Jesus 26,729 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 2 minutes ago, peoriabird said: 1 Patrick Mahomes 109.8 2017-2020 kan 2 Bart Starr+ 104.8 1956-1971 gnb 3 Kurt Warner+ 102.8 1998-2009 2TM 4 Matt Ryan 100.8 2008-2020 atl 5 Aaron Rodgers 100.5 2005-2020 gnb 6 Nick Foles 98.8 2012-2020 phi 7 Alex Smith 97.4 2005-2020 2TM 8 Drew Brees 97.1 2001-2020 2TM 9 Joe Montana+ 95.6 1979-1994 2TM 10 Russell Wilson 95.3 2012-2020 sea 11 Mark Sanchez 94.3 2009-2018 nyj 12 Ken Anderson 93.5 1971-1986 cin 13 Tony Romo 93.0 2004-2016 dal 14 Joe Theismann 91.4 1974-1985 was 15 Tom Brady 89.9 2000-2020 2TM 16 Joe Flacco 88.6 2008-2020 rav 17 Troy Aikman+ 88.3 1989-2000 dal 18 Cam Newton 87.7 2011-2020 car 19 Josh Allen 87.4 2018-2020 buf Eli Manning 87.4 2004-2019 nyg Peyton Manning 87.4 1998-2015 2TM 22 Colin Kaepernick 87.3 2011-2016 sfo 23 Ben Roethlisberger 86.4 2004-2020 pit 24 Brett Favre + 86.3 1991-2010 2TM 25 Steve Young+ 85.8 1985-1999 23 Ben Roethlisberger 86.4 2004-2020 pit 24 Brett Favre + 86.3 1991-2010 2TM 25 Steve Young+ 85.8 Gonna make me switch to desktop mode aren't you? AUTiger7222 and Ergo Proxy 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kiwifalcon 19,796 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 22 minutes ago, SavedByGrace1221 said: Does every single topic on here have to be about Matt Ryan....and please please tell me you're not trying to compare Tom Brady... 10 super bowls, seven super bowl championships... To Matt Ryan... I mean come on man... Under centre statues and over 35 at that who’d have thought they have a future in the NFL. No the media and alike yell out loud and proud how the modern day mobile guy is the way to go and the dumb *** fans buy this ****. Seed planted and everyones on the bandwagon. wnyfalconfan and falcons007 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 25,152 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Just now, Wjcorner said: I can’t believe people saw the game, and come away saying ‘see, mobile QBs aren’t good!’ Man’s put the ball into his receivers helmet while horizontal to the field, over a defenders arms while making time in a pocket that collapsed at the snap, but since the result was an incomplete, it’s not indicative of what a mobile QB is capable of at their peak I don’t think any one is saying mobile QB are bad. It’s the TATF myth of mobile QB curing everything and overcoming a bad team. AUTiger7222, JDaveG, Dr Long Shot and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Long Shot 4,083 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 1 minute ago, Wjcorner said: I can’t believe people saw the game, and come away saying ‘see, mobile QBs aren’t good!’ Man’s put the ball into his receivers helmet while horizontal to the field, over a defenders arms while making time in a pocket that collapsed at the snap, but since the result was an incomplete, it’s not indicative of what a mobile QB is capable of at their peak The point is you can be God NFL QB and come up with abysmal results if your team sucks, obviously. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wjcorner 3,883 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 4 minutes ago, falcons007 said: Salary cap can be worked around. I hated TD for that crap. He was too conservative and didn’t make enough moves for play makers. Signing washed up players and prove it deals aren’t recipe for long term success. Just gotta be ready for the Jarious Byrds along with the Demario Davises Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Knight of God 54,036 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 30 minutes ago, nomak said: Pocket passers will always be the better option. That's not true either. Neither narrative is truth. FalconinPA, Mr.11, JDaveG and 5 others 7 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peoriabird 1,162 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 5 minutes ago, Jesus said: Peyton's got 251 Favre has 361 Payton also has 539 touchdowns. Why am i having this conversation? AUTiger7222 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Long Shot 4,083 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 1 minute ago, falcons007 said: I don’t think any one is saying mobile QB are bad. It’s the TATF myth of mobile QB curing everything and overcoming a bad team. And conversely you on the other side you have one of the least athletic players to ever lace them up and he basically has put up two different Hall of Fame careers that equal records that will probably never be broken, ever. falcons007 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 25,152 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 1 minute ago, Wjcorner said: Just gotta be ready for the Jarious Byrds along with the Demario Davises You can’t be afraid to make moves man. Some will work some dont, but the goal should be to get as many play makers as possible. Not guys with knee problems or cast offs for cheap. Sure you need some players on prove it deals but not the whole **** team. Day1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AllStarHandyMan 555 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 35 minutes ago, JD dirtybird21 said: Yes....it was Brady who harassed Mahomes all game....come on man can we get the brady refs!! 17 points was with the help of crap flags! we found out the brady refs are a little better then the saints refs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jesus 26,729 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 2 minutes ago, peoriabird said: Payton also has 539 touchdowns. Why am i having this conversation? Why are you having this conversation? All you're doing is proving me right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wjcorner 3,883 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 2 minutes ago, Dr Long Shot said: The point is you can be God NFL QB and come up with abysmal results if your team sucks, obviously. Making the SB is an abysmal result? Who are ya arguing with that says a QB cures everything. The argument I’ve seen is a great QB gives you a chance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 25,152 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 1 minute ago, Dr Long Shot said: And conversely you on the other side you have one of the least athletic players to ever lace them up and he basically has put up two different Hall of Fame careers that equal records that will probably never be broken, ever. I agree. But then you have guys like Rodgers, Wilson and possibly Mahomes who will show that being mobile isn’t bad when you are as good in being a QB as non mobile guys. