⚡Slumerican⚡ 5,787 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Just a article posted today that laid out a few ideas kicking the tires.. I would absolutely toss out doing #3.. But could be some interest in 1 & 2..but Ryan would have to agree to restructure his contract to guarantee money before id consider even those. But just saying, if we are headed for a rebuild anyway (which is coming either way) , get what picks we can while we can to give us a head start.. Trade No. 1 For Heckman’s first trade deal, the Bears would acquire Matt Ryan and a 2021 fourth-round pick and in return, the Falcons would get Chicago’s 2021 first and sixth-round pick along with 2022’s first and a third-round pick. This could be a quality trade with this year’s draft class stacked with plenty of QB talent. The Falcons have the No. 4 overall pick and could use that to get the “best player available” possible which could be Oregan’s star offensive tackle, Penei Sewell. And then look to pick No. 10 for a future franchise quarterback like Trey Lance out of North Dakota State. That would kill two birds with one stone on positions Atlanta needs to fill. And another first-round pick in 2022 could help out as Atlanta starts a complete re-build that could take a couple of seasons and plenty of draft capital. Trade No. 2 Under Heckman’s trade number two deal, the Falcons deal Chicago Matt Ryan in exchange for cornerback Kyle Fuller, 2021’s first-round pick, and 2022’s second-round pick. With acquiring one of the best cornerbacks in the league this season and another first-round pick this year…the Falcons would now be killing three birds with one stone. Fuller, 28, would add some much-needed veteran talent to a Falcons weak defense. He ended the 2020 season with one interception, one forced fumble, and 8 pass breakups with 52 solo tackles. He has been named All-Pro twice in 2019 and again in 2018 along with first-team All-Pro. The Falcons drafted cornerback AJ Terrell last NFL draft out of Clemson, but he still needs a bit more experience and he likely won’t sprout until his third year like most rookies. Still, he’ll enter 2021 as Atlanta’s top corner. Terrell and Fuller could be a terrifying duo like Fuller and his teammate Jaylon Johnson and were at the beginning of the 2020 season. Trade No. 3 Heckman’s third and final deal would have Matt Ryan and Atlanta’s 2021 fourth-round pick headed to Chicago and in return, the Falcons receive Bears’ QB Nick Foles, their 2021 first and third-round pick, and 2022’s first-round pick. The Falcons will be picking their future QB in this year’s draft, no doubt. But acquiring Foles would give Atlanta the veteran QB mentorship any rookie signal-caller needs. To end the season, Foles completed 65.4 percent of his passes for 1,852 yards, 10 touchdowns, and eight interceptions in seven starts. The Falcons have Kurt Benkert, but he is still very young and inexperienced so having Foles around to fill take over Matt Schaub’s spot wouldn’t be so bad. Matt Ryan isn’t a washed-up veteran, he’s going to be costly and while it will be hard to get out of his contract this year, anything seems possible, so let’s keep speculating to keep us entertained until the 2021 season. Atl Falcon 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Sipifalcon 1,959 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 **** Foles Tim Mazetti, 4dabirds, ATLskinjob and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Sipifalcon 1,959 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 (edited) I'd rather roll with a rookie than Foles or even benkert honestly if that's the case. I'd rather have scenario 1 or 2. I would probably not watch the season if Foles hypothetically became qb1 Edited February 2 by Sipifalcon Link to post Share on other sites
⚡Slumerican⚡ 5,787 Posted February 2 Author Share Posted February 2 3 minutes ago, Sipifalcon said: **** Foles I wouldn't want the Foles deal either, idk what his price tag for 2021 would be, but other than a last choice backup (and he could be a decent backup) i wouldnt want to consider him being our starter under any circumstances Sipifalcon 1 Link to post Share on other sites
FalconFanSince1969 15,497 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Kyle Fuller has a 20 million dollar cap hit. This wouldn't even work in madden. poutlipper, Ovie_Lover, Tim Mazetti and 8 others 6 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Sipifalcon 1,959 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 2 minutes ago, ⚡Slumerican⚡ said: I wouldn't want the Foles deal either, idk what his price tag for 2021 would be, but other than a last choice backup (and he could be a decent backup) i wouldnt want to consider him being our starter under any circumstances I would rather trubisky over Foles although I know trubisky is a FA but u get what I'm saying ⚡Slumerican⚡ and quickzero 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Sipifalcon 1,959 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 There is no need to trade Ryan this year just draft the future qb @ 4 if this is the case. At least will know what we're getting with Ryan. Atl Falcon, quickzero and ⚡Slumerican⚡ 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Mister pudding 3,253 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 I love Matt, but he never was a great outdoor/weather qb. He's just not that kind of qb.. ⚡Slumerican⚡ and 408Falcon 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Atl Falcon 4,076 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 WTH is Heckman papachaz and mtldirtybird 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Sipifalcon 1,959 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 (edited) The only trade I would consider for ryan is if we were to get Watson and we know that isn't happening Edited February 2 by Sipifalcon Link to post Share on other sites
⚡Slumerican⚡ 5,787 Posted February 2 Author Share Posted February 2 1 minute ago, Sipifalcon said: There is no need to trade Ryan this year just draft the future qb @ 4 if this is the case. At least will know what we're getting with Ryan. Yeah, and its probably the best case for the team. But we have to figure out how to get veteran help on defense without making senseless longterm contracts thatll hinder our rebuild.. We need a few one year deals that can add substance to our secondary imo Link to post Share on other sites
