athell 32,624 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-ranking-eight-last-place-nfl-teams-worst-to-first-2021 #1 was SF but for all the doomers resigned to the fate that the Falcons will suck again next year...say it with me...COACHING MATTERS! 2. ATLANTA FALCONS There are a few things working in the Falcons’ favor when it comes to a potential worst-to-first swing in 2021. The first is that they were not as bad this past season as their record indicates. Despite earning the fourth overall pick in the 2021 NFL Draft, Atlanta actually finished the year at 18th in PFF’s ELO Power Ratings. The second is that a perennial powerhouse in the division — the New Orleans Saints — could be primed to take a step back following Drew Brees‘ retirement and an offseason with plenty of question marks when it comes to the salary cap on the horizon. Offensively, the Falcons have the firepower to compete with teams. Even if Atlanta drafts a quarterback in the first round, Matt Ryan is unlikely to go anywhere next season, and he showed in 2020 he can still play, posting an 83.1 PFF grade that ranked 12th at the position. A healthy Julio Jones paired with Calvin Ridley and an offensive line that has several younger players who should continue to improve is not a bad foundation around Ryan. Atlanta will be hopeful new head coach Arthur Smith is able to bring over some of the magic he worked in Tennessee, as well. Only the Kansas City Chiefs and Green Bay Packers have recorded more expected points added per play than Tennessee since Smith took over as the offensive coordinator in 2019. Add in Dean Pees out of retirement at defensive coordinator, and there are reasons to be excited about this new-look coaching staff. Of course, the reigning Super Bowl champions will be standing in Atlanta’s way, but there are pieces in place for the Falcons to find success in 2021. falcons007, wnyfalconfan, Rings and 6 others 6 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BroadwayBlueBleeder 1,166 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 1 hour ago, athell said: https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-ranking-eight-last-place-nfl-teams-worst-to-first-2021 #1 was SF but for all the doomers resigned to the fate that the Falcons will suck again next year...say it with me...COACHING MATTERS! 2. ATLANTA FALCONS There are a few things working in the Falcons’ favor when it comes to a potential worst-to-first swing in 2021. The first is that they were not as bad this past season as their record indicates. Despite earning the fourth overall pick in the 2021 NFL Draft, Atlanta actually finished the year at 18th in PFF’s ELO Power Ratings. The second is that a perennial powerhouse in the division — the New Orleans Saints — could be primed to take a step back following Drew Brees‘ retirement and an offseason with plenty of question marks when it comes to the salary cap on the horizon. Offensively, the Falcons have the firepower to compete with teams. Even if Atlanta drafts a quarterback in the first round, Matt Ryan is unlikely to go anywhere next season, and he showed in 2020 he can still play, posting an 83.1 PFF grade that ranked 12th at the position. A healthy Julio Jones paired with Calvin Ridley and an offensive line that has several younger players who should continue to improve is not a bad foundation around Ryan. Atlanta will be hopeful new head coach Arthur Smith is able to bring over some of the magic he worked in Tennessee, as well. Only the Kansas City Chiefs and Green Bay Packers have recorded more expected points added per play than Tennessee since Smith took over as the offensive coordinator in 2019. Add in Dean Pees out of retirement at defensive coordinator, and there are reasons to be excited about this new-look coaching staff. Of course, the reigning Super Bowl champions will be standing in Atlanta’s way, but there are pieces in place for the Falcons to find success in 2021. Sacrilege, you know Matt Ryan is not good, the world knows Matt Ryan is not good, we need to load up on QBs and keep the best one! To **** with the draft! JDaveG, falcons007, Boise Falcon Fan and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 25,031 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 If 2008 Falcons, 2017 Rams, 2017 Eagles and Bills could turn it around quickly. I have no doubts Falcons can turn it around quickly in 2021. If TF and AS are as good as we think, this should be a playoff team. athell, JohnnyFranchise, falconsd56 and 4 others 6 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 25,031 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 14 minutes ago, DirtyBird2 said: Sacrilege, you know Matt Ryan is not good, the world knows Matt Ryan is not good, we need to load up on QBs and keep the best one! To **** with the draft! You know if it was other QB, you would hear excuses like his Number 1 WR was banged up for most of the season and missed multiple games. But that doesn’t apply to Ryan. Boise Falcon Fan, UnrealfalcoN, Herr Doktor and 3 others 3 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
athell 32,624 Posted February 10 Author Share Posted February 10 3 minutes ago, falcons007 said: You know if it was other QB, you would here excuses like his Number 1 WR was banged up for most of the season and missed multiple games. But that doesn’t apply to Ryan. Herr Doktor, falcons007, BroadwayBlueBleeder and 3 others 4 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 25,031 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 4 minutes ago, athell said: True. People still bring up 2019 SB win. Like it was Mahomes who had a great performance. If Ryan had won SB with 78 rating, folks would club him with Trent Dilfer coz he didn’t play good and team won him the ring. Herr Doktor, BroadwayBlueBleeder and athell 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
athell 32,624 Posted February 10 Author Share Posted February 10 2 minutes ago, falcons007 said: True. People still bring up 2019 SB win. Like it was Mahomes who had a great performance. If Ryan had won SB with 78 rating, folks would club him with Trent Dilfer coz he didn’t play good and team won him the ring. You mean the Damien Williams SB MVP snub game? Yea... BroadwayBlueBleeder and falcons007 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BroadwayBlueBleeder 1,166 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 12 minutes ago, falcons007 said: You know if it was other QB, you would hear excuses like his Number 1 WR was banged up for most of the season and missed multiple games. But that doesn’t apply to Ryan. Absolute truth or if you try to point out that even Mahomes had issues in the SB due to the ineffectiveness of his line you get bashed because Ryan isnt on the same level of Mahomes 🙄 Herr Doktor, falcons007 and athell 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 25,031 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 2 minutes ago, athell said: You mean the Damien Williams SB MVP snub game? Yea... Yeah. the