Falcons Fan MVP 3,951 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Hopefully Dean Pees coaching can help our players improve. thanat0s and RedandBlack4ever 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nomak 4,744 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 I'm expecting so. If they can't learn from Pees, they should consider leaving the league. Falcons Fan MVP, Herr Doktor, booty-mane and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MayorWest13 2,715 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 https://www.musiccitymiracles.com/2019/7/29/20692918/how-the-titans-switchable-defense-is-evolving-to-keep-up-with-modern-offenses Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1989Fan 16,177 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Not sure on Fowler, but hoping MD improves just due to being healthy and in game condition. Both surely underwhelmed this year. Let’s see if Fowler is still on the roster week 1 as well. I think he saves $3M as a cut and over $8M as a post 6/1 cut. Not sure about trades. I could see them giving him one more year, at least up to the trade deadline as long as our cap situation allows it. celtiksage and Francis York Morgan 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconofShadows 1,368 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Who knows about fowler but maybe if he gets too stand up more he will be better and a 3-4(if they go mainly with that formation) can help scheme rushers easily to get better matchup. For Davidson I give him a pass because he had a crazy year covid injury then having to try to get into shape when missing I think all training camp and most of season. Can't expect an all-star player even if he was a top 5 prospect in that situation falcons007 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Herr Doktor 8,708 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 42 minutes ago, Falcons Fan MVP said: Hopefully Dean Pees coaching can help our players improve. Marlon was hurt. Hard to go anywhere but up for him. Fowler? Thats the question. Perhaps with a scheme that works within his skillet, we might see a huge improvement. And if he was a hurt as he contends, maybe a dramatic turn around. Who knows? falcons007, Falcons Fan MVP, Ezekiel 25:17 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Da_Truth 1,927 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 47 minutes ago, MayorWest13 said: https://www.musiccitymiracles.com/2019/7/29/20692918/how-the-titans-switchable-defense-is-evolving-to-keep-up-with-modern-offenses "...these players are hybrids who straddle the line between linebacker and safety and they’re absolutely critical to defending modern offenses. These are guys that can cover an athletic tight end or wide receiver and also thump in the box on run plays." Maybe DQ was on to something with the hybrid players, but ran the wrong defensive scheme. Based on this article the Falcons may hold on to Neal or draft a younger, cheaper hybrid safety/LB. capitan and GrimeyKidd 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PointSwayzee 835 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) Think Fowler gets cut, or hope he does. I detested Beasley on the field, just hated the guy. I think Beasley is better than Fowler...that is not an easy thing to type. Massive bust...what position was Fowler drafted again?? 😉 Edited January 23 by PointSwayzee ZoneOne01, celtiksage and Rings 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Draftnut57 4,323 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 No doubt about it. But we still should draft a couple in the top of the draft to make sure this need is taken care of. Yeap! I said two.. We have got to make sure this weakness is taken care of once and for all. Would not surprise me, we need two. celtiksage 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mister pudding 3,506 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 22 minutes ago, Herr Doktor said: Marlon was hurt. Hard to go anywhere but up for him. Fowler? Thats the question. Perhaps with a scheme that works within his skillet, we might see a huge improvement. And if he was a hurt as he contends, maybe a dramatic turn around. Who knows? Marlon was on covid reserve once and had an minor ankle injury... there was NO excuse that he was a coaches decision inactive many games with our trash defense Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Draftnut57 4,323 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 2 minutes ago, Mister pudding said: Marlon was on covid reserve once and had an minor ankle injury... there was NO excuse that he was a coaches decision inactive many games with our trash defense I think we have to cover every position if there are any players we may not be able to depend on.. For what ever reason that may be. If there is any doubt, WE need to get that position ready and set to go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MarkMc44 238 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 22 minutes ago, Da_Truth said: "...these players are hybrids who straddle the line between linebacker and safety and they’re absolutely critical to defending modern offenses. These are guys that can cover an athletic tight end or wide receiver and also thump in the box on run plays." Maybe DQ was on to something with the hybrid players, but ran the wrong defensive scheme. Based on this article the Falcons may hold on to Neal or draft a younger, cheaper hybrid safety/LB. Jaylinn Hawkins might be a fit. Neal is one of our best players and a difference maker. We need to keep these types! GO FALCONS!!!! Da_Truth 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mister pudding 3,506 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 11 minutes ago, Draftnut57 said: I think we have to cover every position if there are any players we may not be able to depend on.. For what ever reason that may be. If there is any doubt, WE need to get that position ready and set to go. Talented 2nd round pick and he had no chance.. not saying we cant draft a DT or NT in the draft, but I'm not looking at it as a weakness just yet Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rings 7,590 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 12 minutes ago, Draftnut57 said: I think we have to cover every position if there are any players we may not be able to depend on.. For what ever reason that may be. If there is any doubt, WE need to get that position ready and set to go. Agreed. His defenses normally had good to great safeties, CBs and linebackers, seemed like rotating pieces that did really well on the line but let walk and restocked well that still created pressure, those players fizzled out once they left that scheme too. Will be interesting to see what they address this off-season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
