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1 hour ago, Sponge said:

My friend Jimmy is full blooded native American (carries a tribal ID card) and he said that progressives are wiping away any existence of his people in their cancelling fad. If you think about it, he's right. If they remove everything that refers back to Native Americans, they remove recognition of them as a whole. 

Can't wait for progressives to say that Native American casinos need to be taxed at 70% since they don't get taxed at all. It's coming. 

 

1 hour ago, Gritzblitz 2.0 said:

There is a strong amount of White Savior Syndrome and Fake Activism amongst liberals. They like causes such as sports team names because it's high profile and very superficial. As if not calling a team 'Redskins' or 'Indians' anymore is going to do a thing for those natives living in hopeless poverty on the Pine Ridge Reservation.

 

 

The issue may not be #1 for native americans, but I also think it's false to say the movement is entirely the product of white folk with PC activism, as if no native americans have been a part of that movement, as if it doesn't matter to any of them. And finding one card-carrying person on one side of an issue doesn't mean the other side has none.

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13 minutes ago, achilles return said:

fwiw I’m not trying to trick you into anything, I’m just curious.

you bring up my car a lot and i’ve never really understood why you think there’s some conflict between my stated political beliefs and being a gearhead.

I can tell you're not being condescending and just trying to get a straight answer (for a question that has multiple variables). 

If horses could talk, you would be cancelled for driving a "mustang". You can come sit a the cool honda kids table with me, gritz, and mdrake when your ready to trade your teenage girl mobile. You don't realize the awesomeness of getting 350 HP from a 4 cylinder engine.

FTR, through the years of us arguing/name calling, I've never once reported you or put you on ignore. And I have a lot of people on ignore. I hope that says something.

 

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1 minute ago, The Monarch said:

 

 

The issue may not be #1 for native americans, but I also think it's false to say the movement is entirely the product of white folk with PC activism, as if no native americans have been a part of that movement, as if it doesn't matter to any of them. And finding one card-carrying person on one side of an issue doesn't mean the other side has none.

I'm not saying that at all. My point is that the only native issue that seems to get any attention is sports team names. I'm fine with getting rid of Redskins and other offensive names, but lets not kid ourselves into thinking that it has much of an effect on the life of the average native.

My bet is the average native languishing in poverty and rampant substance abuse on reservations don't really give a **** what a football team calls itself.

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i have nothing but appreciation for modern mechanical engineering and the insane balance between efficiency and performance they can pull from four cylinders and a couple of turbos, but i recognize that the v8/manual/rear-wheel drive package is probably not long for this world and i have to hold onto it for as long as humanly possible. 

my kids or grandkids may not ever drive a car with an internal combustion engine. that’s both a good thing for humanity and also a great personal tragedy as someone that genuinely loves cars.

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4 minutes ago, Sponge said:

I can tell you're not being condescending and just trying to get a straight answer (for a question that has multiple variables). 

If horses could talk, you would be cancelled for driving a "mustang". You can come sit a the cool honda kids table with me, gritz, and mdrake when your ready to trade your teenage girl mobile. You don't realize the awesomeness of getting 350 HP from a 4 cylinder engine.

FTR, through the years of us arguing/name calling, I've never once reported you or put you on ignore. And I have a lot of people on ignore. I hope that says something.

 

I'm in the Honda and Toyota club.  My wife doesn't like Ridgelines, despite the fact it's the same thing as our Pilot, but if I could get a truck right now I would want the 2021 that's been redesigned to look more "truck-like" (used several years from now, I'm not buying no **** new vehicle to depreciate when I drive it off the lot). I don't need a full-sized half ton truck, but the other mid-sizes (Tacoma, Ranger, Frontier) are tiny on the inside.

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8 minutes ago, Gritzblitz 2.0 said:

I'm not saying that at all. My point is that the only native issue that seems to get any attention is sports team names. I'm fine with getting rid of Redskins and other offensive names, but lets not kid ourselves into thinking that it has much of an effect on the life of the average native.

My bet is the average native languishing in poverty and rampant substance abuse on reservations don't really give a **** what a football team calls itself.

 

This is true, but also true of how mainstream media covers the genuine economic issues facing americans everywhere (though native issues get far less attention). Sadly, those of us who seemingly care about the fates of people beyond surface level issues get painted as the problem more often than not, or naive, or whatever.

That said, it doesn't make the use of offensive/patronizing terms an issue we should ignore, just as we shouldn't ignore the mainstream racial/gender/sex issues that liberals and dems do focus on from time to time. Like, they all need to get fixed, and giving up on the less impactful ones won't mean that mainstream news/politicians will start caring about the underlying economic ones. In fact, the attention on the more surface-level issues sometimes provides an opportunity for leaders in communities to bring the other issues to public light.

