FentayeJones 23,693 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falcons Fan MVP 3,926 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, Dr Long Shot said: Not saying he'll be a bad coach, but hard to believe this dude was top of anyone's list heading in. Some of our fans liked him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Francis 7,133 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 18 minutes ago, Dr Long Shot said: Hottest name coming in and didn't even make it to a second interview with most. Should pretty much answer the question about how much input he really has on the KC offense. It’s all Andy Reid. Dude is not giving up control on offense Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 24,137 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 minute ago, FentayeJones said: Lol. The clown at ESPN rating Falcons job as least desirable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sidecar Falcon 8,134 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Sirianni is a good choice for them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stizz 5,665 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Get ready for all the twitter hot takes and ESPN debates about Eric B. I DO have a problem with the info on him leaking when Kim Ng hadn't interviewed well for all those years and no one said anything about it other than MLB wasn't ready for a woman GM. Then she lucks into a job because of her buddy Jeter. At this point I think a team is just hesitant about the outrage once people really look into his college days. He did some wild stuff. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheHeartless 542 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, Dr Long Shot said: There's a difference between tanking and rebuilding I think. Perhaps it's just semantics but asking your players and coach to throw a game VS. realizing you can't contend and making long term moves are two different things. Tossing Glennon at QB mid-seasons wasn't really a tanking move it was a well, we tried every QB on the roster and they are all awful so let's see what he can do move IMO. Jags were 1-9 when they made the move. Yeah I just think the closest you can get to tanking is prearranged moves you make. No player is actively trying to lose and play bad, nor is any coach really, so the idea that coaches and players are all on board to tank for a draft pick has always been silly. Probably across all sports, but teams can manipulate it so that the roster they have is one that is likely to not perform very well. That will ensure a top draft pick which is what I feel happens in some cases. Most importantly of all though, if a team is a bottom 5 team then they just legitimately sucked that season. You earn those losses fair and square, so I think when fans say "tanking" they just hope their team loses as much as possible. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fuego 16,302 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, Dr Long Shot said: Feel like Eagles got sloppy thirds this round of hiring. The shenanigans they pulled late in season really cost them. Those advocating for tanking should take note. Big difference tanking a game that could get you into the playoffs and taking when you're going nowhere. Irrelevant. AUTiger7222 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DriveHomeSafelyAtlantaWins 2,034 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 57 minutes ago, Dr Long Shot said: There's really no clear advantage in tanking in the NFL. The bust/success rate of players picked in the top 15 vs top 5 is too marginal to be worth it. It's not the NBA where the advantage is so enormous the league needed to implement a lottery to disincentivize teams from losing on purpose. Maybe that's true about the bust rate. But you could still trade down, shedding the higher pick for multiple lower picks. So clearly, the higher pick is more valuable. Tanking as a whole may be questionable. But busting your *** to win 2 meaningless games at the end of a lost season is dumb. If your players are so dedicated they're going to play hard anyway, that's fine ... start the 3rd string. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconFanSince1969 15,498 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 11 minutes ago, fuego said: Big difference tanking a game that could get you into the playoffs and taking when you're going nowhere. Irrelevant. Not to the players. They're playing for jobs, contract incentives, ect Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fuego 16,302 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 2 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1969 said: Not to the players. They're playing for jobs, contract incentives, ect Yeah, but if your purposely tanking, everybody knows what's going on. They account for that. By that time in the season they already know what everybody is mostly about. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Friendly Folk 1,496 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, falcons007 said: Who? Never heard of the guy. Since Wentz got Pederson fired, did he get this guy hired? What’s his relationship to Wentz? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconFanSince1969 15,498 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 minute ago, fuego said: Yeah, but if your purposely tanking, everybody knows what's going on. They account for that. By that time in the season they already know what everybody is mostly about. They seemed confused about what was going on though. I don't think it was something that was initially planned at all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
red falcon 4,967 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 52 minutes ago, FentayeJones said: Geez but not super smart lol. Why would you even say that? fuego 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonOfThemBirds 18,960 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 2 minutes ago, Michael Scott said: Since Wentz got Pederson fired, did he get this guy hired? What’s his relationship to Wentz? He's Frank Reich's OC with the Colts. Reich was the OC with the Eagles when Wentz was having his MVP like season before going on to become HC of the Colts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Friendly Folk 1,496 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 If tanking is a real problem, I have a sure fire foolproof plan to combat it and make it a non issue. It’s a bit outside the box but it gives every team something to play for all the way through week 17 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fuego 16,302 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 3 minutes ago, DonOfThemBirds said: He's Frank Reich's OC with the Colts. Reich was the OC with the Eagles when Wentz was having his MVP like season. Trying to reconnect to Reich huh? lol. DonOfThemBirds 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Friendly Folk 1,496 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 4 minutes ago, DonOfThemBirds said: He's Frank Reich's OC with the Colts. Reich was the OC with the Eagles when Wentz was having his MVP like season before going on to become HC of the Colts. That’s a huge reach IMO DonOfThemBirds 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Romfal 11,688 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 who? lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FentayeJones 23,693 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Houston had the first opening back in October and they still haven't found a coach. RING OF HONOR, Ergo Proxy and AUTiger7222 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fuego 16,302 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 8 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1969 said: They seemed confused about what was going on though. I don't think it was something that was initially planned at all. Agreed. Tanking a game that could get you into the playoffs is ridiculous like Pederson did. That would have made me mad if I was a player. I think he might have been the only one in on that. I was more referring to a team going nowhere and everybody is basically in agreement. Although I don't think you could get that many professionals agreeing on tanking. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RING OF HONOR 16,819 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Just now, FentayeJones said: Houston had the first opening back in October and they still haven't found a coach. You mean "the most desirable coaching destination "? AUTiger7222 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fuego 16,302 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 3 minutes ago, FentayeJones said: Houston had the first opening back in October and they still haven't found a coach. It's kinda stupid for them to have not interviewed who Watson suggested and created this problem for themselves. I mean how hard would it have been to interview both those guys? Stupid. AUTiger7222 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonOfThemBirds 18,960 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 3 minutes ago, fuego said: Trying to reconnect to Reich huh? lol. Yep, Jefferson Lurie trying his best to rekindle Wentz of their SB run. I think the Wentz of that SB run may have been a one hit wonder. Wentz has been on the decline to extremely bad since. fuego 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Friendly Folk 1,496 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 minute ago, FentayeJones said: Houston had the first opening back in October and they still haven't found a coach. Upon close examination it’s not surprising. Quack ownership, disgruntled franchise QB, most talented players traded away... should I go on? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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