408Falcon 1,458 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Just now, MilleniumFalcon said: I kind of felt frustrated watching the Chiefs last night... reminded me of a bit of the Falcons game when Ryan has no protection. Change the game plan to a more quick throw and screen game and run the ball more... but Chiefs kept trying to throw the ball downfield. I don't really remember us getting shut down that badly. The Bucs got really hot though towards the end of the year once they put everything together. Kudos to them. HASHBROWN3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MilleniumFalcon 3,084 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 1 minute ago, 408Falcon said: I don't really remember us getting shut down that badly. The Bucs got really hot though towards the end of the year once they put everything together. Kudos to them. The first Aints game they dominated the Falcons and Ryan was pressured on nearly every play. youngbloodz and 408Falcon 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BadMoonRising 2,116 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Refusing to check down and going deep most plays was 90% the offenses issues last night. Forcing them into 3rd and long situations. Also why there where know 3rd down completion until late in the game if any. youngbloodz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beast-N-Da-Sheetz 4,076 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 40 minutes ago, ya_boi_j said: I just saw this and my jaw dropped Sheesh!!! ya_boi_j 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PapaJoe 3,233 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 48 minutes ago, ya_boi_j said: I just saw this and my jaw dropped He tired. celtiksage and ya_boi_j 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.11 8,366 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 1 hour ago, youngbloodz said: Chiefs better upgrade their o line and d line. They have to improve that run game But Reid/Bienemy actually has to commit to it. Watching that game last night was like watching insanity. In the first possession of the second half, I thought Reid and co. wised up and we're gonna start pounding the rock after that 30 or so yard sprint by Edwards-Helaire. Then they went right back to pass, pass, pass. Even as a neutral fan it was frustrating to watch because anybody with two functioning eyes and a brain could see the Bucs were not going to let the Chiefs beat them passing. Meanwhile their star QB that's already battling a foot injury is having to run for his life every other play trying to make something happen because his coaches refuse to adapt the gameplan. And like you said, it wasn't like Bowles was throwing some exotic blitz packages at the offense all game. They were just getting beat with 4-man fronts and two deep safeties. Honestly, the Chiefs should have lost in last year's Super Bowl too, but the Niners just imploded down the stretch. They can't keep relying on Mahomes to try and bail them out with his arms and legs playing that hero ball nonsense. Herr Doktor, youngbloodz and VTCrunkler 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Killing Floor 1,026 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 You could reasonably argue 2 Bucs TDs were off over involvement from the refs. But the O line worst case scenario was playing out and kudos to the Bucs for attacking and not letting up, not giving KC a chance. Well played. And my pico came out great. My secret? I use serannos instead of jalepenos because they are more consistent. Herr Doktor, JohnnyFranchise and youngbloodz 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
red falcon 4,968 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 1 hour ago, youngbloodz said: I know some of you are very knowledgeable about football and schemes. But others just like to watch football and not get into the technical side. The Bucs didn’t do anything special to stop the Chiefs. They played cover 2 all game. Which is two deep safeties. That’s it. Nothing else. Shannon said it best you can’t pass out of cover 2. You have to run out of it. This obviously isn’t Falcons related but heck it’s the off-season right now Was it cover two man or zone? Maybe both? I was a bit out of it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
youngbloodz 16,403 Posted February 8 Author Share Posted February 8 1 minute ago, red falcon said: Was it cover two man or zone? Maybe both? I was a bit out of it. Look like mostly zone red falcon 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
red falcon 4,968 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Just now, youngbloodz said: Look like mostly zone Thats what i was thinking. Kept eyes on pat while the line screamed up the field. There backers can cover a lot of ground but i know you know that. They have so much talent.... youngbloodz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mtldirtybird 1,249 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 1 hour ago, ya_boi_j said: They gotta decide between those 2 and Suh. Between the 3 I would let Suh walk. David has been around long enough to where he shouldn't need to break the bank. They need to make sure they can keep that staff together a few more years. and Godwin, Gronk, AB, and Fournette ya_boi_j 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mtldirtybird 1,249 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 1 hour ago, ya_boi_j said: I just saw this and my jaw dropped holy... ya_boi_j 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falcons Fan MVP 3,949 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 3 hours ago, ya_boi_j said: They're defense has been solid the past few seasons. Especially the front 7. They just had a QB that couldn't lead the offense As soon as Mike Smith got fired as DC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faithful Falcon 8,219 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 3 hours ago, youngbloodz said: I know some of you are very knowledgeable about football and schemes. But others just like to watch football and not get into the technical side. The Bucs didn’t do anything special to stop the Chiefs. They played cover 2 all game. Which is two deep safeties. That’s it. Nothing else. Shannon said it best you can’t pass out of cover 2. You have to run out of it. This obviously isn’t Falcons related but heck it’s the off-season right now It depends on if your defense is running on all cylinders. KC was missing their two starting Tackles, and Tampa did what they were supposed to do. If that Defense had a weakness, it didn't show up last night. