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Feel like Eagles got sloppy thirds this round of hiring. The shenanigans they pulled late in season really cost them. Those advocating for tanking should take note. 

That was out of left field.

Eric B must be bombing interviews 

5 minutes ago, Dr Long Shot said:

Feel like Eagles got sloppy thirds this round of hiring. The shenanigans they pulled late in season really cost them. Those advocating for tanking should take note. 

Not saying he'll be a bad coach, but hard to believe this dude was top of anyone's list heading in.

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13 minutes ago, Dr Long Shot said:

Feel like Eagles got sloppy thirds this round of hiring. The shenanigans they pulled late in season really cost them. Those advocating for tanking should take note. 

Doug tanked poorly and like a moron, there's the difference, if a team is gonna choose to tank they gotta establish the proper moves in the off season/preseason. Take what the Dolphins did last year with the talent they traded away or the Jags tossing Glennon in at QB mid season. 

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Eagles brass must've finally realized that the reason they had success was because of Frank Reich more so than Doug Pederson. On top of that, they know they are almost forced to keep Wentz around for another year or two due to his contract. So, they gotta find a way to make him viable again.

Since they can't get Reich back to coach him, perhaps they figure some of his knowledge & coaching acumen was picked up by his OC over the past 3 years... and so they hired Sirianni.

If all that's the case though, it'll be interesting to see what they do with Hurts.

Just seems like they've created a big mess in that organization that may take quite a while to clean up.

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8 minutes ago, TheHeartless said:

Doug tanked poorly and like a moron, there's the difference, if a team is gonna choose to tank they gotta establish the proper moves in the off season/preseason. Take what the Dolphins did last year with the talent they traded away or the Jags tossing Glennon in at QB mid season. 

There's a difference between tanking and rebuilding I think. Perhaps it's just semantics but asking your players and coach to throw a game VS. realizing you can't contend and making long term moves are two different things.

Tossing Glennon at QB mid-seasons wasn't really a tanking move it was a well, we tried every QB on the roster and they are all awful so let's see what he can do move IMO. Jags were 1-9 when they made the move. 

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8 minutes ago, Dr Long Shot said:

There's a difference between tanking and rebuilding I think. Perhaps it's just semantics but asking your players and coach to throw a game VS. realizing you can't contend and making long term moves are two different things.

Tossing Glennon at QB mid-seasons wasn't really a tanking move it was a well, we tried every QB on the roster and they are all awful so let's see what he can do move IMO. Jags were 1-9 when they made the move. 

Exactly. The example of the 'Fins last year is almost comical. If you look the the progress that team made week to week, they went from a team looking like an obvious tank job in week 1 to a team kicking teams in the throat by the end of the season. They turned the roster over to win, not in a search for draft picks. In my opinion, people that see moving up 10 spots in the draft as a path to a championship could be outthinking themselves. The 'Fins clearly had an overall roster plan, and setting up a roster to lose games was never part of it. Setting up a versatile roster of coachable, non-entitled, players is very different than throwing talent away. The 'Fins have proven that over the last 30 games. 

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47 minutes ago, Dr Long Shot said:

Feel like Eagles got sloppy thirds this round of hiring. The shenanigans they pulled late in season really cost them. Those advocating for tanking should take note. 

Tanking usually costs the HCoaching Job. Ask Jim Caldwell how Colts tanking in 2011 worked out.

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1 minute ago, falcndave said:

Exactly. The example of the 'Fins last year is almost comical. If you look the the progress that team made week to week, they went from a team looking like an obvious tank job in week 1 to a team kicking teams in the throat by the end of the season. They turned the roster over to win, not in a search for draft picks. In my opinion, people that see moving up 10 spots in the draft as a path to a championship could be outthinking themselves. The 'Fins clearly had an overall roster plan, and setting up a roster to lose games was never part of it. Setting up a versatile roster of coachable, non-entitled, players is very different than throwing talent away. The 'Fins have proven that over the last 30 games. 

There's really no clear advantage in tanking in the NFL. The bust/success rate of players picked in the top 15 vs top 5 is too marginal to be worth it. It's not the NBA where the advantage is so enormous the league needed to implement a lottery to disincentivize teams from losing on purpose.

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23 minutes ago, k-train said:

Eagles brass must've finally realized that the reason they had success was because of Frank Reich more so than Doug Pederson. On top of that, they know they are almost forced to keep Wentz around for another year or two due to his contract. So, they gotta find a way to make him viable again.

Since they can't get Reich back to coach him, perhaps they figure some of his knowledge & coaching acumen was picked up by his OC over the past 3 years... and so they hired Sirianni.

If all that's the case though, it'll be interesting to see what they do with Hurts.

Just seems like they've created a big mess in that organization that may take quite a while to clean up.

Smart post!

 

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2 minutes ago, Dr Long Shot said:

There's really no clear advantage in tanking in the NFL. The bust/success rate of players picked in the top 15 vs top 5 is too marginal to be worth it. It's not the NBA where the advantage is so enormous the league needed to implement a lottery to disincentivize teams from losing on purpose.

That’s why this argument of we won’t pick again at 3 to select a player is moot. Top 5 QB picks have been duds from 2008. Teams which are picking at the top of the draft usually pick often there but keep losing.

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