falcons007 22,476 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 23 minutes ago, jetpac said: They were bad, we passed on TJ Watt for Takk..... Oh man oh man. Would TJ Watt do the same with DQs defense? That Steelers defense is nasty from top to bottom. RedandBlack4ever and ATLskinjob 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jetpac 336 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 minutes ago, falcons007 said: Would TJ Watt do the same with DQs defense? That Steelers defense is nasty from top to bottom. He'd be better than Takk. RedandBlack4ever and AUTiger7222 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tandy 18,242 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 5 hours ago, MattM12 said: I'll admit i'm surprised he hasn't landed a GM gig. My feeling is he will, if not this year, next. Sidenote: His last draft isn't looking too shabby, is it? I may be wrong - and I don't have a link, but I seem to recall in an interview that he wanted to reassess and look at his options going forward before stepping back into the arena. MattM12, RedandBlack4ever, papachaz and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Duff_Man 12,059 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 TD is a good, professional guy with a ton of experience. He will land somewhere if he chooses to pursue a GM job. Although, I could see him landing a TV gig. He's pretty good in front of a camera. MattM12 and Geneaut 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ghosts of Glanville 3,389 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 4 hours ago, Jesus said: The Falcons are still paying him for his contract. That's not a bad job. And there is likely a clause that he forfeits his Falcons salary if he takes another job before the contract expires. So he can A) take a job in Detroit, and try to fix a hopeless franchise with old lady Ford breathing down his neck, or B ) keep getting paid by AB and wait for a better opportunity. which do you take? Tandy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jesus 25,668 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 45 minutes ago, Ghosts of Glanville said: And there is likely a clause that he forfeits his Falcons salary if he takes another job before the contract expires. So he can A) take a job in Detroit, and try to fix a hopeless franchise with old lady Ford breathing down his neck, or B ) keep getting paid by AB and wait for a better opportunity. which do you take? He's got kids in school in ATL. Pretty good chance he waits out the school year before finding a place to relocate them. Tandy and Ovie_Lover 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jpg428gggg 1,671 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 5 hours ago, athell said: My goodness some of you are petulent children. Dude put together at least 2 Superbowl winning rosters that coaches derailed. He had his flaws, specifically in the trenches, but he was a good GM. Besides he's gone...move on... Exactly. I met him at training camp the year we went to the Super Bowl. I was with a group where he let us ask questions about the team. He was personable and honest until an idiot asked about spygate/deflategate. You could tell that he had a lot of confidence in that roster and he was right. It should have ended with a Superbowl... He has been without a doubt the best GM we have ever had and I wish him nothing but the best. Things didn't work out towards the end but I think that was because we panicked and made some bad decisions. There are a lot of teams over the last decade that wish he was there GM. kiwifalcon, falconsfan84, ATLskinjob and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jpg428gggg 1,671 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, Duff_Man said: TD is a good, professional guy with a ton of experience. He will land somewhere if he chooses to pursue a GM job. Although, I could see him landing a TV gig. He's pretty good in front of a camera. I could see him working for a network. He is very insightful and definitely has the hair to be on TV... Tandy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ShmevinShmarris 3,066 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 6 hours ago, Refried Beans said: I was not happy when he took AJ Terrell but it looks like he hit on that one. But VB and Tak both not making it and his inability to draft linemen sealed his fate. You cant whiff that may times in the first round and keep your job. If an edge rusher with Vics measurables is there at 8 you take him every time. People forget how big of a hole it was at the time. ATLskinjob 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mister pudding 2,523 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 I'm pretty sure he applied for the Assistant Manager position at Taco Bell. Fingers crossed! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falconcheff 5,492 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 6 hours ago, Herr Doktor said: Honestly, they weren't horrible selections. Not big reaches. The only knock to me was Takk was hurt and never really got over his injuries. And VB was injured, but in his mind, not physically. Those are injuries you don't see. Its hard to judge a man's heart. Beasley was definitely just a miss; it happens. Takk seems to be the bigger mistake with TJ Watt still on the board...sometimes you just gotta go with the smarter decision over the high risk/reward project... AUTiger7222 and Herr Doktor 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tmodel66 382 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 He's gone, but his/our salary cap isn't. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
