Mr. Hoopah! Posted May 23 Author Share Posted May 23 **** yeah forever wars against nuclear powers instead of middle eastern countries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RandomFan Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 2 hours ago, Gritzblitz 2.0 said: It would be a shame if they **** around and run up on the wrong one. You notice that they always seem to pull this stuff in states where people are less likely to be packing. Nah, you notice they aren't rolling through Compton. They wouldn't be rolling out again. Door Gunner, Gritzblitz 2.0, falconsd56 and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostone Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 Die in a fire cancer falconsd56, Door Gunner, Andrews_31 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 17 minutes ago, lostone said: Die in a fire cancer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JayOzOne Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 4 hours ago, Serge said: I'm preaching to empty online churches that money and votes are the only way to change. They're taking votes away, so the only way to force the change necessary to fix most problems is to stop paying people for the privilege of abusing us. Corporations are putting solidarity messages on their websites while putting millions in the pockets of pols they know are destroying the lives of millions. Take away their money and they'll support who and what their customers want them to support. ****, send Walmart into Chapter 11 and just the threat of targeting any other company/corporation will fix 95% of the problems. But America can stomach abuse much easier than she can handle paying a little bit more for a pair shoes by buying them from another store. They laugh at our acquiescence, even as we make them rich. Optimus_Cr1m35 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimus_Cr1m35 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 27 minutes ago, JayOzOne said: I'm preaching to empty online churches that money and votes are the only way to change. They're taking votes away, so the only way to force the change necessary to fix most problems is to stop paying people for the privilege of abusing us. Corporations are putting solidarity messages on their websites while putting millions in the pockets of pols they know are destroying the lives of millions. Take away their money and they'll support who and what their customers want them to support. ****, send Walmart into Chapter 11 and just the threat of targeting any other company/corporation will fix 95% of the problems. But America can stomach abuse much easier than she can handle paying a little bit more for a pair shoes by buying them from another store. They laugh at our acquiescence, even as we make them rich. Yeah, the issue is, the corruption went on for far too long, and too much money has already shifted. Meaning, you can't. I can stop shopping at Walmart. But, that leaves me with Fry's (Kroger) or Safeway (Albertson's), and both have the same track record of supporting ****ty politicians. Same with Nike. I can ditch them, but Adidas/Reebok/etc are all the same. Gotta burn the system down to fix it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 1 hour ago, JayOzOne said: I'm preaching to empty online churches that money and votes are the only way to change. They're taking votes away, so the only way to force the change necessary to fix most problems is to stop paying people for the privilege of abusing us. Corporations are putting solidarity messages on their websites while putting millions in the pockets of pols they know are destroying the lives of millions. Take away their money and they'll support who and what their customers want them to support. ****, send Walmart into Chapter 11 and just the threat of targeting any other company/corporation will fix 95% of the problems. But America can stomach abuse much easier than she can handle paying a little bit more for a pair shoes by buying them from another store. They laugh at our acquiescence, even as we make them rich. The problem with the thing gaining popularity now of tying all Republican racism to their belief in Great Replacement Theory is that that's one of the ones where the Jews are at the center of everything, whereas most Republicans are at least publicly supportive of Israel, and accusing them of adhering to an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory they've never explicitly supported invites them to act as if they'd never heard of that particular conspiracy theory. Then we're expecting corporations to, I guess, disavow Republicans and right-wing media because people who consume a lot of left-wing media think that the Republicans and right-wing media are still ultimately responsible for the Buffalo shooter. The problem with that strategy is practical; it's not going to have the intended effect if the left thinks it has leverage on the corporations and the corporations think that the left is a month away from saying Obama believed in the Great Replacement Theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 I should point out again, I absolutely do not think the Lincoln Project is the left. I think their goal is leading the left in this particular direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Dik Dik Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 Suicide gif NightPain 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayOzOne Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 1 hour ago, Optimus_Cr1m35 said: Yeah, the issue is, the corruption went on for far too long, and too much money has already shifted. Meaning, you can't. I can stop shopping at Walmart. But, that leaves me with Fry's (Kroger) or Safeway (Albertson's), and both have the same track record of supporting ****ty politicians. Same with