falcons007 24,137 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 3 minutes ago, Vandy said: We’ve already got one. How many teams have two franchise QB? Vandy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Herr Doktor 8,174 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 2 hours ago, falcons007 said: How many teams have two franchise QB? Been a long time. Montana and Young? I'm old. falcons007 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 24,137 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 22 minutes ago, Herr Doktor said: Been a long time. Montana and Young? I'm old. True. But Young was traded with back up value, not a first round draft pick. Vandy and Herr Doktor 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tim Mazetti 12,116 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 9 hours ago, Vandy said: We’ve already got one. Yep. For how long? It is difficult to find The Franchise. Vandy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vandy 39,736 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, Tim Mazetti said: Yep. For how long? It is difficult to find The Franchise. I hear you Timmy. But there’s several positions on this team in obvious need of fixing, frankly QB should be at or near the bottom of positions that truly need to be addressed. I say address QB in a couple years when the end for Ryan is much clearer. falcons007 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tim Mazetti 12,116 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 On 1/21/2021 at 5:56 PM, Vandy said: I say address QB in a couple years when the end for Ryan is much clearer. How to get the Franchise if the team is 8-8 or 7-9? This is my point. They would have to send multiple draft choices via the draft or a trade. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 24,137 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 16 minutes ago, Tim Mazetti said: How to get the Franchise if the team is 8-8 or 7-9? This is my point. They would have to send multiple draft choices via the draft or a trade. How many top 5 QB have succeeded? The true franchise QB in a decade is Russell Wilson, a third round pick. Mahomes was 10, Watson at 12. Lamar Jackson at 32. Dak Prescot in mid rounds. Top 5, you got marriota, Blake Bortles, Winston, Trubisky, Sam Darnold. Only Guy in top 5 with marginal success is Goff. Wentz outside of the 11 games in 2017 is looking like a bust. This narrative of you need top 5 pick is funny. Vandy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tim Mazetti 12,116 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 3 minutes ago, falcons007 said: How many top 5 QB have succeeded? The true franchise QB in a decade is Russell Wilson, a third round pick. Mahomes was 10, Watson at 12. Lamar Jackson at 32. Dak Prescot in mid rounds. Top 5, you got marriota, Blake Bortles, Winston, Trubisky, Sam Darnold. Only Guy in top 5 with marginal success is Goff. Wentz outside of the 11 games in 2017 is looking like a bust. This narrative of you need top 5 pick is funny. The depth of the draft class matters though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CTann 2,822 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 On 1/20/2021 at 9:24 PM, mattyicefalcon said: Fowler, Davidson Ricardo And possibly Julio (trade bait) are gone How is Fowler gone? His 2021 cap hit is $18.5M while his dead cap is $15.3M. We’d only be saving around $3M by releasing him. I don’t see anyone trading for him either. We’re locked into him for 1 more year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 24,137 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 hour ago, Tim Mazetti said: The depth of the draft class matters though. That’s been said every year. Every year outside of 2013, the QB got hyped up as best picks for franchise QB. Heck Mariotta and Winston were Hiesman winners. The 2016 was supposedly a deep draft at QB. There is run for QB almost every year. Tim Mazetti 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vandy 39,736 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 14 minutes ago, Tim Mazetti said: How to get the Franchise if the team is 8-8 or 7-9? This is my point. They would have to send multiple draft choices via the draft or a trade. I just think it’s too soon to worry about the how. Franchise QBs are not a guarantee at top of draft, there’s a graveyard full of them (Wentz/Darnold/Trubisky/Winston/Mariota/Bortles are all recent examples)....plus plenty of HOF caliber QBs came later in draft (besides Brady and Montana, see Brees, Wilson, Lamar Jackson), Matt Schaub was a 3rd rounder, Derek Carr and Kirk cousins are better than most QBs taken before them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vandy 39,736 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 12 minutes ago, falcons007 said: How many top 5 QB have succeeded? The true franchise QB in a decade is Russell Wilson, a third round pick. Mahomes was 10, Watson at 12. Lamar Jackson at 32. Dak Prescot in mid rounds. Top 5, you got marriota, Blake Bortles, Winston, Trubisky, Sam Darnold. Only Guy in top 5 with marginal success is Goff. Wentz outside of the 11 games in 2017 is looking like a bust. This narrative of you need top 5 pick is funny. LOL 007, you literally took the words right out of my mouth! But you can’t kiss me! falcons007 and Tim Mazetti 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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