Mister pudding 2,597 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 minute ago, Rings said: Unless they believe in Donald, which I don’t know that you should, but new regime who knows. They need help at. ... *checks depth chart* ... literally every position. How is Fant still in the league? I dont think Darnold is really worth giving up on just yet.. they know they need virtually everything, which is why they got that haul for their safety.. i think they need a name too though. Walter Football has them picking him at 23 too Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atl Falcon 3,952 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 5 hours ago, belmont4213 said: Sure. But it doesn’t mean you HAVE to draft one this year at 4. It means that you can trade down or take BPA this year and then draft a QB over the next couple of years and have similar odds that they’ll be a stud, even if you’re picking from a playoff draft position. its just a fallacy to think that we must draft a QB at 4 because this is our only chance to ever get a good one Doesn’t mean you shouldn’t draft one either. I would take Wilson in a heart beat at 4 and hope Fontenot thinks the same way...if not hopefully Fields. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atl Falcon 3,952 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 3 hours ago, kiwifalcon said: But isn’t an elite back. Thats the whole idea of outside zone you don’t need an elite back to excel in it. The bottom line is we need an elite RB for MR2 to be effective in PA. Girly Ito and Hill all pretty much suck. Mister pudding 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rings 6,718 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, kenn.junior said: Wentz offense weapons has been injured since their SB run where has jeffery been where have D Jack been his Line has been injured for the last 2 years look what he did at the end of last year his team had a bunch of UDFA playing and this year he was the most sacked qb in the league. Goff was bad early but was better since McVay but that Rams offense have been not as good since they lost to the Pats but still he hasnt been a bust So you’re ready to move on from Ryan but stick up for Wentz and Goff? Makes sense. 2020 PFF Grade 11. Ryan 22. Goff 34. Wentz Smiler11 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rings 6,718 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, Mister pudding said: I dont think Darnold is really worth giving up on just yet.. they know they need virtually everything, which is why they got that haul for their safety.. i think they need a name too though. Walter Football has them picking him at 23 too Walter Football is not a great source imo, looks like a kid in the 90’s made a website on geocities. I know DJ had Etienne going there as well, but this early in the process with a new regime, they are just throwing darts to see what sticks. They are just guesses and are only marginally better than ones you or I would make at this point, especially that late in the round it gets muddy. Mister pudding 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kenn.junior 786 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 3 minutes ago, Rings said: So you’re ready to move on from Ryan but stick up for Wentz and Goff? Makes sense. 2020 PFF Grade 11. Ryan 22. Goff 34. Wentz no who said i was ready to move on from Matt i love matt i was one of the people sticking up for him this whole season matt’s never been the problem ever since he has been here its always been the trash defense on why we been so bad for so long. But if we draft a qb i wont be mad cuz i know thats a future move not a now move he will just replace matt when he leaves Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mister pudding 2,597 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 9 minutes ago, Rings said: Walter Football is not a great source imo, looks like a kid in the 90’s made a website on geocities. I know DJ had Etienne going there as well, but this early in the process with a new regime, they are just throwing darts to see what sticks. They are just guesses and are only marginally better than ones you or I would make at this point, especially that late in the round it gets muddy. I have no skin in the game regarding the Jets... my initial point was that Najee won't be there when we pick in the 2nd round Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mister pudding 2,597 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, Atl Falcon said: The bottom line is we need an elite RB for MR2 to be effective in PA. Girly Ito and Hill all pretty much suck. Yes, at running and blocking from what i saw Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EpicBird 508 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Najee Harris is a nice to have but toot a must have. Javonte Williams also plays like a man amongst boys and could be taken in the 2nd, easily, and maybe the 3rd. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kiwifalcon 19,421 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 hours ago, Atl Falcon said: The bottom line is we need an elite RB for MR2 to be effective in PA. Girly Ito and Hill all pretty much suck. No we don’t. How are you working this out we.Ryan’s only ever had that sought of back once in his career in a short term with Turner. Yet he was league MVP with a RBBC and the wide zone scheme which we will use again. So why do we need an elite back when all we need is a scheme fit for the RB and MR2? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atl Falcon 3,952 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 hour ago, kiwifalcon said: No we don’t. How are you working this out we.Ryan’s only ever had that sought of back once in his career in a short term with Turner. Yet he was league MVP with a RBBC and the wide zone scheme which we will use again. So why do we need an elite back when all we need is a scheme fit for the RB and MR2? If the quality of RB doesn’t matter I guess we definitely don’t need to draft one. Scheme fit matters but you better not take a butter knife to a gun fight pal Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rings 6,718 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 2 hours ago, Mister pudding said: I have no skin in the game regarding the Jets... my initial point was that Najee won't be there when we pick in the 2nd round You don’t know that, no one does. Why even say “this person won’t be at this spot”. You have no clue will will fall, it happens every year that people fall. Running backs have gone later and later every year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kiwifalcon 19,421 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 51 minutes ago, Atl Falcon said: If the quality of RB doesn’t matter I guess we definitely don’t need to draft one. Scheme fit matters but you better not take a butter knife to a gun fight pal That’s why it makes sense to run a wide zone scheme you don’t need to over invest.It’s proven time and time again. We did it here with Teco and Free San Fran did it with Mostert Brieda and Teco Ravens had the lead rusher in the league with Forsett all behind a wide zone scheme. Non of those guys are elite rushers but there scheme fits. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atl Falcon 3,952 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 minute ago, kiwifalcon said: That’s why it makes sense to run a wide zone scheme you don’t need to over invest.It’s proven time and time again. We did it here with Teco and Free San Fran did it with Mostert Brieda and Teco Ravens had the lead rusher in the league with Forsett all behind a wide zone scheme. Non of those guys are elite rushers but there scheme fits. That makes sense kiwi Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mister pudding 2,597 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 39 minutes ago, Rings said: You don’t know that, no one does. Why even say “this person won’t be at this spot”. You have no clue will will fall, it happens every year that people fall. Running backs have gone later and later every year. Well then, maybe Lawrence will be there at 4, you think? If Najee is there at 36, I'd gobble him up, but I'm not gonna hold my breath. Yes people drop for various reasons. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rings 6,718 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 hour ago, Mister pudding said: Well then, maybe Lawrence will be there at 4, you think? If Najee is there at 36, I'd gobble him up, but I'm not gonna hold my breath. Yes people drop for various reasons. If Lawrence murders someone he may fall. But he is very different. Lawrence has been known as the top pick for the last three years so it’s unlikely, possible, but very unlikely. Predicting who slides at back half is obviously much harder. One of the top backs will be there at the our second pick, which is actually 35. (Teams with tied records rotate every round). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lju713 1,299 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 What if he took Sewell at 4 and trade back into the low end of the 1st and get Harris 😉 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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