FalconOdense Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 I see posts about Surtain at 4 and other players, but are TATF really ready to go BPA? I think when you are looking at non QBs I think that best players are Sewell and Chase... But not desperate needs? Lets say there is no trade down option. Are you all willing to take best player even though it is not a top top need like pass rusher, secondary.. celtiksage, Mister pudding and Fernando C. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleurieu falcon Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 I don't believe a lot of people are. Some need to be prepared for the falcons to take an offensive player as that is what the strength of the top ten is celtiksage 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 I think they should trade back, and then go BPA after that with the extra picks. Lots of hidden gems this draft due to players opting out and such which resulted in their draft value lowering. bossFALCON™, rugger8, Vandy and 5 others 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconOdense Posted January 26 Author Share Posted January 26 43 minutes ago, Trick Montalban said: I think they should trade back, and then go BPA after that with the extra picks. Lots of hidden gems this draft due to players opting out and such which resulted in their draft value lowering. Yes, but is there is no trade back possibility. You dont just press a button and then you trade back to your preferred position. You need a partner who sees the value. Sterling, JohnnyFranchise, Malachore and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 2 hours ago, FalconOdense said: Yes, but is there is no trade back possibility. You dont just press a button and then you trade back to your preferred position. You need a partner who sees the value. There is almost always an opportunity to trade back in the top of the draft...it all depends what you’re willing to accept in exchange. With Lawrence, Wilson, Fields, Sewell in the draft, I would bet the house the Falcons have inquiries to trade back...all depends if the are willing to accept what’s proposed. Pacific_Falcon, JohnnyFranchise, The Daywalker and 4 others 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconOdense Posted January 26 Author Share Posted January 26 10 minutes ago, 1989Fan said: There is almost always an opportunity to trade back in the top of the draft...it all depends what you’re willing to accept in exchange. With Lawrence, Wilson, Fields, Sewell in the draft, I would bet the house the Falcons have inquiries to trade back...all depends if the are willing to accept what’s proposed. Yes, but the idea was that if there isn't.... Then are people ready to go BPA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Carlton Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 In your scenario Sewell has to be the pick. I'm okay with that. Kaptain Krazy, Run 'n' Shoot and rugger8 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 3 hours ago, FalconOdense said: I see posts about Surtain at 4 and other players, but are TATF really ready to go BPA? I think when you are looking at non QBs I think that best players are Sewell and Chase... But not desperate needs? Lets say there is no trade down option. Are you all willing to take best player even though it is not a top top need like pass rusher, secondary.. Parsons is in that same conversation. 2 hours ago, FalconOdense said: Yes, but is there is no trade back possibility. You dont just press a button and then you trade back to your preferred position. You need a partner who sees the value. There will be plenty of calls for #4. rugger8 and Ergo Proxy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconOdense Posted January 26 Author Share Posted January 26 23 minutes ago, Vandy said: Parsons is in that same conversation. There will be plenty of calls for #4. Lets hope so. I always support trading down. Run 'n' Shoot, rugger8, Vandy and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvinthemartian Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 4 hours ago, Trick Montalban said: I think they should trade back, and then go BPA after that with the extra picks. Lots of hidden gems this draft due to players opting out and such which resulted in their draft value lowering. I agree with that IF AND ONLY IF we can find a trade partner willing to engage us in a trade that makes sense for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Doktor Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 I am. Its over due. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcons007 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Ozzie with Ravens BPA was Trenches, Secondary, LB and non skill positions. They rarely drafted WR as BPA unlike TD. You can never have enough of those players. Ozzie was not afraid to double dip on TE in a draft, who could block and catch. Herr Doktor and GrimeyKidd 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconDiddly18 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 I'm down with a LT or WR. No guarantee we'll re-sign Ridley and Julio is more than likely gone after the 2021 season. I'd prefer a WR over LT but getting a great LT on a rookie deals sounds good too. We could then trade Jake for some extra picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcky_mtn_falcon Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 4 hours ago, FalconOdense said: I see posts about Surtain at 4 and other players, but are TATF really ready to go BPA? I think when you are looking at non QBs I think that best players are Sewell and Chase... But not desperate needs? Lets say there is no trade down option. Are you all willing to take best player even though it is not a top top need like pass rusher, secondary.. I