FentayeJones 23,733 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 minute ago, fuego said: It's kinda stupid for them to have not interviews who Watson suggested and created this problem for themselves. I mean how hard would it have been to interview both those guys? Stupid. Yeah how hard is it to do a two hour zoom meeting? fuego 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Friendly Folk 1,504 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 minute ago, DonOfThemBirds said: Yep, Jefferson Lurie trying his best to rekindle Wentz of their SB run. I think the Wentz of that SB run may have been a one hit wonder. Wentz has been on the decline to extremely bad since. The super bowl run that Foles finished? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonOfThemBirds 19,145 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Just now, fuego said: It's kinda stupid for them to have not interviews who Watson suggested and created this problem for themselves. I mean how hard would it have been to interview both those guys? Stupid. Saw a report on Pro Football Talk website earlier on the week that Eric Bieniemy was interviewed by the Texans on Monday. He may get the Texans HC job after Chiefs finish their postseason run because it's been reported that Deshaun Watson is trying to be patient. fuego 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonOfThemBirds 19,145 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 3 minutes ago, Michael Scott said: The super bowl run that Foles finished? Yep, Wentz was looking all-worldly though before going down. Eagles owner Lurie must think that Reich was the mastermind behind Wentz's success that season. He thinks he's getting a Reich disciple lol. fuego 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Friendly Folk 1,504 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Just now, DonOfThemBirds said: Yep, Wentz was looking all-worldly though before going down. Eagles owner Lurie must think that Reich was the mastermind behind Wentz's success that season. He thinks he's getting a Reich disciple lol. Yeah a bit of a stretch but you never know. Might work in that way, but Wentz to me is damaged goods already. I have doubts he can recapture that lightning. Kind of risky making coaching decisions around a guy that may not even be the best QB on the roster. I mean, Pederson benched him for a reason. If there’s even a hint of doubt about him why go all in? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonOfThemBirds 19,145 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 9 minutes ago, Michael Scott said: Yeah a bit of a stretch but you never know. Might work in that way, but Wentz to me is damaged goods already. I have doubts he can recapture that lightning. Kind of risky making coaching decisions around a guy that may not even be the best QB on the roster. I mean, Pederson benched him for a reason. If there’s even a hint of doubt about him why go all in? Eagles just paid him. Lurie also vows to get Wentz back to that point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joeyg2033 438 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) 2 hours ago, Goober Pyle said: I guess the feeling is that Sirianni through osmosis will turn into Frank Reich... That's a stretch since Reich, and not Sirianni called the offensive plays in Indy... People in Philly were clamoring for Duce Staley who had been a good soldier in the Eagles organization for close to 20 years. Word was that Duce would have practiced tough love on Wentz... not exactly the style Lurie was looking for with his prima donna QB. Edited January 21 by joeyg2033 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thanat0s 5,291 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, Dr Long Shot said: Hottest name coming in and didn't even make it to a second interview with most. Should pretty much answer the question about how much input he really has on the KC offense. Even if it’s just perception and not reality, he would do himself a great favor by asking for his release, and becoming OC for a team where he’s the play caller all the time. Expert Poster and AUTiger7222 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Long Shot 4,067 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, DriveHomeSafelyAtlantaWins said: Maybe that's true about the bust rate. But you could still trade down, shedding the higher pick for multiple lower picks. So clearly, the higher pick is more valuable. Tanking as a whole may be questionable. But busting your *** to win 2 meaningless games at the end of a lost season is dumb. If your players are so dedicated they're going to play hard anyway, that's fine ... start the 3rd string. Players bust their *** for a reason, most are potentially auditioning for their next job or are adding to their resumes, benching them is the type of selfish **** that makes no one want to play for your team and gets you the type of garbage reputation that gets you missing out on premiere coaching candidates and players. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Long Shot 4,067 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) 2 hours ago, TheHeartless said: Yeah I just think the closest you can get to tanking is prearranged moves you make. No player is actively trying to lose and play bad, nor is any coach really, so the idea that coaches and players are all on board to tank for a draft pick has always been silly. Probably across all sports, but teams can manipulate it so that the roster they have is one that is likely to not perform very well. That will ensure a top draft pick which is what I feel happens in some cases. Most importantly of all though, if a team is a bottom 5 team then they just legitimately sucked that season. You earn those losses fair and square, so I think when fans say "tanking" they just hope their team loses as much as possible. And important to highlight that teams picking top five rarely contend anytime soon. It's why the Falcons are in a privileged position this year since they finished with a way worse record than they probably deserved with all those record setting blown games. The point differential is usually that of a 7 win team so perhaps Quinn ball this past year was a blessing in desguise if we can nab another franchise cornerstone and add it to a core that would have been battling for a playoff spot with decent coaching. Edited January 21 by Dr Long Shot Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ATLskinjob 1,026 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 3 hours ago, FentayeJones said: Sounds like someone describing Mike Smith. