Optimus_Cr1m35 4,796 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 5 minutes ago, The Great American said: I'm confused as to why anyone would say abortions are anti-scriptural. The Blble has a lot to say about the sanctity of human life. Also says you shouldn't eat shrimp. Do you eat shrimp? Or lobster? Or oysters? Or calamari? Crab? RandomFan, MoeBiden and Door Gunner 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
achilles return 13,716 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 oh my god please stop no one cares and no one is changing their mind. so you think abortion is murder cool no one cares Door Gunner and Optimus_Cr1m35 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
achilles return 13,716 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 we're all murder fetishists and you lot want to enslave women again glad we can all agree this was a joyful and fruitful conversation Statick and Door Gunner 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
achilles return 13,716 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 what i want to know is where's my student loan forgiveness at Mr. Hoopah!, Optimus_Cr1m35 and Door Gunner 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lostone 18,071 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 @achilles return hey... curious how you would want to deal with people who are awful at their job and dragging a team down. They have been bad with continued guidance. Imagine all they did was excel all day and they couldn’t do a pivot table or create formulas after a year Quote Link to post Share on other sites
eatcorn 4,953 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 8 minutes ago, achilles return said: i have a lot to say about the sanctity of eating *** Yeah, I don't really get the point of arguing religious morality when that's not how we make laws. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDaveG 42,629 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 minute ago, eatcorn said: Yeah, I don't really get the point of arguing religious morality when that's not how we make laws. Well, for my part anyway, it started when a dude said the Bible says we aren’t alive until we breathe. I don’t argue against abortion laws based on religious morality. But I will argue that the Bible doesn’t say what that dude said it says. The Great American and eatcorn 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
achilles return 13,716 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Just now, lostone said: @achilles return hey... curious how you would want to deal with people who are awful at their job and dragging a team down. They have been bad with continued guidance. Imagine all they did was excel all day and they couldn’t do a pivot table or create formulas after a year i'm physically incapable of siding with management on anything regardless of the merits, this is not a good question for me. MoeBiden 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Great American 4,514 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 14 minutes ago, Optimus_Cr1m35 said: Also says you shouldn't eat shrimp. Do you eat shrimp? Or lobster? Or oysters? Or calamari? Crab? I not Jewish. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Optimus_Cr1m35 4,796 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 5 minutes ago, lostone said: @achilles return hey... curious how you would want to deal with people who are awful at their job and dragging a team down. They have been bad with continued guidance. Imagine all they did was excel all day and they couldn’t do a pivot table or create formulas after a year Depends on the structure of the group. I just had an issue with a group for one of my clients that I consult. We got a lot of pushback anytime something was rolled, got a lot of requests for things that were either bad business or borderline criminal, and just generally had horrible interactions. Ultimately, we determined that the problem really stemmed from one person, everyone else was sorta following the example they had. I recommended they cut her. They did. Group works a lot better now. SLAs are better, quality is better, etc. Just functioning "better". She was the cancer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
achilles return 13,716 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 my only advice is that you make absolutely sure it's an actual problem and not merely management looking for the current "weakest link" to justify itself. MoeBiden 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Optimus_Cr1m35 4,796 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 minute ago, The Great American said: I not Jewish. Being jewish has nothing to do with it. Do you eat shrimp? Or lobster? Or oysters? Or calamari? Crab? Yes/no question buddy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Great American 4,514 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Just now, Optimus_Cr1m35 said: Being jewish has nothing to do with it. Do you eat shrimp? Or lobster? Or oysters? Or calamari? Crab? Yes/no question buddy. It has everything to do with it if you understand the old and new covenant. Try reading the Book of Hebrews some time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Monarch 11,331 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 4 hours ago, RandomFan said: Yep, a Dem must be in the White House: Faux News suddenly cares about covid. Guess we can't quote from the closed thread so I'll just post again: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Optimus_Cr1m35 4,796 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Just now, The Great American said: It has everything to do with it if you understand the old and new covenant. Try reading the Book of Hebrews some time. I understand it. You don't have to explain a thing to me. Look, the point is, you're going to quote the bible when it fits your argument, and you're going to say something about "interpretation" or "Old vs new" when it doesn't. I can point to an unlimited number of things in the bible that are complete and udder nonsense, and for each one, you're going to imply that each is open to interpretation. Which is why your religion shouldn't have any bearing on laws or the rights of anyone else. Period. The Branch, Door Gunner and RandomFan 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
