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12 minutes ago, Sponge said:

I'm out of the loop again but what's critical race theory?

So there's two answers to this.  There's what it actually is, a theory of post-graduate study that began in the legal field and has spread to other areas beginning in the 1970's, and the boogie man wedge issue that the current republican party has made it into a catch-all phrase to encompass.

As to the former, here's a definition from an article on the American Bar Association's website:

"While recognizing the evolving and malleable nature of CRT, scholar Khiara Bridges outlines a few key tenets of CRT, including:

  • Recognition that race is not biologically real but is socially constructed and socially significant. It recognizes that science (as demonstrated in the Human Genome Project) refutes the idea of biological racial differences. According to scholars Richard Delgado and Jean Stefancic, race is the product of social thought and is not connected to biological reality.
  • Acknowledgement that racism is a normal feature of society and is embedded within systems and institutions, like the legal system, that replicate racial inequality. This dismisses the idea that racist incidents are aberrations but instead are manifestations of structural and systemic racism.
  • Rejection of popular understandings about racism, such as arguments that confine racism to a few “bad apples.” CRT recognizes that racism is codified in law, embedded in structures, and woven into public policy. CRT rejects claims of meritocracy or “colorblindness.” CRT recognizes that it is the systemic nature of racism that bears primary responsibility for reproducing racial inequality.
  • Recognition of the relevance of people’s everyday lives to scholarship. This includes embracing the lived experiences of people of color, including those preserved through storytelling, and rejecting deficit-informed research that excludes the epistemologies of people of color."

https://www.americanbar.org/groups/crsj/publications/human_rights_magazine_home/civil-rights-reimagining-policing/a-lesson-on-critical-race-theory/

 

As to the latter, Republicans have decried any attempt to talk about racism, especially the history of slavery, Jim Crow laws, the Civil Rights movement, being taught in K-12 as being part of Critical Race Theory.  It's a completely dishonest effort, actually CRT is really only taught in law schools or other post-undergrad settings.  It's not being taught to little Billy's 4th grade class in Stillwater, Oklahoma.

Whether you agree with the theory or not (I admittedly had not heard of it until this year, if it was taught in my law school I didn't take that class, I tried to take as many classes on subjects that I knew would be on the bar exams as possible, I shied from the purely academic classes), it's being used in near total bad faith by the modern day conservative movement. 

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28 minutes ago, Sponge said:

I'm out of the loop again but what's critical race theory?

In a nutshell, something the GOP is telling their followers, that CRT is something that black people are trying to force on them, but it's always a white person explaining what it is or isn't.  That's all you need to know about it. 

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15 minutes ago, Mr. Hoopah! said:

So there's two answers to this.  There's what it actually is, a theory of post-graduate study that began in the legal field and has spread to other areas beginning in the 1970's, and the boogie man wedge issue that the current republican party has made it into a catch-all phrase to encompass.

As to the former, here's a definition from an article on the American Bar Association's website:

"While recognizing the evolving and malleable nature of CRT, scholar Khiara Bridges outlines a few key tenets of CRT, including:

  • Recognition that race is not biologically real but is socially constructed and socially significant. It recognizes that science (as demonstrated in the Human Genome Project) refutes the idea of biological racial differences. According to scholars Richard Delgado and Jean Stefancic, race is the product of social thought and is not connected to biological reality.
  • Acknowledgement that racism is a normal feature of society and is embedded within systems and institutions, like the legal system, that replicate racial inequality. This dismisses the idea that racist incidents are aberrations but instead are manifestations of structural and systemic racism.
  • Rejection of popular understandings about racism, such as arguments that confine racism to a few “bad apples.” CRT recognizes that racism is codified in law, embedded in structures, and woven into public policy. CRT rejects claims of meritocracy or “colorblindness.” CRT recognizes that it is the systemic nature of racism that bears primary responsibility for reproducing racial inequality.
  • Recognition of the relevance of people’s everyday lives to scholarship. This includes embracing the lived experiences of people of color, including those preserved through storytelling, and rejecting deficit-informed research that excludes the epistemologies of people of color."

https://www.americanbar.org/groups/crsj/publications/human_rights_magazine_home/civil-rights-reimagining-policing/a-lesson-on-critical-race-theory/

 

As to the latter, Republicans have decried any attempt to talk about racism, especially the history of slavery, Jim Crow laws, the Civil Rights movement, being taught in K-12 as being part of Critical Race Theory.  It's a completely dishonest effort, actually CRT is really only taught in law schools or other post-undergrad settings.  It's not being taught to little Billy's 4th grade class in Stillwater, Oklahoma.

Whether you agree with the theory or not (I admittedly had not heard of it until this year, if it was taught in my law school I didn't take that class, I tried to take as many classes on subjects that I knew would be on the bar exams as possible, I shied from the purely academic classes), it's being used in near total bad faith by the modern day conservative movement. 

 

6 minutes ago, Andrews_31 said:

In a nutshell, something the GOP is telling their followers, that CRT is something that black people are trying to force on them, but it's always a white person explaining what it is or isn't.  That's all you need to know about it. 

