SavedByGrace1221 257 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Starting to see many Mocks where we may land our Future QB . ...but there is a problem... He may not be there at #4 ...... Here's hoping we get a little sunshine on our long , dark road ahead !!! Falcster, PokerSteve, Dirtier Bird and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marvinthemartian 5,432 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 5 minutes ago, SavedByGrace1221 said: Starting to see many Mocks where we may land our Future QB . ...but there is a problem... He may not be there at #4 ...... Here's hoping we get a little sunshine on our long , dark road ahead !!! I would be happy if we got him. I would also be happy, and perhaps happier, if we traded that pick to somebody out of our division and preferably out of our conference for a boat load of picks. papachaz, campdirtybirdz, Rings and 25 others 24 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post jidady 10,417 Posted January 23 Popular Post Share Posted January 23 I hope the train picks up enough steam that if he's there at #4, we can get a fortune trading out of that spot! kirbyr, egoprime II, celtiksage and 34 others 28 8 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
celtiksage 2,818 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Yep. I hope everyone wants him or Fields or whomever is still available. Either one will work. As long as QBs don't go 1, 2 and 3, we should have 3 or 4 trade offers. We do it and rake someone for next year's 1st and 2 or 3 picks this year, and I'll dub our new boss Fonte-rogue. 😏😏 Sportsman2593, Macknsweetjones, blknoble357 and 8 others 7 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SavedByGrace1221 257 Posted January 23 Author Share Posted January 23 24 minutes ago, jidady said: I hope the train picks up enough steam that if he's there at #4, we can get a fortune trading out of that spot! I can understand the desire for multiple picks , but why would you want to pass on a future starting QB ( maybe even a young Aaron Rodgers - like talent ) ?? The only conclusion I can come up with is that most of you think a new coach/GM will suddenly make us a playoff team next year. Or maybe Smith will have a Shanahan type of effect on Ryan. I don't see it. Ryan is in decline, Julio likes the sideline more then the playing field , plus we have to go through a whole new scheme. We are a few years away from being any threat .. get the future QB now , sit behind Ryan for a year .. maybe 2 ...Retool, regroup and rebuild for our Future !!! sappy1, blknoble357, ADAMSVILLE GYM and 3 others 3 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Knight of God 53,928 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 2 minutes ago, SavedByGrace1221 said: I can understand the desire for multiple picks , but why would you want to pass on a future starting QB ( maybe even a young Aaron Rodgers - like talent ) ?? The only conclusion I can come up with is that most of you think a new coach/GM will suddenly make us a playoff team next year. Or maybe Smith will have a Shanahan type of effect on Ryan. I don't see it. Ryan is in decline, Julio likes the sideline more then the playing field , plus we have to go through a whole new scheme. We are a few years away from being any threat .. get the future QB now , sit behind Ryan for a year .. maybe 2 ...Retool, regroup and rebuild for our Future !!! Or dont believe in the Wilson hype. That's always a possibility. Ergo Proxy, Fernando C., Falcons Beach Bum and 19 others 16 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ovie_Lover 29,825 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 3 minutes ago, Knight of God said: Or dont believe in the Wilson hype. That's always a possibility. I like Wilson. What don’t you like about him? Atl Falcon, PokerSteve and blknoble357 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconsIn2012 35,705 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 4 minutes ago, Knight of God said: Or dont believe in the Wilson hype. That's always a possibility. Or draft Fields. It’s more likely that he is there at 4th than Wilson (of the two I’ll take Wilson though) Macknsweetjones, blknoble357 and Draftnut57 1 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kiwifalcon 19,760 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Awesome I’ll take 1,2,4 and next years 1,2 & 4 thanks. Sold Zach Wilson he’s all yours. papachaz, booty-mane, JohnnyFranchise and 6 others 5 2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jidady 10,417 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 8 minutes ago, SavedByGrace1221 said: why would you want to pass on a future starting QB ( maybe even a young Aaron Rodgers - like talent ) ?? A few reasons: Jameis Winston Marcus Mariota (who I liked) Carson Wentz Mitch Trubinsky Sam Darnold Five out of the last eight QBs who went top 5 in the draft fall somewhere between underachieving and being total busts. Then, there's the up and down careers of Jared Goff and Baker Mayfield. At this point, the only recent top 5 pick who looks like an unqualified success is Kyler Murray. Also -- and here's the only point that matters -- Tampa Bay scored on every drive but one against us. Brady made a mistake that gifted us an interception. If not for that, they would have scored each time they touched the ball. Unless Wilson can rush the passer and tackle ballcarriers, he doesn't help this team. If we draft a QB at #4, I'll immediately question the foresight of the new coaching staff. dawgsfan426, falcons007, Knight of God and 17 others 17 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jetpac 306 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 49 minutes ago, jidady said: I hope the train picks up enough steam that if he's there at #4, we can get a fortune trading out of that spot! Noh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PuppyMonster 311 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 5 minutes ago, Ovie_Lover said: I like Wilson. What don’t you like about him? His face. Just kidding (but not really). But honestly, he did have a great season. Very Joe Burrow-esque against very non-SEC level opponents without Joe Burrow's stacked receiving corps. Ovie_Lover and PokerSteve 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jidady 10,417 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Just now, jetpac said: Noh. Yeh. papachaz, Aleksandr sportolli, Knight of God and 1 other 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jetpac 306 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 15 minutes ago, SavedByGrace1221 said: I can understand the desire for multiple picks , but why would you want to pass on a future