think a trade back will be available regardless, it just may not be the kings ransom that we hope to receive. Herr Doktor, vitaman and Run 'n' Shoot 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faithful Falcon Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 I don't mind Surtain or Sewell. They could be the next Deion Sanders and Bill Fralic. I'm just afraid that we may start looking like the rest of those teams. Takes me back to QB. Chris Miller was not a bad QB. He just ended up on a bad team. Bottom line. It's time to change the culture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irrelevantfalconsfan Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 4 hours ago, FalconOdense said: Yes, but is there is no trade back possibility. You dont just press a button and then you trade back to your preferred position. You need a partner who sees the value. Uh You really don't think any team will even CONSIDER trading up? There's ALWAYS a possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigSmackDaddy Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Trade down is the preferred option but if we can’t then I’m good taking Sewell or Surtain. While LT is nowhere near our biggest need we can shuffle the line to get Sewell in there and making the pick worth it. Maybe you trade Jake... he has a high salary but I have no clue what the dead money is if we were to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuego Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 In Mel Kiper’s new mock out this morning he has us taking Zack Wilson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 I think BPA always has some positional value baked in. That’s why you generally dont see off-ball LBs, RBs, WRs, OGs, OCs going top 5. There are some exceptions if a player is considered a generational talent, but even then the pick is often met w/ some scrutiny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FentayeJones Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 27 minutes ago, 1989Fan said: I think BPA always has some positional value baked in. That’s why you generally dont see off-ball LBs, RBs, WRs, OGs, OCs going top 5. There are some exceptions if a player is considered a generational talent, but even then the pick is often met w/ some scrutiny. Yeah that's why BPA varies from team to team. People try to over simplify the term BPA but there is obviously some nuance to it. Herr Doktor, rugger8 and 1989Fan 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenn.junior Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 If we do take chase its about to be reaaaal awkward between him and AJ lol thanat0s, Skin doc, OrthoPTSD and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thanat0s Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 I'm beginning to believe that our assumptions about the top of this draft might be wrong. Yes, I fully expect the top three picks to be offense, and likely QBs (Miami will likely trade out unless they like Wilson or Lance). After that? We've seen defenders get pushed up in countless drafts before, because of the premium on DL and pass rushers. Teams might figure they better get a defender now rather than wait, while the offensive side is loaded this year. Also, some of the top prospects entering the last college season sat out, so we're in a trap of making projections based on their not having played a season. NFL big boards might be entirely different than the public as it relates to these guys. As for BPA, I certainly am a fan of that, so I'd love us to take the best player we can at that spot, then figure out the roster fit later, unless that's a QB. I'm only for taking QBs when you need one, not for convenience sake. If a QB lands there, you trade out, because "BPA" at that time is whatever number of guys you can get with those extra picks. Having said all that, the likely "BPA" at 4 is going to be a WR. No one is brain damaged enough to believe we'll take say, Jamarr Chase, at 4 with Ridley and Julio on the roster. 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 BPA means many things. Is it the Best possible Player overall Available? The Best Player Available on the Falcons board? The Best Player on offense or defense? It doesn't make sense to read too much into it. Because right now the team has all new staff that are still building a draft board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thanat0s Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 4 hours ago, FalconOdense said: Yes, but is there is no trade back possibility. You don't just press a button and then you trade back to your preferred position. You need a partner who sees the value. Um. Without even thinking hard, there are a few teams who would be itching to move up for a QB at 4. Detroit, Denver, SF maybe, definitely New England, Raiders, Washington, Indy even. Even beyond that, a team in need of a Sewell or one of those top WRs might not want to wait and settle for leftovers. The idea that it's an impossibility to trade back is kind of silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Just now, thanat0s said: Um. Without even thinking hard, there are a few teams who would be itching to move up for a QB at 4. Detroit, Denver, SF maybe, definitely New England, Raiders, Washington, Indy even. Even beyond that, a team in need of a Sewell or one of those top WRs might not want to wait and settle for leftovers. The idea that it's an impossibility to trade back is kind of silly. The only team I would doubt is New England. They would never trade that high up. Belichick would rather sit where he is and take a QB later that he and McDaniels can mold. thanat0s and vitaman 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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