papachaz 18,834 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 they're probably going better than most of your threads.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Herr Doktor 6,111 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 26 minutes ago, Falconcheff said: Beasley was definitely just a miss; it happens. Takk seems to be the bigger mistake with TJ Watt still on the board...sometimes you just gotta go with the smarter decision over the high risk/reward project... Very true. Swung big and stuck out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MattM12 1,446 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 hours ago, Falconcheff said: Beasley was definitely just a miss; it happens. Takk seems to be the bigger mistake with TJ Watt still on the board...sometimes you just gotta go with the smarter decision over the high risk/reward project... Not to single you out at all Cheff, but VB was really NOT a swing and a miss. The man was a consensus top 10 pick and literally led the league in sacks one year. He totalled 37.5 in the ATL over 5 years. Jamal Anderson over 4 years? 4 1/2.... TD's mistake? Holding out hope that he would find the dog in him as opposed to letting him walk. The much bigger mistake was managing the man. Look squarely at a HC, a DC or DL if you have problems with Vic's effort. The above notwithstanding, I'm glad to see where this thread has gone, with people giving the man his props as a really good General Manager. Best we've seen. Fernando C. and papachaz 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kiwifalcon 19,401 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 8 hours ago, jetpac said: They were bad, we passed on TJ Watt for Takk..... Oh man oh man. Could have been worse at least he didn’t pick JA98 or Aundray Bruce. papachaz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconFanSince1970 24,515 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Beasley was a pure need pick. Had he gone BPA we would have had Gurley in his prime and still could have taken a pass rusher like P. Smith, Clark, Hunter or Z. Smith later. Tandy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
⚡Slumerican⚡ 5,782 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Troff has always been a Belichick boy.. Honestly look for Bill to bring him in as a consultant if nothing arises from his GM interests.. Im still kinda shocked Dallas took DQ as a DC.. But it seems JJ has no shame when it comes to hires. We'll see Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EuroFalcon 218 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 I'd hire TD as a GM. You'll take competence for granted and expect nothing less then greatness without any foundation why you'd deserve it. How many GM's have failed horribly during TD's tenure? You might hate me for that but to be frank at least half the league has been worst off then the Falcons since his arrival. By now his weaknesses are well known so you can hire advisors to fill in his gaps. For instance I'd take him over Trent Baalke if I was the Jags. One thing the fans of this franchise don't seem to understand is that "very good" is still better then what most teams have to deal with. Just because Fontenot is a flashy shiny new thing is 0 guarantee he'll be better then TD. Just like whatever QB you all want to waste the #4 pick on is in no way guaranteed to be better then Ryan (who by now has average statistics*) *For a HOF QB. And some of you wanted to trade him straight up for Jake Locker back in 2013 Dukeduke211, Fiercefalcon, ATLskinjob and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dukeduke211 656 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 9 hours ago, xSICKxWITHxITx said: I put VB and Tak more on Quinn, but who knows. Smart man!!! GM isn't picking players the HC hasn't already endorsed. ATLskinjob 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dukeduke211 656 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 5 minutes ago, EuroFalcon said: I'd hire TD as a GM. You'll take competence for granted and expect nothing less then greatness without any foundation why you'd deserve it. How many GM's have failed horribly during TD's tenure? You might hate me for that but to be frank at least half the league has been worst off then the Falcons since his arrival. By now his weaknesses are well known so you can hire advisors to fill in his gaps. For instance I'd take him over Trent Baalke if I was the Jags. One thing the fans of this franchise don't seem to understand is that "very good" is still better then what most teams have to deal with. Just because Fontenot is a flashy shiny new thing is 0 guarantee he'll be better then TD. Just like whatever QB you all want to waste the #4 pick on is in no way guaranteed to be better then Ryan (who by now has average statistics*) *For a HOF QB. And some of you wanted to trade him straight up for Jake Locker back in 2013 TF will be picking AS's guys like always. Not sure why this is so misunderstood. Now TF may be able to convince AS... He isn't going to force players om him though or they will be done. Just like MS and DQ with Dimitroff. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dukeduke211 656 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 24 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1970 said: Beasley was a pure need pick. Had he gone BPA we would have had Gurley in his prime and still could have taken a pass rusher like P. Smith, Clark, Hunter or Z. Smith later. Dled was right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ovie_Lover 29,592 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 This just reeks of “look how much prettier my new gf is” Ew... papachaz and AUTiger7222 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
papachaz 18,834 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 hour ago, Ovie_Lover said: This just reeks of “look how much prettier my new gf is” Ew... well, IF he'd ever had a new gf maybe he'd understand what you're trying to say....... ATLskinjob and Ovie_Lover 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 22,476 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 hour ago, FalconFanSince1970 said: Beasley was a pure need pick. Had he gone BPA we would have had Gurley in his prime and still could have taken a pass rusher like P. Smith, Clark, Hunter or Z. Smith later. Lol. What did Gurley do with Rams. Couldn’t even win a SB, terrible in SB. Heck he couldn’t even had winning season before McVay took over and turned around Goff and got other weapons. AUTiger7222 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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