eatcorn 4,953 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 I always find it odd how people with such varying beliefs about something so subjective always tell you, essentially, 'if you just believe the things I believe, then you'll agree with me', as though that premise doesn't apply to every person on Earth. RandomFan and The Branch 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Optimus_Cr1m35 4,796 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Just now, eatcorn said: I always find it odd how people with such varying beliefs about something so subjective always tell you, essentially, 'if you just believe the things I believe, then you'll agree with me', as though that premise doesn't apply to every person on Earth. Add in that even among those that agree on certain things will have disagreements within their own faction of believers. Door Gunner 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
achilles return 13,716 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Just now, Optimus_Cr1m35 said: Being jewish has nothing to do with it. Do you eat shrimp? Or lobster? Or oysters? Or calamari? Crab? Yes/no question buddy. i think this line of questioning is pointless because it doesn't matter whether or not he personally follows the tenets of the religion that you've created for him. i find playing rules gotcha with someone else's religion is worthless because the idea of "correct set of rules around a particular faith" is a premise i don't even agree to. it's all arbitrary. who cares? eatcorn 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Great American 4,514 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 3 minutes ago, Optimus_Cr1m35 said: I understand it. You don't have to explain a thing to me. Look, the point is, you're going to quote the bible when it fits your argument, and you're going to say something about "interpretation" or "Old vs new" when it doesn't. I can point to an unlimited number of things in the bible that are complete and udder nonsense, and for each one, you're going to imply that each is open to interpretation. Which is why your religion shouldn't have any bearing on laws or the rights of anyone else. Period. My religion does not have any bearings on civil law. But I will be accountable before God one day if I obeyed His law. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Great American 4,514 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 11 minutes ago, eatcorn said: I always find it odd how people with such varying beliefs about something so subjective always tell you, essentially, 'if you just believe the things I believe, then you'll agree with me', as though that premise doesn't apply to every person on Earth. Ah, the old question if truth is objective or subjective. That one has been around for a while!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Optimus_Cr1m35 4,796 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Just now, achilles return said: i think this line of questioning is pointless because it doesn't matter whether or not he personally follows the tenets of the religion that you've created for him. i find playing rules gotcha with someone else's religion is worthless because the idea of "correct set of rules around a particular faith" is a premise i don't even agree to. it's all arbitrary. who cares? Well, yes and no. If he's partaking in his own religion, then by all means, he can make up whatever rules he wants to. Religion is really up to the believer. ****, I can create a religion around WAP, and no one can tell me what the rules are. So to that, I agree with you. BUT... If you're going to use your religion to dictate how I and others are supposed to live, you better be following the rules of said religion. We aren't talking about something up to interpretation here. The text was clear... If it doesn't have fins or scales, don't eat it. Period. Fin. So, if you're using your religion based on your book, to tell me and others what I can and cannot do, then i'll kindly ask that you follow the same rules and regs set forth by your book. If you can't follow all of them as a believer in said religion, then don't expect me to follow any of them as a non-believer. The Branch, RandomFan and Door Gunner 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDaveG 42,629 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 11 minutes ago, The Great American said: It has everything to do with it if you understand the old and new covenant. Try reading the Book of Hebrews some time. Wow, I missed this one. Some of you need to come up with better arguments. I'm trying to imagine any well informed, devout Christian being confronted with someone saying "but do you eat shrimp?" and having the foundations of their faith shaken. Like their response is going to be "oh, no! I never thought of that! Nothing makes sense anymore!" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Optimus_Cr1m35 4,796 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 3 minutes ago, The Great American said: My religion does not have any bearings on civil law. But I will be accountable before God one day if I obeyed His law. Civil law is pretty clear. Abortion is ok. That's been upheld. So when will you stop fight against the law? Are you unlawful? Do you ignore other laws? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Optimus_Cr1m35 4,796 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Just now, JDaveG said: Wow, I missed this one. Some of you need to come up with better arguments. I'm trying to imagine any well informed, devout Christian being confronted with someone saying "but do you eat shrimp?" and having the foundations of their faith shaken. Like their response is going to be "oh, no! I never thought of that! Nothing makes sense anymore!" Don't you have a gun club to bail out? Door Gunner 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sun Tzu 7 13,926 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 JDaveG, Mr. Hoopah!, RandomFan and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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