Summerhill Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 29 minutes ago, Mister pudding said: How do you figure? Means and Cominsky had way more tackles. Harris had as many tfl as Fowler. 12 solo tackles in 14 games isn't exactly a really good job imo Properly setting the edge doesn’t necessarily lead to a tackle. If you prevent the RB from getting to the outside and the interior DL or LB makes the tackle you did your job. Herr Doktor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papachaz Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Mister pudding said: Because he couldn't possibly play worse? now look, don't go giving a new target to aim at! that's almost like saying "what ELSE could go wrong" and then being surprised when fate SHOWS you Mister pudding 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaJoe Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Summerhill said: On an unrelated topic I was just watching some TJ Watt highlights and was seeing he makes a lot of his big plays going against TEs and RBs and not OTs. I can assume this was happening not because the other teams were stupid but because of Pittsburgh’s various formations they could slide to have Tuitt or Hayward take the OT and let Watt beat up on the non-lineman. With Pees being a multiple fronts coach, can we scheme Fowler these kinds of matchups? Is that what he did with the Rams? well the odd front does lend itself to schematic and tactical advantages IMO. I'll just leave it at that. papachaz and Summerhill 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigSmackDaddy Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 I hope so. I assume we can’t cut him due to dead money... anyone know?! Never liked the signing to begin with but would love to be wrong. Falcons Fan MVP and Day1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alomar Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Mister pudding said: How do you figure? Means and Cominsky had way more tackles. Harris had as many tfl as Fowler. 12 solo tackles in 14 games isn't exactly a really good job imo Playing the run as a DE isn't about TFL. It's about setting the edge. If you can get the TFL, great. Most importantly, don't let the runner get outside of you! That is your job when setting the edge as a DE when playing the run. He did a great job of setting the edge against the run, so he did a great job playing the run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Let's see how he plays under Pees but I have a feeling it will either be really good or he be gone. Herr Doktor and papachaz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snafu Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Alomar said: You are entitled to your opinion... LMAO. Donald's worst year was better than Jarret's best year. Aaron Donald could retire tomorrow and would be considered by a lot of people to be the best DT in NFL history. Dude's a top 10 all time NFL defender. Edited February 10, 2021 by Snafu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alomar Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Just now, Snafu said: LMAO. Aaron Donald could retire tomorrow and would be considered by a lot of people to be the best DT in NFL history. Dude's a top 10 all time NFL defender. I agree that Aaron is one of, if not, THE BEST DT in history! To say that Grady is not even close to the same talent, in my opinion, is crazy. I am not saying Grady is as good, or better, than Aaron Donald. I am saying the talent level isn't as far off as some people think. If you were to create a list of the best DT playing right now, would Grady be in it? How high would Grady be? I would say that he is in the top 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snafu Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Alomar said: I agree that Aaron is one of, if not, THE BEST DT in history! To say that Grady is not even close to the same talent, in my opinion, is crazy. I am not saying Grady is as good, or better, than Aaron Donald. I am saying the talent level isn't as far off as some people think. If you were to create a list of the best DT playing right now, would Grady be in it? How high would Grady be? I would say that he is in the top 5. Even if I put Grady at 2, the gap between the 2 would practically be the English Channel. I just dont think they are comparable in terms of talent level. No knock on Grady, but we may never see another DT as dominant as Donald in our lifetimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Nah, dudes gabbage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alomar Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 45 minutes ago, Snafu said: Even if I put Grady at 2, the gap between the 2 would practically be the English Channel. I just dont think they are comparable in terms of talent level. No knock on Grady, but we may never see another DT as dominant as Donald in our lifetimes. We will have to agree to disagree on the gap between them. I think that we can both agree that Donald is one of, if not, the best DT to ever play the game, and that Grady is a very good/great DT himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidecar Falcon Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Alomar said: You are entitled to your opinion... Not really an opinion. Donald: 85.5 sacks Jarrett: 25.5 sacks Jarrett is good. Donald is elite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Kent™ Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Fowler is trash and was a trash signing. I think the majority of us knew that whenever we signed him. Dude is an athlete not a football player. One of the many idiot moves we made in FA over the years. Sidecar Falcon and Day1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alomar Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, Sidecar