PeytonMannings Forehead 27,502 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 2 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1969 said: I'm a little worried with how our lbs would fit in a 3-4. I know traditionally that your ilb in a 3-4 is bigger than deebo and more of a thumper and that your olbs are typically 6'5'' guys who can do it all really. If we make this switch tho I'd love to see us being in zaven collins somehow. That’s the old school 3-4 with those huge blood and guts defenses. Nobody really runs that as much anymore. Even the hardcore 3-4 guys, they play more with a shade. And their personnel is built more for adaptability and speed. The edge is where we’re going to have to uncover a gem to really get this thing going... but that’s been every year here. Expert Poster, Godzilla1985, Ergo Proxy and 8 others 9 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falconsd56 25,726 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 4 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1969 said: I'm a little worried with how our lbs would fit in a 3-4. I know traditionally that your ilb in a 3-4 is bigger than deebo and more of a thumper and that your olbs are typically 6'5'' guys who can do it all really. If we make this switch tho I'd love to see us being in zaven collins somehow. I actually like the idea of a 3-4 with the guys we have. Grady showed that he could be productive as a 3-4 end when we ran it a few times later in the season and I think Davidson could thrive in it PokerSteve 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kenn.junior 777 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 9 minutes ago, Michael Scott said: By the way, what are we gonna call our new coach so as not to confuse him with other Falcon icons? Arthur and Smitty are the obvious confusions. Arty? Or AS? i been using Arty Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PeytonMannings Forehead 27,502 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 minute ago, kenn.junior said: you dont like him PMF Not the move I would have made but Pees is not garbage. He’s a darn good coach. I expect us to get better. But just getting better isn’t what I’m looking for at this point. Da_Truth, ratesforless, AUTiger7222 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconFanSince1969 14,157 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 3 minutes ago, PeytonMannings Forehead said: That’s the old school 3-4 with those huge blood and guts defenses. Nobody really runs that as much anymore. Even the hardcore 3-4 guys, they play more with a shade. And their personnel is built more for adaptability and speed. The edge is where we’re going to have to uncover a gem to really get this thing going... but that’s been every year here. I think collins could thrive in that role. He can literally do it all. Him and fowler will give us pretty good ends. Where does foye fit? The other ilb spot? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
celtiksage 1,895 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Micah Parsons in the middle with Debo? 😁 blknoble357, Cheyakita and 1989Fan 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PeytonMannings Forehead 27,502 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 minute ago, FalconFanSince1969 said: I think collins could thrive in that role. He can literally do it all. Him and fowler will give us pretty good ends. Where does foye fit? The other ilb spot? Yeah Foye and Debo would be the two inside backers. Ergo Proxy, Knight of God, blknoble357 and 1 other 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kenn.junior 777 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 minute ago, PeytonMannings Forehead said: Not the move I would have made but Pees is not garbage. He’s a darn good coach. I expect us to get better. But just getting better isn’t what I’m looking for at this point. who would you have chosen Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonOfThemBirds 18,408 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 2 minutes ago, PeytonMannings Forehead said: That’s the old school 3-4 with those huge blood and guts defenses. Nobody really runs that as much anymore. Even the hardcore 3-4 guys, they play more with a shade. And their personnel is built more for adaptability and speed. The edge is where we’re going to have to uncover a gem to really get this thing going... but that’s been every year here. Yep, nobody runs a pure 3-4 like that anymore. This could mean Falcons draft a hybrid OLB/DE in one of the early rounds. Wonder who the DL and OLB coaches will be? Do you think they'll bring in a pass rushing specialized coach? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Macintez 1,780 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 17 minutes ago, PeytonMannings Forehead said: Easily better than what we’ve had but that’s a real low bar. Not the way I’d have like to have seen is go, but I’m cautiously optimistic. This is that “hook up” hire I don’t like and the man was retired. We shall see but I’m not a fan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falconsd56 25,726 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 There are some interesting potential FA's to watch if these guys are indeed it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kenn.junior 777 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Just now, celtiksage said: Micah Parsons in the middle with Debo? 😁 wouldnt that be big O Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonOfThemBirds 18,408 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 2 minutes ago, PeytonMannings Forehead said: Not the move I would have made but Pees is not garbage. He’s a darn good coach. I expect us to get better. But just getting better isn’t what I’m looking for at this point. I feel you. We looking for dominance. ratesforless, PeytonMannings Forehead and A Pimp Named Slickback™ 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falconsd56 25,726 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Just now, DonOfThemBirds said: I feel you. We looking for dominance. I would settle for squeaking out 10 wins. PokerSteve 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PeytonMannings Forehead 27,502 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 minute ago, kenn.junior said: who would you have chosen Well in my dream of dreams Jack Del Rio would have been a perfect fit for what we have to work with. But I know that’s not happening. Someone like Jim Schwartz or, most ideally, Jonathan Gannon would have been my pick. Knight of God 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonOfThemBirds 18,408 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Just now, falconsd56 said: I would settle for squeaking out 10 wins. If that leads to a SB Championship, all for it. falconsd56 and DMT11 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flyin' In DC 2,099 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 20 minutes ago, PeytonMannings Forehead said: Easily better than what we’ve had but that’s a real low bar. Not the way I’d have like to have seen is go, but I’m cautiously optimistic. Do you think Pees grooms a successor for a year or 2 and then goes? Like Gannon maybe? celtiksage 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Knight of God 53,247 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 25 minutes ago, PeytonMannings Forehead said: 😐 We'll see what happens right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JayOzOne 19,508 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Cole World, xSICKxWITHxITx, Ergo Proxy and 14 others 12 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonOfThemBirds 18,408 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 minute ago, PeytonMannings Forehead said: Well in my dream of dreams Jack Del Rio would have been a perfect fit for what we have to work with. But I know that’s not happening. Someone like Jim Schwartz or, most ideally, Jonathan Gannon would have been my pick. Heard Jim Schwartz may be retiring for now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
atljbo 21,355 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 PokerSteve, mountain_jim3, xSICKxWITHxITx and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PeytonMannings Forehead 27,502 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 minute ago, Flyin' In DC said: Do you think Pees grooms a successor for a year or 2 and then goes? Like Gannon maybe? That would be the most logical thing. I mean I’m not ageist but dude is 71 and has retired twice. I’d think Smitty-2 would have some young Turk in mind to come on and apprentice. Just now, Knight of God said: We'll see what happens right? That’s all we can do at this point, bro. 😆 I don’t hate Pees (cue the jokes) but he’s not a miracle worker. And just switching to a 3-4 ain’t magic. But you know me and you been trying to get that one across for years. AUTiger7222 and Knight of God 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PeytonMannings Forehead 27,502 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 4 minutes ago, DonOfThemBirds said: Heard Jim Schwartz may be retiring for now. Yeah that is the word... but our new guy was supposed to be retired too. 😆 DonOfThemBirds, PokerSteve and Vandy 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ergo Proxy 25,926 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 19 minutes ago, PeytonMannings Forehead said: So were we. He gets more utility out of his tweener/type players than we have though. Parsons at 4 confirmed? celtiksage and falconsd56 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
celtiksage 1,895 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 8 minutes ago, kenn.junior said: wouldnt that be big O Yeah Foye is stacking on the mass. He could do it to. Debo outside would be a beast. PokerSteve 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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