Sidecar Falcon 8,436 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 4 minutes ago, Atlantafan21 said: His defenses weren’t amazing by any means but they were always solid/good for the most part. It’s not a coincidence that after he retired the entire Titans defense and all their players turned to crap. 2 minutes ago, DonOfThemBirds said: Pees had top defenses with the Pats. Was pretty good with the Ravens for the most part along with a SB. Had the 3rd ranked defense with the Titans in 2018 and 12th ranked in 2019. Titans haven't been able to rush the QB much at all this season with Pees retired. My issue was that his defenses were middling. Which would be an improvement from where we’ve been but there is usually a significant decline. Wade Phillips would be an ok hire. If Smith decides to be HC/Play caller, I wouldn’t mind these hiring a because they could work autonomously more than a fresh faced dc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A-TowN.- 5,591 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 8 minutes ago, Atlantafan21 said: His defenses weren’t amazing by any means but they were always solid/good for the most part. It’s not a coincidence that after he retired the entire Titans defense and all their players turned to crap. Yeah exactly. He would be better than any DC we’ve had in the last 10 years easily. Not saying much, but he’s done well everywhere he’s gone. Fernando C. and ike barn87987 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ike barn87987 1,788 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 20 minutes ago, ike barn87987 said: Phillips was my top choice but Pees was my next. Somebody above mentioned Teryl Austin. He would be a good pick too. I had him paired with Brady if he was the HC but I’m glad we got Smitty. How about Austin and Pees Francis York Morgan 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonOfThemBirds 19,773 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 minute ago, Sidecar Falcon said: My issue was that his defenses were middling. Which would be an improvement from where we’ve been but there is usually a significant decline. Wade Phillips would be an ok hire. If Smith decides to be HC/Play caller, I wouldn’t mind these hiring a because they could work autonomously more than a fresh faced dc. Pees had top 10 and top 5 defenses with the Pats. He had a transition period at the end of the Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, Haloti Ngata, and Terrell Suggs era and still made them into a top 6 defense before leaving Baltimore. He made the Titans the 3rd ranked defense his 1st year and top 12 with less talent the next season. PapaJoe, Atlantafan21 and Ergo Proxy 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atlantafan21 11,029 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 9 minutes ago, Sidecar Falcon said: My issue was that his defenses were middling. Which would be an improvement from where we’ve been but there is usually a significant decline. Wade Phillips would be an ok hire. If Smith decides to be HC/Play caller, I wouldn’t mind these hiring a because they could work autonomously more than a fresh faced dc. Almost all his defenses were top 12 at worst though according to what A-Town posted. At worst, he did a good job with the LBs and S on the teams he coached. At S especially, he’s consistently made guys look like pro bowlers or even All-Pros. The one negative I see with him is that his defenses haven’t had dominant pass rushes from recent memory. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigjmw84 393 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 How does Grady fit into the 3-4 equation? I'm aware how explosive he is, but will his height limitaion mess with his production? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonOfThemBirds 19,773 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 4 minutes ago, bigjmw84 said: How does Grady fit into the 3-4 equation? I'm aware how explosive he is, but will his height limitaion mess with his production? Didn't stop Aaron Donald. Pees will know what to do with Grady. Ovie_Lover, bigjmw84, Ergo Proxy and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ovie_Lover 29,977 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 8 minutes ago, bigjmw84 said: How does Grady fit into the 3-4 equation? I'm aware how explosive he is, but will his height limitaion mess with his production? No Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PeytonMannings Forehead 27,502 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 2 minutes ago, DonOfThemBirds said: Didn't stop Aaron Donald. Pees will know what to do with Grady. Different scheme. Phillips has a more one gap approach, so Donald was able to stay at 3-tech and penetrate. Pees has always had more of a two gap approach. Ergo Proxy and DonOfThemBirds 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
xSICKxWITHxITx 3,578 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 2 hours ago, DonOfThemBirds said: If Dean Pees comes on as a DC/Defensive Advisor, he could train a young defensive coach to take over as DC in the near future. I read it could be his son. DonOfThemBirds 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonOfThemBirds 19,773 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 4 minutes ago, PeytonMannings Forehead said: Different scheme. Phillips has a more one gap approach, so Donald was able to stay at 3-tech and penetrate. Pees has always had more of a two gap approach. By Pees coming from years with Belichick, would he find a way to fit Grady into his scheme? