Mister pudding 3,249 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 (edited) I have read on here numerous times about the need for a new qb (who will sit 2 years), maybe Sewell to play him or Matthews out of position at guard. Let's think back to the 2011 draft. The Falcons traded their 1st round pick (27), 2nd round pick, 4th round pick, the following years 1st rounder and a 4th for Julio Jones. I loved the trade and love Julio Jones. Many say WR is not a need on this team, not outlandish to think that as we have Julio and Ridley. However, when we traded up for Julio, we also had Roddy (5 years) and Tony Gonzalez (2 years) thereafter. Guys and gals, Ja'Marr Chase will be the best player on the board when we pick. We will not be giving up any additional draft picks either. He is a great route runner (which Matt needs) and will make an immediate impact. Would teams still be able to double and triple team Julio? Will the receiving threat help the run game? Watch the film, you decide Edited February 1 by Mister pudding egoprime II, duckhoa, Thiccolas Cage and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ATLFalcon36 2,907 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 I think Devonta Smith is better at this point. Would rather have 3 bama WR's if we're going WR. FalconDiddly18, CrimsonFalcon, Thiccolas Cage and 7 others 5 1 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Geneaut 7,131 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 I mean I won't rip my TV off the wall and chuck it in the backyard if we draft him. He's no where near my first choice but he's certainly worth a 1st round pick. Years ago when my son was small Thomas the Tank Engine was in some train museum over in Alabama on draft day, and that boy loved him some Thomas so off we went. This was way before smart phones ( or at least before I had one ) so I missed the pick live. We got back in the car to come home and I hunted around until I found some sports radio station who was recapping the picks. They announced some WR for a school I barely recognized and I got bent out of shape. We'd just taken a WR the year before and I'd frankly never heard of the kid we picked this day. I was grumpy the entire ride home. It was Roddy White. I learned to give draft picks a chance, and to give them more than one season. dawgsfan426, treboyplay, hjerry and 8 others 11 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Real Tony G. 449 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Matt was still on his rookie contract and Roddy and Tony weren't the top paid at their positions. Matt and Julio are getting paid and Ridley is well on his way to a big deal now. Poor allocation of financial resources. Speaking purely about the on-field product, though, I think it would be amazing. Borat, Mister pudding, jetpac and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
treboyplay 424 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Chase is a beast. The year off made some forget how special he was in 2019. Beast-N-Da-Sheetz, JDaveG, CaliFalcons and 7 others 9 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Herr Doktor 8,143 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Honestly, every player in the consensus top 15 is in play at 4. thanat0s, Drew4719, gkgrimes and 4 others 6 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mister pudding 3,249 Posted February 1 Author Share Posted February 1 1 minute ago, The Real Tony G. said: Matt was still on his rookie contract and Roddy and Tony weren't the top paid at their positions. Matt and Julio are getting paid and Ridley is well on his way to a big deal now. Poor allocation of financial resources. Speaking purely about the on-field product, though, I think it would be amazing. I belive Ridley's 5 years will be the same as when Julio's contract expires red falcon 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Williamb 988 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 I wouldn't be upset at all with that medusa headed monster of a wr core. I tend to like chase more than smith for size arguments only. jidady, JohnnyFranchise, Atl Falcon and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jetpac 306 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 3 minutes ago, The Real Tony G. said: Matt was still on his rookie contract and Roddy and Tony weren't the top paid at their positions. Matt and Julio are getting paid and Ridley is well on his way to a big deal now. Poor allocation of financial resources. Speaking purely about the on-field product, though, I think it would be amazing. I guess you forgot Matt’s Rookie contract was before the rookie scale. It was pretty **** big for the time 50+ mil if I recall correctly papachaz, Mister pudding, The Real Tony G. and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mister pudding 3,249 Posted February 1 Author Share Posted February 1 (edited) 11 minutes ago, ATLFalcon36 said: I think Devonta Smith is better at this point. Would rather have 3 bama WR's if we're going WR. I do like Smith.. I just prefer the bigger WR. Chase is great at grabbing the ball at its highest point Edited February 1 by Mister pudding ATLSlobberKnockers and JohnnyFranchise 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
g-dawg 43,218 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 not only do the Falcons have Ridley and Calvin - but they have young ascending talent in Russell Gage, Oladide Zacheus and Christian Blake. I wouldn't necessarily predict stardom for any of those guys but all are getting better and it's not ridiculous that one of them could develop into a star player - Gage is already a low-end #2 now - and he is still getting better. Zacheus is the ultimate slot guy. I do think now is a good time to trade Julio if he has a market and we can do it from cap standpoint (and we probably cannot) - but even if we did trade Julio - I'm not burning the top pick on a WR - we have a good and deep receiving corps. Sipifalcon and Atl Falcon 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mister pudding 3,249 Posted February 1 Author Share Posted February 1 7 minutes ago, Geneaut said: I mean I won't rip my TV off the wall and chuck it in the backyard if we draft him. He's no where near my first choice but he's certainly worth a 1st round pick. Years ago when my son was small Thomas the Tank Engine was in some train museum over in Alabama on draft day, and that boy loved him some Thomas so off we went. This was way before smart phones ( or at least before I had one ) so I missed the pick live. We got back in the car to come home and I hunted around until I found some sports radio station who was recapping the picks. They announced some WR for a school I barely recognized and I got bent out of shape. We'd just taken a WR the year before and I'd frankly never heard of the kid we picked this day. I was grumpy the entire ride home. It was Roddy White. I learned to give draft picks a chance, and to give them more than one season. Thank God for Joe Horn.. I think he helped Roddy to mature JDaveG, Geneaut, BamaBirdLady and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jidady 10,353 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 4 minutes ago, Mister pudding said: I do like Smith.. I just prefer the bigger WR. Chase