mtldirtybird 1,234 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 irrelevant post 2 hours after the major announcement that Ryan and Julio ain't moving...try this on Madden and have fun Geneaut and alexhead97 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Sipifalcon 1,959 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ⚡Slumerican⚡ said: Yeah, and its probably the best case for the team. But we have to figure out how to get veteran help on defense without making senseless longterm contracts thatll hinder our rebuild.. We need a few one year deals that can add substance to our secondary imo I agree which is why I wouldn't shed a tear with scenario 1. Or scenario 2 if we could make fullers contract work. If we traded matt someone like Fitzpatrick would be at the top of my list as a bridge qb if he was a free agent with the future qb on the roster behind him. Fitz would be cheap and honestly imo the dude can still play. I'm still tryna figure out why the dolphins benched him when he was making the team better. They would have been playoff bound with Fitz under center. Edited February 2 by Sipifalcon ⚡Slumerican⚡ 1 Link to post Share on other sites
hjerry 26,543 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 It would completely depend on new management being sold on one of the new QB options or being able to replace in FA, but I have to admit, if an offer like that came down, I'd have to at least consider it. Herr Doktor, FalconsIn2012 and ⚡Slumerican⚡ 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites
papachaz 19,230 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 listed below, the exact details of a Matt Ryan trade deal: Geneaut, JDaveG, falcons007 and 10 others 5 8 Link to post Share on other sites
Sipifalcon 1,959 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 5 minutes ago, mtldirtybird said: irrelevant post 2 hours after the major announcement that Ryan and Julio ain't moving...try this on Madden and have fun Nothin is irrelevant on a forum board well almost nothing somebody made a race post on here some wks back regarding black coaches or qbs or something like that and it was completely irrelevant. I'm not the OP but nothin wrong with hypotheticals it's the off-season. Ijs 🤷🏿♂️ ⚡Slumerican⚡ 1 Link to post Share on other sites
joeyg2033 438 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 10 minutes ago, mtldirtybird said: irrelevant post 2 hours after the major announcement that Ryan and Julio ain't moving...try this on Madden and have fun Houston Rockets said Harden wasn't movin' either... What happened? ⚡Slumerican⚡ 1 Link to post Share on other sites
athell 32,504 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 14 minutes ago, Mister pudding said: I love Matt, but he never was a great outdoor/weather qb. He's just not that kind of qb.. Yea that's not a thing. This is another one of those Matt Ryan myths that I am not sure where it was born or why, like Matt Ryan sucks in the playoffs, but his stats are comparable or better on the road vs home. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RyanMa00/splits/ ATLskinjob, Herr Doktor and Atlantafan21 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 24,137 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 9 minutes ago, papachaz said: listed below, the exact details of a Matt Ryan trade deal: /thread. Herr Doktor and papachaz 2 Link to post Share on other sites
FalconFanSince1969 15,497 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 2 minutes ago, joeyg2033 said: Houston Rockets said Harden wasn't movin' either... What happened? Harden said he was and refused to play. You see Ryan doing that? Didn't think so. Next unrealistic comparison? athell, Atlantafan21, Geneaut and 3 others 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 24,137 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 2 minutes ago, joeyg2033 said: Houston Rockets said Harden wasn't movin' either... What happened? You seriously comparing NBA to NFL? NFL isn’t run by dumb folks like NBA. Players lose much more with holding out than the team. Texans can hold Watson for 7 years with out pay if he doesn’t show up. athell, Herr Doktor and ATLskinjob 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites
athell 32,504 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Just now, FalconFanSince1969 said: Harden said he was and refused to play. You see Ryan doing that? Didn't think so. Next unrealistic comparison? What an odd comparison lmao...not only because Harden was disgruntled but also taking into account the fundamental differences in NBA and NFL contracts lol. Matt Ryan broken a lot of brains this offseason. Geneaut, celtiksage, Atlantafan21 and 2 others 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 24,137 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 minute ago, FalconFanSince1969 said: Harden said he was and refused to play. You see Ryan doing that? Didn't think so. Next unrealistic comparison? Yeah. Now let NFL player an NFL player refuse to play. NFL CBA favors clubs over players holding out. Herr Doktor 1 Link to post Share on other sites
youngbloodz 16,281 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 4 minutes ago, falcons007 said: You seriously comparing NBA to NFL? NFL isn’t run by dumb folks like NBA. Players lose much more with holding out than the team. Texans can hold Watson for 7 years with out pay if he doesn’t show up. Umm the nba is actually a better run business than nfl. Football just makes way more money and more popular 408Falcon 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Mister pudding 3,253 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 8 minutes ago, athell said: Yea that's not a thing. This is another one of those Matt Ryan myths that I am not sure where it was born or why, like Matt Ryan sucks in the playoffs, but his stats are comparable or better on the road vs home. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RyanMa00/splits/ Based on what you provided, his record outdoors is 38-36. For as great of a qb that he is, it's most definitely a thing Link to post Share on other sites
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