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wjcorner 3,883 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 1 minute ago, falcons007 said: You can’t be afraid to make moves man. Some will work some dont, but the goal should be to get as many play makers as possible. Not guys with knee problems or cast offs for cheap. Sure you need some players on prove it deals but not the whole **** team. Yeah I’m agreeing. Just have to be ready for the bad contracts too when you get active in FA. falcons007 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james b 917 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 1989Fan, Dr Long Shot, Falcons_Frenzy and 3 others 1 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peoriabird 1,162 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 1 minute ago, Wjcorner said: Who are ya arguing with that says a QB cures everything. The argument I’ve seen is a great QB gives you a chance. The Falcons already have a good quarterback but the board want a lottery ticket quarterback thinking then you don't need a defense which was proven wrong yet again tonight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jesus 26,729 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 3 minutes ago, james b said: Ok so Brady and the bucs won but maybe on this site we don't post memes supporting the two of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
isproab 2,019 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 1 minute ago, kiwifalcon said: Under centre statues and over 35 at that who’d have thought they have a future in the NFL. No the media and alike yell out loud and proud how the modern day mobile guy is the way to go and the dumb *** fans buy this ****. Seed planted and everyones on the bandwagon. Has nothing to do with the media and everything to do with what is winning now. NFL goes in cycles. There was a time when TEs were all but absent from the NFL. Now they are difference makers and lead receivers. Was a time when a big time lead RB was what every team wanted. Then it was RB by committee, now RBs are devalued. Remember when LBs were devalued? Or what about the 240 to 250 pound guy in the middle was what you wanted to stuff the run. Now they can be 220 to 230 as long as they go sideline to sideline. You use to never draft a safety in round 1, but the league saw how they could be difference makers. NFL for years ran away from mobile QBs, now they are all the rage because if you give them a chance, they can be a nightmare to defend. These are just fact. Nobody said a Tom Brady drop back passer can't win. It's just a new day and mobile QBs are pushing the envelope. VTCrunkler 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peoriabird 1,162 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 2 minutes ago, isproab said: NFL for years ran away from mobile QBs, now they are all the rage because if you give them a chance, they can be a nightmare to defend. These are just fact. Nobody said a Tom Brady drop back passer can't win. It's just a new day and mobile QBs are pushing the envelope. Well, I will make this bold prediction right now. Lamar Jackson will never make it to the superbowl! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sidecar Falcon 8,337 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Smh this is such a dumb take. Chiefs lost 3 of their starting offensive lineman and all of a sudden it’s “rUnNinG qBs sUcK.”. Ryan had 1st round offensive linemen nearly his entire season and people use them as excuse as to why we only had 4 wins. FalconinPA 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wjcorner 3,883 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 28 minutes ago, peoriabird said: The Falcons already have a good quarterback but the board want a lottery ticket quarterback thinking then you don't need a defense which was proven wrong yet again tonight. Idk man. Everybody I see advocating for a new QB wants him for the fewtcha and just doesn’t want to put all their eggs in Ryan’s basket while we have this high of a pick. Personally I don’t like any of the QBs that much so 🤷🏿♂️. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kiwifalcon 19,796 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 28 minutes ago, isproab said: Has nothing to do with the media and everything to do with what is winning now. NFL goes in cycles. There was a time when TEs were all but absent from the NFL. Now they are difference makers and lead receivers. Was a time when a big time lead RB was what every team wanted. Then it was RB by committee, now RBs are devalued. Remember when LBs were devalued? Or what about the 240 to 250 pound guy in the middle was what you wanted to stuff the run. Now they can be 220 to 230 as long as they go sideline to sideline. You use to never draft a safety in round 1, but the league saw how they could be difference makers. NFL for years ran away from mobile QBs, now they are all the rage because if you give them a chance, they can be a nightmare to defend. These are just fact. Nobody said a Tom Brady drop back passer can't win. It's just a new day and mobile QBs are pushing the envelope. So whose winning now? An over 35 QB who starts under centre with no mobility. See I call BS on the media having no effect they plant seed and everyone eats that **** up. Who needs to push envelopes when in all essence you can still win with tried and true. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
red falcon 4,968 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 1 hour ago, nomak said: Maholmes just proved the facts of the matter...pocket passers will always be the best choice. You have to factor in the two tackles being out not to mention the elite defense the bucs have. There is more to it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Long Shot 4,083 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 6 minutes ago, Sidecar Falcon said: Smh this is such a dumb take. Chiefs lost 3 of their starting offensive lineman and all of a sudden it’s “rUnNinG qBs sUcK.”. Ryan had 1st round offensive linemen nearly his entire season and people use them as excuse as to why we only had 4 wins. And how dumb is it to judge players by his draft position LMFAO. Hey Jets had a number 1 overall pick at QB this past season, lucky them right? Mr.11 and AUTiger7222 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peoriabird 1,162 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 6 minutes ago, Wjcorner said: Idk man. Everybody I see advocating for a new QB wants him for the fewtcha and just doesn’t want to put all their eggs in Ryan’s basket while we have this high of a pick. Personally I don’t like any of the QBs that much so 🤷🏿♂️. The Bucs did that with Winston and ultimately had to sign an old head who is currently 8 years older than Ryan so it doesn't always work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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