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8 minutes ago, achilles return said:

is being directly affected a requirement for sincerity? and in what way do you think the hustlers’ agenda differs from the true believers?

 I get what you're saying; If you haven't been affected directly then you have no reason to be sincere for the cause. That wasn't meant as broad statement but me quickly coming up with an example of why some would care.

Time has shown that races hustlers are the ones that benefit finically from their schtick while the people they "represent" stay stagnant. Al Sharpton for instance (who owes the IRS). 

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7 minutes ago, achilles return said:

i have nothing but appreciation for modern mechanical engineering and the insane balance between efficiency and performance they can pull from four cylinders and a couple of turbos, but i recognize that the v8/manual/rear-wheel drive package is probably not long for this world and i have to hold onto it for as long as humanely possible. 

my kids or grandkids may not ever drive a car with an internal combustion engine. that’s both a good thing for humanity and also a great personal tragedy as someone that genuinely loves cars.

RIP manual transmissions 😥 There's nothing like dumping the clutch on a peelout.

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13 minutes ago, achilles return said:

i have nothing but appreciation for modern mechanical engineering and the insane balance between efficiency and performance they can pull from four cylinders and a couple of turbos, but i recognize that the v8/manual/rear-wheel drive package is probably not long for this world and i have to hold onto it for as long as humanely possible. 

my kids or grandkids may not ever drive a car with an internal combustion engine. that’s both a good thing for humanity and also a great personal tragedy as someone that genuinely loves cars.

With GM announcing it will only be producing electric vehicles beginning in 2035, I've been thinking that when I do get my next vehicle, it will possibly be the gas engine vehicle I'm able to buy, though they'll stay around used as long as people are able to keep them running like pre-embargo lifted Cuba.

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9 minutes ago, The Monarch said:

lol "race hustlers"

 

now we're getting to issues that matter!

Not saying it's a world ending issue but a factor. 

Only reason I saw your post is because the board has a glitch to where if you post at the same time as someone you have on ignore, it shows theirs too. 

Again you keep quoting me to say something condensing. I'm gonna ask you to put me on ignore also so I don't see other's quoting you, taking jabs at me. If I have to get a mod involved, I will. But that's not my style. 

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3 minutes ago, Sponge said:

Not saying it's a world ending issue but a factor. 

Only reason I saw your post is because the board has a glitch to where if you post at the same time as someone you have on ignore, it shows theirs too. 

Again you keep quoting me to say something condensing. I'm gonna ask you to put me on ignore also so I don't see other's quoting you, taking jabs at me. If I have to get a mod involved, I will. But that's not my style. 

 

I mean, no, i'm not going to put you on ignore. I think this is a silly feud entirely, considering we've mostly been ok with each other in the past and you put me on ignore for something fairly trivial. But that's your decision, so fine. Feel free to get a mod involved if you want, I think they'll find I've never said anything to you that violates the coc. 

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18 minutes ago, achilles return said:

i have nothing but appreciation for modern mechanical engineering and the insane balance between efficiency and performance they can pull from four cylinders and a couple of turbos, but i recognize that the v8/manual/rear-wheel drive package is probably not long for this world and i have to hold onto it for as long as humanely possible. 

my kids or grandkids may not ever drive a car with an internal combustion engine. that’s both a good thing for humanity and also a great personal tragedy as someone that genuinely loves cars.

I wrestle with this all the time.

I truly love the integration with the car I feel during spirited driving in a manual transmission equipped car.  I seriously want to purchase a SECOND Jetta tdi wagon with a stick to make sure I have one when our current 50k mileage eventually packs it in.

And my Boxster . . . I just want to drive it forever.

And I want to buy an old Miata again because . . . why not?  The Boxster take fun much more seriously than my old Miata.

 

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14 minutes ago, Sponge said:

 I get what you're saying; If you haven't been affected directly then you have no reason to be sincere for the cause.

This is absurd. totally ridiculous. Caring for other people is a reason to be sincere.

Your cynicism is off the charts.

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5 minutes ago, Optimus_Cr1m35 said:

Mines a 6 speed, but there's no peeling out. All tires grab...

It is rare to have the opportunity to throttle steer the Boxster on public roads, but I like knowing that it is possible.  And much more attainable than with all wheel drive.  Plus, I would rather save the weight.

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19 minutes ago, Mr. Hoopah! said:

I'm in the Honda and Toyota club.  My wife doesn't like Ridgelines, despite the fact it's the same thing as our Pilot, but if I could get a truck right now I would want the 2021 that's been redesigned to look more "truck-like" (used several years from now, I'm not buying no **** new vehicle to depreciate when I drive it off the lot). I don't need a full-sized half ton truck, but the other mid-sizes (Tacoma, Ranger, Frontier) are tiny on the inside.

2021-Honda-Ridgeline-Sport-02.jpg

I've always like the slope behind the rear cab of older Ridgelines

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