Falcon said: Not really an opinion. Donald: 85.5 sacks Jarrett: 25.5 sacks Jarrett is good. Donald is elite. Sure, Aaron has a whole lot more sacks. Not saying Aaron isn't the better DT. Aaron also has 49 more tackles in 17 more games. Sacks aren't the only stat. Aaron Donald is the better DT, but Grady Jarrett isn't some scrub taking up space. He is a very good/great DT himself. My OPINION is that the gap between the two of them isn't huge. Donald: 337 Tackles in 110 games Jarrett: 288 tackles in 93 games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidecar Falcon Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Alomar said: Sure, Aaron has a whole lot more sacks. Not saying Aaron isn't the better DT. Aaron also has 49 more tackles in 17 more games. Sacks aren't the only stat. Aaron Donald is the better DT, but Grady Jarrett isn't some scrub taking up space. He is a very good/great DT himself. My OPINION is that the gap between the two of them isn't huge. Donald: 337 Tackles in 110 games Jarrett: 288 tackles in 93 games Sure in terms of tackles the gap isn’t that big. In terms of a player the gap is big. Point of this is that expecting Fowler to put up similar numbers as he did with Donald is a fool’s errand. Grady, while still really good, isn’t the player that Donald is. https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2021/01/05/rams-aaron-donald-pressures-nfl-ranking/ Not to mention QB hits. This isn’t a knock on Jarrett but Donald is in a league of his own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidecar Falcon Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 17 minutes ago, Clark Kent™ said: Fowler is trash and was a trash signing. I think the majority of us knew that whenever we signed him. Dude is an athlete not a football player. One of the many idiot moves we made in FA over the years. He thrived with Donald there. We don’t have an Aaron Donald type of player here, so he can’t do that anymore. It was fools gold right from the beginning. Herr Doktor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUBBASBEANS Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 As others have stated I think pees will have a lot to say abt this. Both schematically and w the insertion of his foot in that *** as necessary!! He will demand it!! But also, he will have this units respect up front too. You can’t convince me that this entire staff had not lost the respect of these players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUBBASBEANS Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 56 minutes ago, Clark Kent™ said: Fowler is trash and was a trash signing. I think the majority of us knew that whenever we signed him. Dude is an athlete not a football player. One of the many idiot moves we made in FA over the years. This may be valid or not but your point reminds me a lot of the whole Beasley saga. Athlete....not a player. DQ and co had a pure knack for that Herr Doktor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day1 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 5 hours ago, Falcons Fan MVP said: After Raheem Morris called him out, Dante Fowler tweeted that he had been playing on one leg all season. That would explain why he didn't play as well as expected. If Dante stays healthy next year he should play a lot better under Dean Pees scheme. That would make a big difference for our defense. If the coach called him out then the coach must not have known. How is that possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day1 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 4 hours ago, SoCalFalconFan said: He did play injured. Of course, he could play worse, but it makes sense to have some hope that he'll improve with good health and with DP at the helm of the D. what's his name 2.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day1 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 4 hours ago, Snozberies17 said: I liked the signing at the time but was never expecting him to be more than a complimentary pass rusher. Overpriced, sure. But was happy we added someone to the group. If Takk had stayed healthy and provided some push from the opposite side I think Fowler could have cleaned up on a few extra sacks and from what I remember held the edge pretty well on rushing downs. If we can get some help in the off season on the other side and he gets healthy then Peas will find a nice role for him. waterboy comes to mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day1 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Alomar said: Playing the run as a DE isn't about TFL. It's about setting the edge. If you can get the TFL, great. Most importantly, don't let the runner get outside of you! That is your job when setting the edge as a DE when playing the run. He did a great job of setting the edge against the run, so he did a great job playing the run. so being half good is ok, got it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconOdense Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 13 hours ago, autigerfan said: Let's face it, we have no choice. No pass rusher worthy of #4 it seems and unlikely to find one in free agency. I like Patrick Jones II from Pitt but thinking he may sneak into the end of the 1st which would put him out of reach barring a trade down. I see Patrick Jones in the middle/late second round. But I like him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Long Shot Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 It's almost impossible he plays worse... so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 14 hours ago, falconsd56 said: He actually did a really good job in the run game ...so yes...he actually could have possibly played worse. direwolf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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