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I will drive Stocker to the airport.

Just my opinion, you don't want to cut everyone, but you have to be brutal and have the intestinal fortitude to cut bait and move to a better player.  It's football and business.

I'd drop him off but he's done enough dropping.

I hate the thought of Neal coming back here and starting. He is very average at best now and never anywhere near as good as some proclaim.

More mediocre safety's. Just bring Rico back to because he is as pointless to bring back as Neal.

Never seen ball skills worse that this guy. 

Just a speculation piece, like the QB's, so no point in getting carried away. 5th year option was a mistake, so lets double down.

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My list of keeps based on their contracts from last year and me expecting them to be something close to it or us needing a player like them if possible would be.

Harris - Should be cheap and showed a little heart and upside. 
Neal - Maybe if wen can afford it his health has been an issue but he played well this year and a full season.  Would like him back but if he wants big loot then he can walk and i'll use that loot elsewhere.
Wreh-Wilson - Easy yes he is cheap and always does great for us would be dumb not to bring him back.
McCray - Yes if he is on a lower salary cap hit.  Anything above 2 mil and im good i think he can be replaced.
Dennard - Easy yes again as wen healthy he played very well for us and made chump change.  If we can get him back for something similar to last year contract wise we jump on it.
Means - Same as Harris don't see why not and cheap.
Treadwell - Thought he meshed well with the WR core and could be even better with another year with the guys out there and should be super cheap.
Koo - Don't even think about not keeping him.

Kazee and Stocker i will personally hand them their pink slip myself and escort them off the premises and lock the gate behind them.  Keep both of them as far away from Flowery Branch as possible please and thank you.

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6 hours ago, Goober Pyle said:

he could start filling that role with a trial-by-fire approach in 2021

That would be a horrible idea whether they stick with Ryan (which I hope they do) or any other quarterback. This would be a good way to put your QB on the IR for weeks if not forever. I hope they bring Mack back.

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I'd say Neal should be brought back on a fair deal. Not saying someone won't try to lure him away, but if if he wants to stay and take something a little less, then do it.

Mack would have to be a sweetheart deal. You drafted Hennessy, so let him take over. Henn will probably look a lot better with a better scheme in place. Another year in the league will only come with growth and development anyway.

Blidi deserves to be kept. Dude always makes a big interception when he plays.

The rest, I say either upgrade with talent or go cheaper. All of them really didn't cost much, so finding a better talent is probably the route we should go.

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Does anyone actually see Rico being on this team next season? I think its much more likely he gets released (believe it saves 6mil with a little over 2mil in dead cap). He has just NOT played up to his contract and I would be much more inclined to have Neal back. I think Neal becomes kind of a "Joker" spot for the defense. 

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5 minutes ago, DirtyBird2 said:

Does anyone actually see Rico being on this team next season? I think its much more likely he gets released (believe it saves 6mil with a little over 2mil in dead cap). He has just NOT played up to his contract and I would be much more inclined to have Neal back. I think Neal becomes kind of a "Joker" spot for the defense. 

I don't want to see Neal, Rico, or Kazee on the roster next year.

Rico is just too slow to play the position. Kazee is undisciplined and his negative traits outweigh his positives, and Neal is just not a safety anymore(or a LB). Good in the box player, but he makes WillyMo look like a good coverage safety and that is saying something. Big hits make fan favorites, not good players necessarily and certainly over-rated ones. 

Neal in his prime was above average, not elite as some have suggested, not even close. Poor man's Chancellor that never came close to the player he was "supposed" to be. Good safety in run support, but equally bad, if not worse, when it comes to coverage and ball skills. Nothing he put on tape last year shows any sort of improvement in coverage and ball skills or awareness. Just take the Tampa game for example...4 and 1 and that when you get your interception?? Terrible awareness, wound up being like a30 yard swing because he simply has no clue.

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4 minutes ago, PointSwayzee said:

I don't want to see Neal, Rico, or Kazee on the roster next year.

Rico is just too slow to play the position. Kazee is undisciplined and his negative traits outweigh his positives, and Neal is just not a safety anymore(or a LB). Good in the box player, but he makes WillyMo look like a good coverage safety and that is saying something. Big hits make fan favorites, not good players necessarily and certainly over-rated ones. 

Neal in his prime was above average, not elite as some have suggested, not even close. Poor man's Chancellor that never came close to the player he was "supposed" to be. Good safety in run support, but equally bad, if not worse, when it comes to coverage and ball skills. Nothing he put on tape last year shows any sort of improvement in coverage and ball skills or awareness. Just take the Tampa game for example...4 and 1 and that when you get your interception?? Terrible awareness, wound up being like a30 yard swing because he simply has no clue.

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You can argue players make plays like this in every game, doesnt mean they have terrible awareness. The guy was coming off back-to-back season ending injuries and was just rounding into form, I really can't blame the dude for wanting to make a play there. Its not like that game was a win and in/lose and out game. 

Never thought of him as an Elite coverage but he has shown the ability to make plays in the run and pass game. I think with a better FS and pass rush, Neal could do wonders with Pees. 

Im not saying sign him long term but if we can get a one or two year "prove it" deal and see where he is after a full HEALTHY season, it wouldnt be the worst option. 

Out of Neal and Rico, who would you rather have for one or two more years? Ill take Neal everyday with a competent defense and a rangy FS (this safety class is deep and I can see us going that route with our second pick, most of them, if not all, could still be there. Except for maybe Holland.)

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Neal should not be brought back.  I like the guy but there are three reasons to just let him go:

1.  He is an injury waiting to happen.  History speaks for itself.

2.  Quinn is the DC in Dallas and will be pounding the table for him (fast and furious).  Dallas will out-bid us.

3.  Neal can't cover well enough.  He is a liability.

 

Mack is a more complicated story.  Hennessey was drafted to take over from Mack, but we have not seen enough of him to sign off on the move.  The thought of having Henn at Center and possibly a rookie next to him at LG is a major concern.  

Although I would like to keep him for another season, I think the Mack issue will take care of itself.  I see Mack in a Niner uniform next season.  

Means is a keeper.  I don't think he will be hot in FA, so bringing him back makes sense.  Treadwell is probably a good back up, so I would retain him as well.  

Gurley is done.  There is no way I would sign him and let him take a roster spot from someone that might develop into a starter.  Sorry, man, the knees are not there.  

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13 hours ago, celtiksage said:

So does Jonnu Smith who's a free agent. And Swaim as well. They can both replace him. They're FAs.

I'd love to see the Falcons get Jonnu Smith, but his market value is apparently around $8M/year so I just don't see that happening.

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