The Smart One 368 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 minute ago, Sidecar Falcon said: It’s possible to get a top RB and an top CB in this draft. I have a scenario where we trade to the 49ers spot. They get our first, we get their first, next year’s first, this year’s 2nd, and next year’s 3rd. We select Patrick Surtain with their pick. We then trade back into the 1st round with the Jets with both this year’s 2nds and one of next years 3rds. We select Najee Harris with their pick. If we were gonna do something like that I’d rather go Slater with the 1st pick and Jaycee Horn with the Jets pick. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sidecar Falcon 8,436 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 2 minutes ago, The Smart One said: If we were gonna do something like that I’d rather go Slater with the 1st pick and Jaycee Horn with the Jets pick. Oline would be nice to have and I’m all for it for a talent like Sewell. However, right now, I’m less worried about it with Smith on board. He orchestrated a 2k rushing season with no Pro Bowl offensive linemen. So anyone other than Sewell, I feel, would be a waste of resources. Unless it’s a QB, but that would be a Smith move I would place my trust in. That being said I feel that both CB and RB are bigger needs. Surtain is strong and physical and can help us defend against the bigger WRs like Godwin/Evans, but also has enough quickness to take on faster WRs. Harris is probably the RB that best suits what I believe Smith wants for his offense. We’ll need to leap frog the Steelers though. These two picks address fundamental issues with the Falcons this season; balance, and pass defense. We should also be able to control the clock more. This will help our defense stay fresher. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
xSICKxWITHxITx 3,582 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 33 minutes ago, kenn.junior said: that would be an even bigger waste cuz we already have hurst and graham. either go QB or trade back and take a CB or if we trade back further down grab harris that should be the only 3 options Yeah I want defense. I like Harris, but I don’t want a RB until 2 or 3 round. Shoot Aaron Jones from GB is what a 5th round pick? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
xSICKxWITHxITx 3,582 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 18 minutes ago, thanat0s said: I'd be more interested in your explaining how a QB sitting on the bench makes this team better in 2021, but by all means waste my time some more... Huh? I don’t want a QB. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconFanSince1969 16,375 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 30 minutes ago, Sidecar Falcon said: It’s possible to get a top RB and an top CB in this draft. I have a scenario where we trade to the 49ers spot. They get our first, we get their first, next year’s first, this year’s 2nd, and next year’s 3rd. We select Patrick Surtain with their pick. We then trade back into the 1st round with the Jets with both this year’s 2nds and one of next years 3rds. We select Najee Harris with their pick. I'd hate a trade up for a rb. I'd rather stay put and take javonte williams. celtiksage 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheTrue7 6,224 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 2 hours ago, dapanch420 said: Based off what most of his stats this season came off garabage time. Only elites are rodgers, wilson, and mahomes. All of which were drafted later than top 5.. but we “need to”.. lol JohnnyFranchise 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
papachaz 19,462 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 52 minutes ago, Williamb said: Thank you, people try to use other agendas to criticize dawg fan opinions of fields. We saw him play, no one in their right mind immediately replaces a qb who took you to nc the year before. If fields would have stayed, he would have replaced fromm in his final year, and 2020 would have been his alone. But we dawg fans never saw anything spectacular from him while he was here. Nothing personal, wish him the best, and if he ends up a falcon I'll cheer him on. exactly, Kirby wasn't going to replace Fromm unless he fell off drastically or someone like Fields beat him out of the position in a blatant and obvious way, which he couldn't and didn't. Then he cried like a little girl about it and hit the portal...I don't mind saying at all I was tickled when he lost the title game, he certainly showed in half the games they played this year (as few as those actually were, LMAO) he isn't all that special, especially on the big stage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sidecar Falcon 8,436 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 minute ago, FalconFanSince1969 said: I'd hate a trade up for a rb. I'd rather stay put and take javonte williams. We essentially wouldn’t be losing any original capital, while still picking up an extra 1st next year. Williamb 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Libid21 209 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Sewell to build the trenches. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconFanSince1969 16,375 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 6 minutes ago, Sidecar Falcon said: We essentially wouldn’t be losing any original capital, while still picking up an extra 1st next year. I get that, but we need so many players that I wouldn't want to use the capital we gained to move back up. If we had a normal cap situation id probably be ok with it but we need lots of cheap players over the next few years. Williamb 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kenn.junior 947 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 23 minutes ago, xSICKxWITHxITx said: Yeah I want defense. I like Harris, but I don’t want a RB until 2 or 3 round. Shoot Aaron Jones from GB is what a 5th round pick? me too but i really want harris and he might not make it to our 2nd round pick so if we trade in the late teens or early 20s and take him I wouldnt mind xSICKxWITHxITx 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
