny to me. I think his frame could easily hold another 10 lbs. I would certainly consider him in the 2nd or 3rd or wherever. Agree with all of this. I think he has potential, but will need to be coached up with some moves and hand techniques. I wish he had a veteran edge pass rusher who could teach him that. Maybe Jarrett can be a mentor? Refried Beans and Summerhill 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ike barn87987 1,771 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 17 hours ago, CTann said: Hoping we can get either him, Jaelan Phillips, Joseph Ossai, Jayson Oweh, Carlos Basham, Hamilcar Rashed Jr, or Chris Rumph. Another name to check out, as a much later sleeper, is Malcolm Koonce from Buffalo. With coach Goethie added to the staff from Duke, we could possibly take Rumph 3rd rd. CTann 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KCFalcon22 904 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 I like PJones in the 3rd if we don't select Phillips in the 2nd. What size is Jones? I like the kid a lot but sometimes he plays a little high out of his stance, other than that I can't find another reason to NOT like him. I haven't researched the other ends as much. How is Oweh, I noticed he is ranked higher? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PriMeTiiMe 7,925 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Just now, KCFalcon22 said: I like PJones in the 3rd if we don't select Phillips in the 2nd. What size is Jones? I like the kid a lot but sometimes he plays a little high out of his stance, other than that I can't find another reason to NOT like him. I haven't researched the other ends as much. How is Oweh, I noticed he is ranked higher? 6'5 260 KCFalcon22 and Refried Beans 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KCFalcon22 904 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Just now, PriMeTiiMe said: 6'5 260 Thanks my man. He doesn't fully, but almost looks likes Clowney on film sometimes. Not as fast (not as much bend on the corner) but that initial explosion reminds me of him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Summerhill 1,846 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 35 minutes ago, KCFalcon22 said: Thanks my man. He doesn't fully, but almost looks likes Clowney on film sometimes. Not as fast (not as much bend on the corner) but that initial explosion reminds me of him. The upright body type does seem similar. KCFalcon22 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faithful Falcon 8,200 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 22 hours ago, Refried Beans said: 2 inches taller than Beasley and 20 pounds heavier. I agree he is a hidden gem and the real deal. He would be worth trading back into the 1st round to get if Najee Harris is gone. Shades of J Peppers with his height. Usually I don't do this, but since you brought up his name. Question is, what happened? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigjmw84 382 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Lack of passion for the game. He had the tools to be a menace, but didn't improve his strength or add any significant pass rush moves. Add the passion/effort and he is somewhere between Robert Mathis and Von Miller Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chiko4theWin 25 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 **** No.. That was one of the weakest HIGHLIGHT tapes I've seen. Looks like the talent in this draft (There will always be hidden gems) is at the DT position. His line mate Jaylen Twyman is the better prospect. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
youngbloodz 16,357 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 7 hours ago, KCFalcon22 said: I like PJones in the 3rd if we don't select Phillips in the 2nd. What size is Jones? I like the kid a lot but sometimes he plays a little high out of his stance, other than that I can't find another reason to NOT like him. I haven't researched the other ends as much. How is Oweh, I noticed he is ranked higher? You won’t get Phillips in the 2nd. Dude will blow up the Miami Pro Day KCFalcon22 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fernando C. 1,172 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 6 hours ago, Faithful Falcon said: Usually I don't do this, but since you brought up his name. Question is, what happened? No desire to be great... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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