Geaux_Falcons 1,173 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 I'd say this is probably the next most important hire at this juncture. Smith is calling the plays it sounds like, so really establishing the DC and getting an idea of what pieces will need to go and which ones are to be kept is vital right now. Forget who Smith has connections and past history with. We need the best mind available. With Smith being a young coach, I wouldn't mind going with a vet DC like a Wade Phillips or Peas. Romeo Crennel wouldn't be bad hire either. Likely will require a switch to a 3-4 with one of the mentioned so far. TF has connections with Aaron Glenn, who's well regarded around the league, and of course has been on staff for the Saints over the last few years. Teryl Austin was once being considered for a HC job, and that Steelers secondary has been a true strength since he arrived. Getting a DC job and showcasing himself to be a HC candidate may help us a lot. Plenty of experience here as well. Brandon Staley is a hot, young name that also may want to get a DC job to showcase himself. I won't rule out Rah and Ulbrich being established as a co-DC pairing. They can truly build things how they would want, and with how much more different the defense looked in general with them, wouldn't be a bad idea. pa_falcon_fan 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
papachaz 18,819 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 12 hours ago, g-dawg said: Guesses are like *** holes - everybody has them. or boobs, some make better points than others JDaveG, 1989Fan, Flyin' In DC and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1989Fan 15,407 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 6 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said: I’m curious as to why not? Bountygate? Or is there another reason? General consensus is dude is a bit toxic...the other is the cover zero call this year...not interested in a guy that was that situationally clueless...even if it was one play. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rings 6,683 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 8 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said: I’m curious as to why not? Bountygate? Or is there another reason? There is a reason he has been on so many teams for such a short stay. papachaz, Herr Doktor, 1989Fan and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya_boi_j 65,799 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 If it's a vet DC, I feel they can get the most out of the current group. As bad as it seemed, the defense made a complete 180 after Quinn was fired. There's definitely hope Herr Doktor 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonOfThemBirds 18,431 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 If the Falcons go more big name vet for DC then Phillips or Pees would be great. ........ **** no to Gregg Williams. Rings, NashvilleFalcon01 and Thiccolas Cage 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hokies&Falcons 138 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 There are some good Defensive play callers available, like Jim Schwartz, Wade Phillips, and Gregg Williams. All of whom are much better than what we've had here in recent years in my opinion. I have no idea about scheme fits for Smith though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonOfThemBirds 18,431 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Just now, Hokies&Falcons said: There are some good Defensive Coordinators available, like Jim Schwartz, Wade Phillips, and Gregg Williams. All of whom are much better than what we've had here in recent years in my opinion. I have no idea about scheme fits for Smith though. I've heard that Jim Schwartz may be retiring. Wade Phillips is coming out of retirement and Dean Pees says he'll come out of retirement for the right situation. Hokies&Falcons, GATXBOI and NashvilleFalcon01 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brewcrew 2,864 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 5 minutes ago, Hokies&Falcons said: I have no idea about scheme fits for Smith though. To this point it’s important to note that Arthur started his career on defense, I expect he has a more wholistic view and perhaps more specific defensive scheme preferences than other OC turned HC. What that preference might be though is anyone’s guess. PeytonMannings Forehead and GATXBOI 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
capitan 171 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 15 hours ago, falcndave said: I haven't heard any yet. Is Morris still technically on staff here? It would be odd to retain him, but the absence of rumors at this point is equally odd. I hope they keep Ulbrecht for continuity. He did a good job and is good at coaching the current scheme. Our defense is good but they are on the field too much because of 3 and outs from the inept offense. We do need to draft a safety and/or corner. Not in any particular order... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
capitan 171 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Our issues are players that are playing outside their position like Marlon Davidson. DQ wanted in to play inside...he gets hurt and we never see him play. If he stayed at DE we would have been fine IMO. GATXBOI 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ike barn87987 1,695 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 28 minutes ago, Hokies&Falcons said: There are some good Defensive play callers available, like Jim Schwartz, Wade Phillips, and Gregg Williams. All of whom are much better than what we've had here in recent years in my opinion. I have no idea about scheme fits for Smith though. Schwartz retired for health reasons Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigjmw84 355 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 40 minutes ago, capitan said: Our issues are players that are playing outside their position like Marlon Davidson. DQ wanted in to play inside...he gets hurt and we never see him play. If he stayed at DE we would have been fine IMO. Same with Comminski capitan 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hokies&Falcons 138 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 47 minutes ago, ike barn87987 said: Schwartz retired for health reasons That stinks, because he's a good one. Maltese Falcon 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Herr Doktor 5,995 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 28 minutes ago, bigjmw84 said: Same with Comminski Quinn loved moving DE's inside. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marvinthemartian 5,070 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 22 hours ago, g-dawg said: Guesses are like *** holes - everybody has them. Depends on exactly how you define that term. Not everyone. People with full, permanent colostomies typically do not have a functional one. falconsd56 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