Nike. I can ditch them, but Adidas/Reebok/etc are all the same. Gotta burn the system down to fix it. Here's the thing: If you can put one corporation in a problematic situation, you can leverage it to actually change its political commitments. Heck, do it right and you can bring a full shift of who it supports. If Walmart (for example) suddenly dried the tap on conservative politicians and their causes, it'd be testament to what a committed group can do. Target Albertson's next and they'll do whatever benefits the stockholders. If Walmart switched and the people who stayed away suddenly return in great numbers (while avoiding Albertson's and Kroger), the other stores would break their necks trying to convince the public they're part of the actual solution. It's simple economics. The problem is one of commitment and energy, neither of which I believe the American public maintains in any amount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AF89 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 NightPain, Andrews_31, falconsd56 and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shc Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 (edited) 8 hours ago, Gritzblitz 2.0 said: It would be a shame if they **** around and run up on the wrong one. You notice that they always seem to pull this stuff in states where people are less likely to be packing. I mean, they could keep on driving down to Compton and see what happens edited to add I just saw @RandomFan’s similar comment from 5 hours ago. Edited May 23 by shc Gritzblitz 2.0 and NightPain 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Door Gunner Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 21 hours ago, JayOzOne said: Not surprised at all.🍻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JayOzOne Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 1 hour ago, Door Gunner said: Not surprised at all.🍻 "Did Jesus say 'Make the little children suffer'?" "Close enough." Door Gunner 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hoopah! Posted May 23 Author Share Posted May 23 @The Monarch we got on I-10 today and there was a yellow road sign that had a silhouette of a bear and below that it said 30 miles. Florida seems less than ideal. falconsd56 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimus_Cr1m35 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 4 hours ago, JayOzOne said: Here's the thing: If you can put one corporation in a problematic situation, you can leverage it to actually change its political commitments. Heck, do it right and you can bring a full shift of who it supports. If Walmart (for example) suddenly dried the tap on conservative politicians and their causes, it'd be testament to what a committed group can do. Target Albertson's next and they'll do whatever benefits the stockholders. If Walmart switched and the people who stayed away suddenly return in great numbers (while avoiding Albertson's and Kroger), the other stores would break their necks trying to convince the public they're part of the actual solution. It's simple economics. The problem is one of commitment and energy, neither of which I believe the American public maintains in any amount. You'd have to have a concerted effort, which doesn't occur. The public won't stay behind anything because for a lot of people, convenience is more important than principles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayOzOne Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 3 minutes ago, Optimus_Cr1m35 said: You'd have to have a concerted effort, which doesn't occur. The public won't stay behind anything because for a lot of people, convenience is more important than principles. You know it. If somebody decided to boycott Nike (for whatever reason), it would take a BOGO half off of new Jordans to get them to break the boycott. They'd get to the stores two days early and the line would stretch around the block. That's why I'm not down for marching or signing online petitions. When y'all* are serious about changing things, give me a holler. In the meantime, do things the same way you always do and act surprised when the same **** happens again next week. Wash. Rinse. Then, repeat. *Not you, actually. Just ranting. Optimus_Cr1m35 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Optimus_Cr1m35 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 1 hour ago, JayOzOne said: You know it. If somebody decided to boycott Nike (for whatever reason), it would take a BOGO half off of new Jordans to get them to break the boycott. They'd get to the stores two days early and the line would stretch around the block. That's why I'm not down for marching or signing online petitions. When y'all* are serious about changing things, give me a holler. In the meantime, do things the same way you always do and act surprised when the same **** happens again next week. Wash. Rinse. Then, repeat. *Not you, actually. Just ranting. It's why I'm finding myself more and more indifferent to politics. What difference does it all make? Ultimately, people in large groups are stupid. And because of that, they do stupid things. So while someone that cares can do a bunch to try to help, ultimately, it can be undone by a handful of people doing something moronic. For example, I've been one to put my money where my mouth is. I installed solar on 2 houses, didn't save me money, just because I thought it would help with climate change. But, all it takes is a few turds buying giant *** trucks to offset what I did. I donated to a bunch of decent politicians, and all it takes is 10 people donating 1/10th of what I did to offset that. Being concerned is exhausting. Being involved is exhausting. And ultimately, it hasn't mattered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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