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PeytonMannings Forehead 27,502 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 minute ago, DonOfThemBirds said: By Pees coming from years with Belichick, would he find a way to fit Grady into his scheme? I would imagine so, but that still might not entail using him at his full capabilities. Like we were running odd fronts last year to start the season (and getting gashed while doing it I may add) ... Grady’s the type of player who played it but it wasn’t doing what he did best. DonOfThemBirds and Ergo Proxy 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PeytonMannings Forehead 27,502 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 2 minutes ago, FalconsGM said: I have a question, guys. Do you know why Todd Wash is our DC on his Wikipedia page? I missed something or whoever wrote it comes from the future Interesting... and would make a lot of sense. Ergo Proxy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Architect 818 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 No clue what's coming but this seems like it could be great news. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonOfThemBirds 19,773 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 7 minutes ago, FalconsGM said: I have a question, guys. Do you know why Todd Wash is our DC on his Wikipedia page? I missed something or whoever wrote it comes from the future I think it's changed to vacant now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FentayeJones 23,803 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 3 minutes ago, The Architect said: No clue what's coming but this seems like it could be great news. Rapsheet just says Pees would come on and help. Did not say he would be DC. Ergo Proxy and The Architect 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonOfThemBirds 19,773 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 minute ago, The Architect said: No clue what's coming but this seems like it could be great news. If true and lives up to how she's making it out to be, I'm crying rivers of excitement on the inside. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonOfThemBirds 19,773 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 minute ago, FentayeJones said: Lol, Saints has became a hot bed for GM and HC candidates. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PeytonMannings Forehead 27,502 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 minute ago, FalconsGM said: Was he a good DC or not? The Jaguars finished last so I don't know. But he was the DC in Sacksonville, after that they traded all the good players. Maybe we could hire him to be our D-Line coach Lol you answered your own question. That defense was rolling until they traded everyone. And his scheme is more of a fit for what we already have. You get Pees, you’d have to break some things to get it running. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RazorWing 741 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 23 minutes ago, FalconsGM said: I have a question, guys. Do you know why Todd Wash is our DC on his Wikipedia page? I missed something or whoever wrote it comes from the future Lol. I saw it on wiki too Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PeytonMannings Forehead 27,502 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 10 minutes ago, FalconsGM said: Was he a good DC or not? The Jaguars finished last so I don't know. But he was the DC in Sacksonville, after that they traded all the good players. Maybe we could hire him to be our D-Line coach Just now, RazorWing said: Lol. I saw it on wiki too Now this is the real question here: how exactly did you find yourself on Todd Wash’s wiki page, of all people? 😂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RazorWing 741 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Just now, PeytonMannings Forehead said: Now this is the real question here: how exactly did you find yourself on Todd Wash’s wiki page, of all people? 😂 I went to look on wiki after falconsgm mentioned it. PeytonMannings Forehead 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThrashUnreal 45 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Yeah, i'd rather they didn't. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PeytonMannings Forehead 27,502 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Just now, FalconsGM said: I was looking for a potential D-Line coach for the Falcons. I found an article that said he was a good coach. I went to his wikipedia page to see where he coached and I saw that it was our DC Gotcha. He does have a great rep with defensive lines but if it is Pees, I’m not sure it would be a fit for him there. Defensive line isn’t primarily where the pressure comes from in his scheme. The Jets with his old understudy Saleh would make more sense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PeytonMannings Forehead 27,502 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 minute ago, FalconsGM said: Our defense would work best in 3-4 in my opinion. Todd Wash would coach the Interior Lineman and Tosh Lupoi the Edge Rusher. I would have preferred Wade Philips for 2-3 years to put the defensive players in the best positions to use 100% of each player and win a Superbowl with Matt and JJ. With Dean Pees as senior assistant and during the 2-3 years train a young defensive coach to take over when they retire. But I also have a question we lack Edge Rusher, so why not bring Vic Beasley back for the minimum for 1 year and use it in OLB on the RT where he could beat him with his speed. Use him in a Von Miller role where he's best, in DE he hasn't enough pass rush move to beat the tackle. So we keep draft capital and we can go back down to the draft and draft another position than Edge Why would our defense work best in a 3-4 And Vic Beasley has already played the Von Miller role when he was moved to SAM. Ergo Proxy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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