red falcon 4,968 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) I hope so, they almost gave us nothing last year. I give the rook a pass, fowler was hurt and didnt really have anyone across from him. You kind of need to pass rushers or a lead scoring wise. Edited January 23 by red falcon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faithful Falcon 8,219 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 If we are talking about a 3-4 Defense, then yes. Fowler thrived in the 3-4 in LA. Davidson really didn't play much this year, so it will be hard to say about him. I do think that he and Grady would be better fits at 3-4 DEs, with a big NT in the middle. RedandBlack4ever, Williamb and capitan 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PointSwayzee 835 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 8 minutes ago, MarkMc44 said: Jaylinn Hawkins might be a fit. Neal is one of our best players and a difference maker. We need to keep these types! GO FALCONS!!!! Neal is a good comeback story and played average football at best, well below average in coverage. Where to you play him if you resign him? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Friendly Folk 1,510 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 I have wondered if our players were bad or if they were just poorly coached during the Quinn years. I think the answer will come when the rosters are set before week 1. If Pees believes a player is good and just need to be coached up, he stays. If not, he won’t be on the roster. Pretty simple. I think it will be a mix of both. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
octoslash 18,255 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Frankly about mid November I forgot Davidson was even on the team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Draftnut57 4,323 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 50 minutes ago, red falcon said: I hope so, they almost gave us nothing last year. I give the rook a pass, fowler was hurt and didnt really have anyone across from him. You kind of need to pass rushers or a lead scoring wise. And this is the reason why we have a whole new set of Coaches that will be drafting for this team... To be honest.. I'm really happy about the new Leaders .. HC OC and DC and all those Coaches under them.. Sing it with me.. $ It's gonna be a bright bright sun shinny Day``$ red falcon and RedandBlack4ever 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ShmevinShmarris 3,109 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 hour ago, PointSwayzee said: Think Fowler gets cut, or hope he does. I detested Beasley on the field, just hated the guy. I think Beasley is better than Fowler...that is not an easy thing to type. Massive bust...what position was Fowler drafted again?? 😉 Fowler was surprisingly consistent in the run game Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PointSwayzee 835 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 3 minutes ago, ShmevinShmarris said: Fowler was surprisingly consistent in the run game So was JA98. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Snafu 7,047 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mister pudding said: Marlon was on covid reserve once and had an minor ankle injury... there was NO excuse that he was a coaches decision inactive many games with our trash defense Ehhhhh, I'm gonna reserve judgment. Covid affects people different. I'm a pretty in-shape dude and it put me on my *** for about 3 weeks. Literally no energy and couldn't stay awake for more than probably 3 hours at a time. I'm still feeling some of the effects of it nearly a month after testing negative. Edited January 23 by Snafu Jpg428gggg and falcons007 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thanat0s 5,366 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 hour ago, Herr Doktor said: Marlon was hurt. Hard to go anywhere but up for him. Fowler? Thats the question. Perhaps with a scheme that works within his skillet, we might see a huge improvement. And if he was a hurt as he contends, maybe a dramatic turn around. Who knows? I hope so. We seriously need 8-10 sacks from him and consistent pressure on the edge. We can’t bank on landing two pass rushers this offseason. falcons007 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thanat0s 5,366 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Just now, Snafu said: Ehhhhh, I'm gonna reserve judgment. Covid affects people different. I'm a pretty in-shape dude and it put me on my *** for about 3 weeks. I'm still feeling some of the effects of it nearly a month after testing negative. Yeah, for sure it’s an oddball virus. I’ve seen folks like you be down and out, and others who are out of shape barely have symptoms. I’m in the middle, 52, and my symptoms were very mild compared to others. My 91 year old aunt spent 3 days in the hospital, and was running around her house like usual lol Let’s see him with a year under his belt. falcons007 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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