starting QB ( maybe even a young Aaron Rodgers - like talent ) ?? The only conclusion I can come up with is that most of you think a new coach/GM will suddenly make us a playoff team next year. Or maybe Smith will have a Shanahan type of effect on Ryan. I don't see it. Ryan is in decline, Julio likes the sideline more then the playing field , plus we have to go through a whole new scheme. We are a few years away from being any threat .. get the future QB now , sit behind Ryan for a year .. maybe 2 ...Retool, regroup and rebuild for our Future !!! Go look back at some of these posters in the past. They want Glenn Dorsey over Matt Ryan and wanted to trade back then As well JonesinForSomeIce, PokerSteve and SavedByGrace1221 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jesus 26,624 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Thank God sports writers aren't general managers. papachaz, celtiksage, wuskillzz and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconFanSince1969 15,685 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 I thought this thread might have some actual information and i open it to find out that supposed 'steam' is mock drafts? Ban. booty-mane, Ergo Proxy, TheTrue7 and 5 others 3 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jidady 10,417 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 2 minutes ago, jetpac said: Go look back at some of these posters in the past. They want Glenn Dorsey over Matt Ryan and wanted to trade back then As well And some other posters vanish and then create new accounts because their track records are so comically inept that they have to etch-a-sketch their entire existence away! Right, guy who remembers stuff from 2008 but only has 533 posts! falcons007, Ergo Proxy, kiwifalcon and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconsIn2012 35,705 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 8 minutes ago, kiwifalcon said: Awesome I’ll take 1,2,4 and next years 1,2 & 4 thanks. Sold Zach Wilson he’s all yours. I love Wilson or Fields but I’d do that in a second. Would let us rebuild and add much needed depth JohnnyFranchise 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconsIn2012 35,705 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 8 minutes ago, jidady said: A few reasons: Jameis Winston Marcus Mariota (who I liked) Carson Wentz Mitch Trubinsky Sam Darnold Five out of the last eight QBs who went top 5 in the draft fall somewhere between underachieving and being total busts. Then, there's the up and down careers of Jared Goff and Baker Mayfield. At this point, the only recent top 5 pick who looks like an unqualified success is Kyler Murray. Also -- and here's the only point that matters -- Tampa Bay scored on every drive but one against us. Brady made a mistake that gifted us an interception. If not for that, they would have scored each time they touched the ball. Unless Wilson can rush the passer and tackle ballcarriers, he doesn't help this team. If we draft a QB at #4, I'll immediately question the foresight of the new coaching staff. I think it had less to do with being a top 5 pick and more to do with the franchise that drafted them PokerSteve, Kaptain Krazy and Macknsweetjones 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jesus 26,624 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 2 minutes ago, FalconsIn2012 said: I think it had less to do with being a top 5 pick and more to do with the franchise that drafted them 3 of those 5 franchise's were in the playoffs this year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyFranchise 2,660 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 6 minutes ago, jidady said: And some other posters vanish and then create new accounts because their track records are so comically inept that they have to etch-a-sketch their entire existence away! Right, guy who remembers stuff from 2008 but only has 533 posts! Knight of God and Ergo Proxy 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconsIn2012 35,705 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 minute ago, Jesus said: 3 of those 5 franchise's were in the playoffs this year. I’m talking where they were when they drafted those players Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jidady 10,417 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 8 minutes ago, FalconsIn2012 said: I think it had less to do with being a top 5 pick and more to do with the franchise that drafted them Scheme and coaching matter more than anyone could ever understood when it comes to highly drafted players. That's a given. However, we're far from an ideal spot right now. A young QB will hold the ball longer, and we cannot protect a former MVP veteran who knows to get the ball out on schedule. We really need a high-quality guard and center now, presuming Mack doesn't return. McGary only had a 64.1 grade from PFF this year, and Hennessy only made the field for 225 snaps. And he was terrible on those. When we drafted Matt, we also traded up for Baker to protect him. If we invest in a QB at #4, we'd need to spend similar draft capital on linemen this year. That's problematic given how weak our defense is. These are all reasons NOT to draft a QB rather than justification to do so. anm263, Run 'n' Shoot, FalconsIn2012 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wristtwitch 245 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Picking up steam by 4 eyes behind a keyboard more than likely. And hopefully only them. Ergo Proxy and Pacific_Falcon 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SavedByGrace1221 257 Posted January 23 Author Share Posted January 23 4 minutes ago, jidady said: Scheme and coaching matter more than anyone could ever understood when it comes to highly drafted players. That's a given. However, we're far from an ideal spot right now. A young QB will hold the ball longer, and we cannot protect a former MVP veteran who knows to get the ball out on schedule. We really need a high-quality guard and center now, presuming Mack doesn't return. McGary only had a 64.1 grade from PFF this year, and Hennessy only made the field for 225. And he was terrible on those. When we drafted Matt, we also traded up for Baker to protect him. If invest in a QB at #4, we'd need to spend similar draft capital on linemen this year. That's problematic given how weak our defense is. These are all reasons NOT to draft a QB rather than justification to do so. So wait until our QB , who is already in decline , gets a few years older and further declines , then draft our QB to start year 1 ?? PokerSteve, Falcster, Macknsweetjones and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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