is great at grabbing the ball at its highest point Yeah, the recency thing applies to Smith, while there's a fear that Chase may have rust. When I watched LSU, I was in awe of him, though. I mean, Justin Jefferson just wrecked the NFL as a rookie, but everyone in the program would say Chase is the better player. Augmenting a strength is a viable draft strategy just as much as addressing a weakness. I would never mind seeing Chase in a Falcons jersey. I'd still rather us move around the board so that it's not a possibility, though. JohnnyFranchise, blizzard_falcon and Mister pudding 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Geneaut 7,131 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Agreed. There's also a good story about Terry Robiskie calling Roddy's grandmother on his cell phone, knocking on Roddy's front door, and handing the phone to Roddy after telling grandma how lazy Roddy had been being in training camp one year. PapaJoe and Mister pudding 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jidady 10,353 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 3 minutes ago, Mister pudding said: Thank God for Joe Horn.. I think he helped Roddy to mature It's still stunning to me that a notorious troublemaker like Joe Horn became a glue player and locker room leader for the Falcons. bossFALCON™, Geneaut, blizzard_falcon and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mister pudding 3,249 Posted February 1 Author Share Posted February 1 4 minutes ago, g-dawg said: not only do the Falcons have Ridley and Calvin - but they have young ascending talent in Russell Gage, Oladide Zacheus and Christian Blake. I wouldn't necessarily predict stardom for any of those guys but all are getting better and it's not ridiculous that one of them could develop into a star player - Gage is already a low-end #2 now - and he is still getting better. Zacheus is the ultimate slot guy. I do think now is a good time to trade Julio if he has a market and we can do it from cap standpoint (and we probably cannot) - but even if we did trade Julio - I'm not burning the top pick on a WR - we have a good and deep receiving corps. Could have said the same thing about Harry Douglas, who was a 1,000 yd receiver for us one year Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mister pudding 3,249 Posted February 1 Author Share Posted February 1 3 minutes ago, jidady said: It's still stunning to me that a notorious troublemaker like Joe Horn became a glue player and locker room leader for the Falcons. Same with Kris Carter and Randy Moss BamaBirdLady 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyFranchise 2,608 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 if penei gets taken he'd be bpa at #4 so i'm with it. that 3-headed monster of a receiving core would be ridiculous. blizzard_falcon and Mister pudding 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
g-dawg 43,218 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 5 minutes ago, Mister pudding said: Could have said the same thing about Harry Douglas, who was a 1,000 yd receiver for us one year Harry Douglas had very limited upside - still a good draft pick. Gage has really performed well. Matt has enough weapons even w/o Julio - if we cannot win with Ridley, Gage, Hurst, Zacheus and Blake - then we have other problems as those weapons are better than league average. autigerfan and vitaman 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Williamb 988 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 10 minutes ago, g-dawg said: not only do the Falcons have Ridley and Calvin - but they have young ascending talent in Russell Gage, Oladide Zacheus and Christian Blake. I wouldn't necessarily predict stardom for any of those guys but all are getting better and it's not ridiculous that one of them could develop into a star player - Gage is already a low-end #2 now - and he is still getting better. Zacheus is the ultimate slot guy. I do think now is a good time to trade Julio if he has a market and we can do it from cap standpoint (and we probably cannot) - but even if we did trade Julio - I'm not burning the top pick on a WR - we have a good and deep receiving corps. No argument here, but bpa would probably need to include chase with sewell. And the thought of julio, ridley, chase, gage, zaccheus, with a hurst/williams or sermon kicker just makes my heart flutter. Mister pudding and JohnnyFranchise 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
g-dawg 43,218 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Just now, Williamb said: No argument here, but bpa would probably need to include chase with sewell. And the thought of julio, ridley, chase, gage, zaccheus, with a hurst/williams or sermon kicker just makes my heart flutter. there is only one ball that can be thrown at a time. A winning and balanced team shouldn't throw more than 30 times per game. just a terrible use of resources. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Williamb 988 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Just now, g-dawg said: there is only one ball that can be thrown at a time. A winning and balanced team shouldn't throw more than 30 times per game. just a terrible use of resources. Again, I'm in the trade back to increase picks crowd. But if you remember, 13 different recievers caught tds in '16. Just thinking of the havoc that could be created trying to guard all those guys (gage and zaccheus included). JohnnyFranchise 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Macintez 1,888 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 16 minutes ago, treboyplay said: Chase is a beast. The year off made some forget how special he was in 2019. I love DeVonta Smith don’t get me wrong, but you are absolutely right. His body control is elite and he plays the game physical. I really don’t know who to compare his game to physically. I almost want to say a Reggie Wayne with ELITE athleticism or even a Jimmy Smith... Someone who plays bigger than his height and has a all-round skill set. JohnnyFranchise 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
g-dawg 43,218 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Just now, Williamb said: Again, I'm in the trade back to increase picks crowd. But if you remember, 13 different recievers caught tds in '16. Just thinking of the havoc that could be created trying to guard all those guys (gage and zaccheus included). also most time only 3 WRs are on the field at a time. Just a stupid use of resources to take the strongest and deepest position on the team - we have literally GARBAGE at our 2nd/3rd Cornerback spots, garbage passrushers, garbage at safety, garbage at Left Guard and still need to see more from our right tackle. The ONLY way I would take Chase or DeVonta Smith was if I traded Julio and got a nice return for him - and I still wouldn't do it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TNFalcon1 893 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 (edited) If we were to get another weapon it would be Pitts for me. He is a huge match up problem. That being said I want Sewell or Slater. Edited February 1 by TNFalcon1 falconfansince66, Run 'n' Shoot and HASHBROWN3 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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