irrelevantfalconsfan 394 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 No matter what, someone on here's gonna complain. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Long Shot 4,266 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 I just want whoever we pick at four to be a future hall of famer. Is that too much to ask 😝 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sidecar Falcon 8,436 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 4 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1969 said: I get that, but we need so many players that I wouldn't want to use the capital we gained to move back up. If we had a normal cap situation id probably be ok with it but we need lots of cheap players over the next few years. That doesn’t track. In the scenario I provided, if we didn’t trade back up, we’d have more draft capital, thus negating the cap situation rebuttal. There would be a negligible difference in money between the scenario I provided and current draft picks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Williamb 1,329 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 46 minutes ago, Sidecar Falcon said: It’s possible to get a top RB and an top CB in this draft. I have a scenario where we trade to the 49ers spot. They get our first, we get their first, next year’s first, this year’s 2nd, and next year’s 3rd. We select Patrick Surtain with their pick. We then trade back into the 1st round with the Jets with both this year’s 2nds and one of next years 3rds. We select Najee Harris with their pick. I agree with trade back and if surtain is your call then okay. I am not going to give up the draft capitol to move up for harris though when i still got etteine, williams, and hubbard out there. JohnnyFranchise 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sidecar Falcon 8,436 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 8 minutes ago, Williamb said: I agree with trade back and if surtain is your call then okay. I am not going to give up the draft capitol to move up for harris though when i still got etteine, williams, and hubbard out there. I think Entienne is the first RB off the board. Most likely at 18 to the Dolphins. They need an RB and he fits what they like to do offensively, while providing a safety net for Tua. I think Hubbard goes 2nd round. JohnnyFranchise 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Williamb 1,329 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Just now, Sidecar Falcon said: I think Entienne is the first RB off the board. Most likely at 18 to the Dolphins. They need an RB and he fits what they like to do offensively, while providing a safety net for Tua. I think Hubbard goes 2nd round. I'm okay with 2nd round. Not going to lose picks to trade back into the 1st for him though. Just move on to plan A bpa at my pick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sidecar Falcon 8,436 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 6 minutes ago, Williamb said: I'm okay with 2nd round. Not going to lose picks to trade back into the 1st for him though. Just move on to plan A bpa at my pick You’re not losing any original capital Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Williamb 1,329 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 4 minutes ago, Sidecar Falcon said: You’re not losing any original capital But you would lose what you gained with the trade back. More picks, more picks, more cowbell, oops! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Smart One 368 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 26 minutes ago, Dr Long Shot said: I just want whoever we pick at four to be a future hall of famer. Is that too much to ask 😝 I mean it’s a big ask but it’s really not too much to ask. That’s where you expect HOFs to be drafted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Williamb 1,329 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 16 minutes ago, Sidecar Falcon said: I think Entienne is the first RB off the board. Most likely at 18 to the Dolphins. They need an RB and he fits what they like to do offensively, while providing a safety net for Tua. I think Hubbard goes 2nd round. Harris will be first rb off the board. Ettiene has some ? Marks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sidecar Falcon 8,436 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Just now, Williamb said: But you would lose what you gained with the trade back. More picks, more picks, more cowbell, oops! The purpose of those extra picks wouldn’t be to select those players but to have the ammo to move up. Not to mention we’d have two additional 1st round picks over the course of 2 years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Long Shot 4,266 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 2 minutes ago, The Smart One said: I mean it’s a big ask but it’s really not too much to ask. That’s where you expect HOFs to be drafted. For sure, I think that's always the ultimate goal when you pick in the top 5. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sidecar Falcon 8,436 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Just now, Williamb said: Harris will be first rb off the board. Ettiene has some ? Marks. Doubtful Harris goes first. Entienne has higher graded marks and has been compared to Kamara a variety of times. He’ll go first. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Williamb 1,329 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 minute ago, Sidecar Falcon said: The purpose of those extra picks wouldn’t be to select those players but to have the ammo to move up. Not to mention we’d have two additional 1st round picks over the course of 2 years. Thats not my purpose. Mine is to have as many picks in that top 100 as possible. 5-7 is great, we need players. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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