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ShmevinShmarris 3,107 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 4 hours ago, Mr. Hoopah! said: What was the reasoning for this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marvinthemartian 5,420 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 4 hours ago, Mr. Hoopah! said: Who are those two? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Hoopah! 82,561 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 6 minutes ago, ShmevinShmarris said: What was the reasoning for this? 3 minutes ago, marvinthemartian said: Who are those two? Josh McDaniels got snubbed again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atl Falcon 4,134 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Jeff Lurie meddles way too much Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AUTiger7222 7,696 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 6 hours ago, DonOfThemBirds said: ..... or admitting to a murder during the interviews. His situation is weird. Whatever the case is maybe dumbasses will stop calling the Falcons racist for not hiring him. DonOfThemBirds, Herr Doktor and 1989Fan 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AUTiger7222 7,696 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 5 hours ago, falcons007 said: They won a SB, Reid was stale in Philly. Worked out well for both. 5 hours ago, Brewcrew said: Yeah... I suppose it was a mutual need for a change of scenery, but he is a **** good coach, and doubt anyone they hire now is going to be better. Bill Walsh once said that after about 10 years it's time for a coach to move on which is why he retired from the 49ers when he did. falcons007 and Brewcrew 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AUTiger7222 7,696 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 5 hours ago, FentayeJones said: Sounds like Mike Smith. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 24,516 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 minutes ago, AUTiger7222 said: Sounds like Mike Smith. I will take a coach who can make playoffs 4/5 years in a row with a chance to win SB every year over DQ and many coaches. And that too a franchise which was big loser since ever. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AUTiger7222 7,696 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 5 hours ago, stizz said: Get ready for all the twitter hot takes and ESPN debates about Eric B. I DO have a problem with the info on him leaking when Kim Ng hadn't interviewed well for all those years and no one said anything about it other than MLB wasn't ready for a woman GM. Then she lucks into a job because of her buddy Jeter. At this point I think a team is just hesitant about the outrage once people really look into his college days. He did some wild stuff. Or maybe it has nothing to do with any of that and is strictly football related and teams feel as if he's not responsible for the Chiefs success and wouldn't be capable of bringing success with him. I know it's hard to believe that might be the case but it very well may be true. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 24,516 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 6 minutes ago, AUTiger7222 said: Bill Walsh once said that after about 10 years it's time for a coach to move on which is why he retired from the 49ers when he did. Only exception is Bellicheck, but then he is from different mold. AUTiger7222 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stizz 5,670 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 3 minutes ago, AUTiger7222 said: Or maybe it has nothing to do with any of that and is strictly football related and teams feel as if he's not responsible for the Chiefs success and wouldn't be capable of bringing success with him. I know it's hard to believe that might be the case but it very well may be true. That entire team is vouching for him and saying he's capable. The guy Philly hired didn't call the offense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AUTiger7222 7,696 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 hours ago, falcons007 said: I will take a coach who can make playoffs 4/5 years in a row with a chance to win SB every year over DQ and many coaches. And that too a franchise which was big loser since ever. I wasn't knocking Smitty. I'm just saying the gave the description of a guy who's good enough to get to the playoffs but not good enough to win the whole thing. That was Smitty. I read what was said about this guy and Smitty was who I immediately thought about. Good enough to routinely get there but not good enough to get over the hump and win the whole thing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AUTiger7222 7,696 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 hours ago, stizz said: That entire team is vouching for him and saying he's capable. The guy Philly hired didn't call the offense. Of course they're vouching for him. They like him. They want to see him be given a chance and succeed. All the Falcons players routinely praised Dan Quinn but we saw how that turned out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
papachaz 19,294 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 12 hours ago, NWFALCON said: Eric B must be bombing interviews his team is still playing, so he can't be hired. Not every team will wait like we did for quinn Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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