Wjcorner Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 25 minutes ago, AUTiger7222 said: Why are people so obsessed with arm strength like it's the only thing that matters? Some of the guys with the strongest arms I've ever seen in my life were also some of the sorriest QBs I've ever seen in my life. Remember Jeff George? He could throw it from the 20 to the 20 without effort but dude was a horrendous QB cause he had **** for brains. Give me brains over arm strength any day. Brady's never had the elite arm strength but all he's got is 6 Super Bowl rings. Because Staff has brains too. anyways, Detroit at 7 could be a decent trade down spot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonOfThemBirds Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Just now, TheTrue7 said: Not say Winston will pan out, just that many signs point with Sean Payton rolling with Winston as the guy next season. They have to re-sign him I think, but he's gonna be Brees' successor for now. ya_boi_j 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomak Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 29 minutes ago, atljbo said: That puts the Lions as one of the teams possibly trading up for a QB Good job Capt Obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrue7 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 minute ago, ya_boi_j said: You're laughing now. Win or lose, Winston has given Atlanta heIl in his career That just DOES NOT seem like the right fit. Payton and Winston.. one stealing Vicodin, the other crab legs.. I mean come on.. you gotta be thinking about resale value.. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wjcorner Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 3 minutes ago, ya_boi_j said: You're laughing now. Win or lose, Winston has given Atlanta heIl in his career Could insert 90% of starting NFL QBs and 50% of back up QBs and that statement would still be true dodge_birds_fan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ya_boi_j Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 minute ago, TheTrue7 said: That just DOES NOT seem like the right fit. Payton and Winston.. one stealing Vicodin, the other crab legs.. I mean come on.. you gotta be thinking about resale value.. 😁 I don't care anything about all that. Just sayin, don't laugh too soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrue7 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 minute ago, DonOfThemBirds said: Not say Winston will pan out, just that many signs point with Sean Payton rolling with Winston as the guy next season. They have to re-sign him I think, but he's gonna be Brees' successor for now. I just don’t see that panning out well for them, man.. I could obviously be wrong.. just seems like a bad fit to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spts1 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 28 minutes ago, AUTiger7222 said: Why are people so obsessed with arm strength like it's the only thing that matters? Some of the guys with the strongest arms I've ever seen in my life were also some of the sorriest QBs I've ever seen in my life. Remember Jeff George? He could throw it from the 20 to the 20 without effort but dude was a horrendous QB cause he had **** for brains. Give me brains over arm strength any day. Brady's never had the elite arm strength but all he's got is 6 Super Bowl rings. Arthur Smith gonna get a new quarterback... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakyfalcon Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 15 minutes ago, AUTiger7222 said: Then what does it mean if you're not talking about arm strength? You have to have the accuracy along with that strong arm to be successful. JaMarcus Russell would still be in league if playing QB was based only having the strongest arm. Stafford just had some bad luck with the Lions organization, especially in the receiving corp department since CJ retired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrue7 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 minute ago, ya_boi_j said: I don't care anything about all that. Just sayin, don't laugh too soon I know.. just introducing a little humor.. but I honestly don’t see it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 That would be sweet. ..them get an extra 1st then they trade that first and 7 to us for #4. youngbloodz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakyfalcon Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 16 minutes ago, AUTiger7222 said: He said he wasn't talking about arm strength so I don't know what he means by that. Still awaiting an answer. Come on Autiger get it right. I said better arm is not just arm strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUTiger7222 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 minute ago, freakyfalcon said: You have to have the accuracy along with that strong arm to be successful. JaMarcus Russell would still be in league if playing QB was based only having the strongest arm. Stafford just had some bad luck with the Lions organization, especially in the receiving corp department since CJ retired. Matthew Stafford is not and never has been more accurate than Matt Ryan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ya_boi_j Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Just now, TheTrue7 said: I know.. just introducing a little humor.. but I honestly don’t see it.. Never know. Sitting and learning may turn out to be the best thing that could have happened for him. DonOfThemBirds 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUTiger7222 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Just now, freakyfalcon said: Come on Autiger get it right. I said better arm is not just arm strength. When people talk about better arm they usually mean arm strength. There's only two options, arm strength or arm accuracy. I know you can't be talking accuracy so you had to be talking about arm strength. If you were talking about accuracy then you're just plain wrong. ya_boi_j and RedandBlack4ever 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrue7 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 5 minutes ago, ya_boi_j said: Never know. Sitting and learning may turn out to be the best thing that could have happened for him. You’re right.. it might.. hope for our sake I’m right though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonOfThemBirds Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 minute ago, TheTrue7 said: I just don’t see that panning out well for them, man.. I could obviously be wrong.. just seems like a bad fit to me If Winston has been working with Payton and Brees on him on his decision making on the field and ints, then he could end up being more than good enough for the Saints to win. We just need to keep an eye on him with the Saints next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakyfalcon Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Just now, AUTiger7222 said: When people talk about better arm they usually mean arm strength. There's only two options, arm strength or arm accuracy. I know you can't be talking accuracy so you had to be talking about arm strength. If you were talking about accuracy then you're just plain wrong. I would have said stronger arm in my original post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUTiger7222 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 14 minutes ago, 1989Fan said: Nah, it was a 3rd, 4th and future 3rd. Ok. I stand corrected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUTiger7222 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 13 minutes ago, JayOzOne said: Fins have a significant dearth of playmakers. They won't know what they have with Tua until they get him guys who can make plays in space. Their #3 is going to command a 🤬ton of value and we won't know what our pick is worth until they commit. To wit: They can legitimately make teams believe they're using their pick on a QB so the pot will have to be sweetened for them to trade down. And if there is a consensus third-rated QB in the draft, we can't get true value until teams know that the Fins' #3 is going to be used on another position. Our best chance to trade before the draft will be to a team that is dying to draft Sewell or sees little separation between the third and fourth rated QBs. Absolutely. Dolphins need to get Tua some help. They had a shot to beat the Chiefs this year but I lost track of how many dropped passes they had in that game. JayOzOne 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrue7 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 minute ago, DonOfThemBirds said: If Winston has been working with Payton and Brees on him on his decision making on the field and ints, then he could end up being more than good enough for the Saints to win. We just need to keep an eye on him with the Saints next season. Honestly, I’d say it would be more interesting watching the competition between him and Hill, and how each handles the decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROMERO Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 9 minutes ago, Spts1 said: Arthur Smith gonna get a new quarterback... and it wont be Fields 😂😂😂 AUTiger7222 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 11 minutes ago, FentayeJones said: I can see the Lions getting A 1st and a 2nd rounder for Stafford... Then using that 7th pick and the extra 2nd round pick they get this year and a 2022 2nd round to move u to 4....... They would still have the 4th pick, whoevers 1st round pick, and their own 2nd round pick. We could grab Caleb Farley or Surtain with the 7th pick and would have two 2nd rounders this year and next year FalconOdense and Fernando C. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 16 minutes ago, nomak said: Good job Capt Obvious. appreciate it nomak and AUTiger7222 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonOfThemBirds Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 minute ago, TheTrue7 said: Honestly, I’d say it would be more interesting watching the competition between him and Hill, and how each handles the decision. I think Sean Payton saw enough of Hill during those few games starting. I think Payton continues to use Hill as the gadget QB with Winston replacing Brees. There's a reason why Payton hasn't used Winston much at all on the field outside of that one 2nd half of the game where Brees got hurt. Payton may have wanted to Winston to sit just about all this season and have the off-season to be coached up for next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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