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fuego 16,335 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 3 hours ago, youngbloodz said: I know some of you are very knowledgeable about football and schemes. But others just like to watch football and not get into the technical side. The Bucs didn’t do anything special to stop the Chiefs. They played cover 2 all game. Which is two deep safeties. That’s it. Nothing else. Shannon said it best you can’t pass out of cover 2. You have to run out of it. This obviously isn’t Falcons related but heck it’s the off-season right now Dude, I DVR'd Undisputed and just turned it on and watching it, and reading this thread at the same time, I read what you said Shannon said just as he was saying it on TV. You can't make this stuff up. youngbloodz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fernando C. 1,191 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 3 hours ago, youngbloodz said: I know some of you are very knowledgeable about football and schemes. But others just like to watch football and not get into the technical side. The Bucs didn’t do anything special to stop the Chiefs. They played cover 2 all game. Which is two deep safeties. That’s it. Nothing else. Shannon said it best you can’t pass out of cover 2. You have to run out of it. This obviously isn’t Falcons related but heck it’s the off-season right now Both there safeties are really good... but Winfield is going to be elite... youngbloodz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Herr Doktor 8,691 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 2 hours ago, Mr.11 said: But Reid/Bienemy actually has to commit to it. Watching that game last night was like watching insanity. In the first possession of the second half, I thought Reid and co. wised up and we're gonna start pounding the rock after that 30 or so yard sprint by Edwards-Helaire. Then they went right back to pass, pass, pass. Even as a neutral fan it was frustrating to watch because anybody with two functioning eyes and a brain could see the Bucs were not going to let the Chiefs beat them passing. Meanwhile their star QB that's already battling a foot injury is having to run for his life every other play trying to make something happen because his coaches refuse to adapt the gameplan. And like you said, it wasn't like Bowles was throwing some exotic blitz packages at the offense all game. They were just getting beat with 4-man fronts and two deep safeties. Honestly, the Chiefs should have lost in last year's Super Bowl too, but the Niners just imploded down the stretch. They can't keep relying on Mahomes to try and bail them out with his arms and legs playing that hero ball nonsense. That will get Mahomes hurt and done. JohnnyFranchise and Mr.11 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Herr Doktor 8,691 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 2 hours ago, red falcon said: Was it cover two man or zone? Maybe both? I was a bit out of it. Both really. Cover two zone. They practiced containment. Now it's up to Reid and Bienemy to figure out how to counter the counter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ghosts of Glanville 3,523 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Funny thing is the Bucs used almost the same defense last night they used to stomp the Raiders in SB37—Cover 2 and consistent pressure from rushing four. Instead of Lynch, Sapp, Rice and Brooks it was Winfield, Suh, David and White Summerhill, VTCrunkler and JohnnyFranchise 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya_boi_j 67,737 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 3 minutes ago, Ghosts of Glanville said: Funny thing is the Bucs used almost the same defense last night they used to stomp the Raiders in SB37—Cover 2 and consistent pressure from rushing four. Instead of Lynch, Sapp, Rice and Brooks it was Winfield, Suh, David and White Monte Kiffin, Mike Tomlin and Raheem Morris were all apart of that defensive coaching group Mr.11 and Herr Doktor 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
youngbloodz 16,403 Posted February 8 Author Share Posted February 8 19 minutes ago, Faithful Falcon said: It depends on if your defense is running on all cylinders. KC was missing their two starting Tackles, and Tampa did what they were supposed to do. If that Defense had a weakness, it didn't show up last night. The weakness in the cover 2 is across the middle. Mahomes just couldn’t expose them because he was running like Dada from Next Friday when Baby D was after his a$$ VTCrunkler, JohnnyFranchise, Mr.11 and 3 others 2 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
youngbloodz 16,403 Posted February 8 Author Share Posted February 8 19 minutes ago, fuego said: Dude, I DVR'd Undisputed and just turned it on and watching it, and reading this thread at the same time, I read what you said Shannon said just as he was saying it on TV. You can't make this stuff up. I was screaming at my TV last night for them to run the ball in the 1st half Mr.11, fuego and Herr Doktor 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Herr Doktor 8,691 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 2 hours ago, Killing Floor said: You could reasonably argue 2 Bucs TDs were off over involvement from the refs. But the O line worst case scenario was playing out and kudos to the Bucs for attacking and not letting up, not giving KC a chance. Well played. And my pico came out great. My secret? I use serannos instead of jalepenos because they are more consistent. We do the Serrano as well in most of our salsas. For the same reason! Jalapenos are all over the place with heat. I like a nice habenero to add some almost fruit flavor (gotta de-seed that ****** though....🤣) Killing Floor 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya_boi_j 67,737 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 2 minutes ago, youngbloodz said: The weakness in the cover 2 is across the middle. Mahomes just couldn’t expose them because he was running like Dada from Next Friday when Baby D was after his a$$ Underrated mention Quote Link to post Share on other sites
red falcon 4,968 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 19 minutes ago, Herr Doktor said: Both really. Cover two zone. They practiced containment. Now it's up to Reid and Bienemy to figure out how to counter the counter. I think having their tackles back will help. I think they just out athlete teams. Tampa has an enormous amount of athletes and physicality. Not to mention monsters in the trenches. HASHBROWN3 and Herr Doktor 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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