narrative would be Ryan is a bum, it was Williams who won the SB. Atlantafan21 and athell 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyFranchise 2,665 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 i agree with that ranking. not because i think we're going from worst to first (although i do expect us to be in the wildcard hunt), but because we DO have a better chance than all of those other teams. Herr Doktor 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PriMeTiiMe 7,938 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 17 minutes ago, falcons007 said: True. People still bring up 2019 SB win. Like it was Mahomes who had a great performance. If Ryan had won SB with 78 rating, folks would club him with Trent Dilfer coz he didn’t play good and team won him the ring. Even if we won with his actual statline (Say we kick the FG after the Julio catch), It would have been Alford or Julio won us the SB lol JohnnyFranchise, falcons007 and Herr Doktor 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 25,031 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 3 minutes ago, PriMeTiiMe said: Even if we won with his actual statline (Say we kick the FG after the Julio catch), It would have been Alford or Julio won us the SB lol Lol. But seriously I would have loved to see Grady as CoMVP with Ryan, if Falcons kicked that **** FG. Grady had a great game and gave everything. PriMeTiiMe and falconsd56 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
athell 32,624 Posted February 10 Author Share Posted February 10 5 minutes ago, PriMeTiiMe said: Even if we won with his actual statline (Say we kick the FG after the Julio catch), It would have been Alford or Julio won us the SB lol Matt had a perfect passer rating deep into the game lol there would be zero chance he wouldn't win MVP. It's a qb award regardless, but he was clearly deserving. Of Alford managed that second pick 6 then you may have a case. Grady too with his 3 sack performance but it woulda been Matt Herr Doktor, falcons007, Atlantafan21 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Killing Floor 1,028 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 I think we have a lot of the pieces. Nothing would bring me more joy than seeing Falcons hoist that Lombardi. And I swear I 100% do not care who the players are as long as they have the bird on their lids. I think it takes more than 1 year but not more than 3. And I am one of those who thinks SF would have had a realistic shot this year if not for ALL their key players getting injured. Rough for them. Herr Doktor and JohnnyFranchise 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Herr Doktor 8,701 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 In all honesty, we can see a turn around. I'm not suggesting Superbowl, but definitely respectible. Wild card for sure is not crazy talk. And, we will be rebuilding and retooling at the same time. It's doable with a plan. Killing Floor 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PriMeTiiMe 7,938 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 5 minutes ago, athell said: Matt had a perfect passer rating deep into the game lol there would be zero chance he wouldn't win MVP. It's a qb award regardless, but he was clearly deserving. Of Alford managed that second pick 6 then you may have a case. Grady too with his 3 sack performance but it woulda been Matt Oh I know, I was talking the outside fan perception. Ryan has never been given credit for the things he has done. athell, Atlantafan21 and Herr Doktor 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jesus 26,699 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 13 minutes ago, PriMeTiiMe said: Even if we won with his actual statline (Say we kick the FG after the Julio catch), It would have been Alford or Julio won us the SB lol I can live with that. So can Matt. Grady would have been the MVP anyway. Herr Doktor and falconsd56 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
athell 32,624 Posted February 10 Author Share Posted February 10 19 minutes ago, PriMeTiiMe said: Oh I know, I was talking the outside fan perception. Ryan has never been given credit for the things he has done. Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh I got you, I misread my apologies and you are absolutely correct. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falconsd56 26,654 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 29 minutes ago, falcons007 said: Lol. But seriously I would have loved to see Grady as CoMVP with Ryan, if Falcons kicked that **** FG. Grady had a great game and gave everything. Upshaw should have gotten some more love too....he was all over the place in the first half. falcons007 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falconsd56 26,654 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 My usual pff is trash rant aside.... We were closer to 10-6 than alot of people think. The list of ways that we found to lose was just comical. The odds of us losing 4 games where we had a 97% or better in the 4th quarter were astronomically low. Atlantafan21, falcons007, Herr Doktor and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atlantafan21 10,957 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 1 hour ago, falcons007 said: If 2008 Falcons, 2017 Rams, 2017 Eagles and Bills could turn it around quickly. I have no doubts Falcons can turn it around quickly in 2021. If TF and AS are as good as we think, this should be a playoff team. 49ers were 4-12 in 2018 and went to the SB the following year too. It’s not impossible at all. athell and falconsd56 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 25,031 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 3 minutes ago, Atlantafan21 said: 49ers were 4-12 in 2018 and went to the SB the following year too. It’s not impossible at all. Yep. Add 2011 Niners who went to NFCG in harbaughs first year. athell and Atlantafan21 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 25,031 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 15 minutes ago, falconsd56 said: Upshaw should have gotten some more love too....he was all over the place in the first half. Yep. He surprised me in that game.Babs should have gotten the ring. Herr Doktor 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falconsd56 26,654 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 4 minutes ago, falcons007 said: Yep. He surprised me in that game.Babs should have gotten the ring. Indeed. Herr Doktor 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kenn.junior 910 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 22 hours ago, falcons007 said: You know if it was other QB, you would hear excuses like his Number 1 WR was banged up for most of the season and missed multiple games. But that doesn’t apply to Ryan. literally our top 3 WRs been hurt all year and thats the strength of the offense Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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