While not intended at me, that was a third-degree burn by @Andrews_31

Feel like this guy now:

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9 hours ago, lostone said:

They have to cover their GME shorts.

edit: also ChIna 

I want a 3070 or 3080 and I need this price to crash for it.  Crypto is keeping me from greatness!

I’m just mad that I bought 20 AMC shares when it was like $7 and Robinhood sold them off at like $10 with zero notification given. Sold my Dogecoin about the same time at .06 (got it at .01) because I thought the hype had run its course and I said **** Robinhood. Could have bought back in elsewhere but didn’t. Missed out on two huge gainers.

You don’t need a crypto crash for GPU prices to come down tho, that’s really a small part of the pricing issue and Bitcoin will be the only one of note still using proof of work (mining) for verification later this year. Ethereum (the #2 crypto) is moving to proof of stake, which is a totally different method of verification from mining that doesn’t require any GPU. Crypto is moving away from mining in a big way, basically every crypto except for Bitcoin is on proof of stake already or is moving to it. Bitcoin will keep mining until it is forced to change by the market because BTC miners have huge influence in protocol changes, but the market is trending that way.

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45 minutes ago, Mr. Hoopah! said:

 

While not intended at me, that was a third-degree burn

 

 

33 minutes ago, Gritzblitz 2.0 said:

If you're eating at Subway, it's time to reevaluate your life.

 

If it makes any difference, I never order Tuna there (but I do rarely at Jimmy Johns)

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22 minutes ago, Carter said:

I’m just mad that I bought 20 AMC shares when it was like $7 and Robinhood sold them off at like $10 with zero notification given. Sold my Dogecoin about the same time at .06 (got it at .01) because I thought the hype had run its course and I said **** Robinhood. Could have bought back in elsewhere but didn’t. Missed out on two huge gainers.

You don’t need a crypto crash for GPU prices to come down tho, that’s really a small part of the pricing issue and Bitcoin will be the only one of note still using proof of work (mining) for verification later this year. Ethereum (the #2 crypto) is moving to proof of stake, which is a totally different method of verification from mining that doesn’t require any GPU. Crypto is moving away from mining in a big way, basically every crypto except for Bitcoin is on proof of stake already or is moving to it. Bitcoin will keep mining until it is forced to change by the market because BTC miners have huge influence in protocol changes, but the market is trending that way.

My friend you are awesome and I hope only the good things in life happen to you and your family!

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When I hear engineers who solve problems multitudes of ways say nothing good comes from socialism... I just laugh.  
 

so we just solve all problems with a hammer and not a tool to fit the problem?  Capitalism will never fix healthcare.  People talk about long lines for care and forget that they are currently relying on people not getting checked up for their access.  It’s selfishness run amuck.

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2 hours ago, Mr. Hoopah! said:

 

While not intended at me, that was a third-degree burn by @Andrews_31

Feel like this guy now:

e783c6c98b1ff20be11dea7b6554cf26f71a3ccb

As you stated, that was not aimed at you, but who is pushing CRT?  All the black people I know are worried about their votes being nullified, not CRT.  CRT is being used as a weapon by the GOP and a shield by the dems for 2022.  The dems (well, some of them) will not fight for voting rights because they don't believe in it either.  I must admit, I DO admire the GOP because they believe in their ******** enough to lie, cheat  steal, and **** people over to stay in power!  They realize that the easiest way to rile up their base is to blame **** on black people that we're not pushing! 

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On one hand I hate that goofball grifter Steven Crowder is trending again. On the other hand I hate that goofball grifter Steven Crowder is trending again.

There’s really nothing positive about it. His followers just think he was wrongly ambushed and that’s it. Never mind that ambushing people and blatantly trying to publicly embarrass them is Crowder’s entire brand.

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Mike Lindell’s latest stupidity should end well…

“Then we’re bringing all the media. Maybe even Fox will show up! What a concept. And then we’re going to bring in all senators, governors—even the corrupt ones, Brian Kemp—and legislatures, secretary of states, and every single government official that wants to be there, because when we show them these packet captures, we’re gonna just give them out to all them cyber guys so they can have their own guy go, ‘How many votes were flipped here in Tampa?’ Here you go. Boom. It’s going to be a worldwide event. Millions are going to see it, and those Supreme Court justices are going to look at it then, and they’re going to go 9-0 that this country was attacked. The election is gonna come down. Donald Trump will be in office by this fall, for sure.”

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24 minutes ago, Andrews_31 said:

As you stated, that was not aimed at you, but who is pushing CRT?  All the black people I know are worried about their votes being nullified, not CRT.  CRT is being used as a weapon by the GOP and a shield by the dems for 2022.  The dems (well, some of them) will not fight for voting rights because they don't believe in it either.  I must admit, I DO admire the GOP because they believe in their ******** enough to lie, cheat  steal, and **** people over to stay in power!  They realize that the easiest way to rile up their base is to blame **** on black people that we're not pushing! 

Remember when the GOP was pushing state laws to ban Sharia law as though that was actually a thing in this country?  

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