g-dawg 42,695 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 13 hours ago, marvinthemartian said: Depends on exactly how you define that term. Not everyone. People with full, permanent colostomies typically do not have a functional one. Tell us more Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pacific_Falcon 4,641 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 On 1/16/2021 at 7:32 AM, Ovie_Lover said: have you ever watched his defense? I felt like when Williams was in NO, like every play was a blitz. He made Rex Ryan look like Mike Smith. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconBlood23 2,236 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 We getting 2 DC's? https://www.thefalcoholic.com/2021/1/19/22238366/colts-dbs-coach-jonathan-gannon-reportedly-could-be-co-dc-with-dean-pees-in-atlanta Colts DBs coach Jonathan Gannon reportedly could be co-DC with Dean Pees in Atlanta The list of names the Falcons are considering for their coordinator vacancies is slowly growing. By Dave Choate Jan 19, 2021, 7:32am EST 4 Comments Share this story Share this on Facebook (opens in new window) Share this on Twitter (opens in new window) Share All sharing options Mark J. Rebilas-USA TODAY Sports Arthur Smith hasn’t filled any spots on his staff formally just yet, but we’re starting to get a sense of who the new Falcons head coach is interested in. That short list has thus far included Bears passing game coordinator Dave Ragone and Panthers wide receivers coach Frisman Jackson for offensive coordinator and longtime, quasi-retired defensive coordinator Dean Pees for a similar role in Atlanta. You can now add Colts defensive backs coach Jonathan Gannon to the list, with the interesting note from Sports Illustrated’s Albert Breer that he could serve as a co-defensive coordinator with Pees. Based on that report, presumably a condition for Pees coming back to the NFL at 71 years of age would be that he has a capable, younger coach to split the work with. Gannon is a name heating up in NFL circles, evidently, as the Bears have requested to interview him for their own defensive coordinator vacancy. Gannon has spent the previous three seasons as the Colts defensive backs coach after spending four seasons as an assistant defensive backs coach with the Vikings for four years. He’s drawn attention for his work with the Colts secondary, an improving unit, and likely based on the strong recommendation of Frank Reich, one of the more well-regarded head coaches in the league today. It’s a safe bet that Gannon would handle something like a defensive passing game coordinator role if he was paired with Pees, but like everything else with Smith’s staff, we’ll have to wait and see. In addition to Gannon, I’d hope the Falcons would take a closer look at Saints defensive backs coach Aaron Glenn. A respected former player and personnel scout for the Jets from 2012-2013, Glenn has spent the past five years as the Saints’ defensive backs coach, helping to lift a once-terrible secondary to a much more respectable level. Glenn was in play for the Jets head coaching gig this offseason and could be a strong addition for Atlanta in a defensive coordinator role, and new general manager Terry Fontenot would know him well. We’ll see who the Falcons scoop up for their coordinator openings soon enough, including at special teams coordinator, where we’ve yet to hear any names. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alomar 277 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 On 1/16/2021 at 5:31 AM, MarkMc44 said: I'm all in for Jeff Ulbrich. Adds a bit of continuity. Let him have a clean slate to assemble a staff, have a voice in personnel and establish an identity. He's an up and comer! GO FALCONS!!!!! I agree 100%!!! MarkMc44 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
celtiksage 1,913 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 1 hour ago, FalconBlood23 said: We getting 2 DC's? https://www.thefalcoholic.com/2021/1/19/22238366/colts-dbs-coach-jonathan-gannon-reportedly-could-be-co-dc-with-dean-pees-in-atlanta Colts DBs coach Jonathan Gannon reportedly could be co-DC with Dean Pees in Atlanta The list of names the Falcons are considering for their coordinator vacancies is slowly growing. By Dave Choate Jan 19, 2021, 7:32am EST 4 Comments Share this story Share this on Facebook (opens in new window) Share this on Twitter (opens in new window) Share All sharing options Mark J. Rebilas-USA TODAY Sports Arthur Smith hasn’t filled any spots on his staff formally just yet, but we’re starting to get a sense of who the new Falcons head coach is interested in. That short list has thus far included Bears passing game coordinator Dave Ragone and Panthers wide receivers coach Frisman Jackson for offensive coordinator and longtime, quasi-retired defensive coordinator Dean Pees for a similar role in Atlanta. You can now add Colts defensive backs coach Jonathan Gannon to the list, with the interesting note from Sports Illustrated’s Albert Breer that he could serve as a co-defensive coordinator with Pees. Based on that report, presumably a condition for Pees coming back to the NFL at 71 years of age would be that he has a capable, younger coach to split the work with. Gannon is a name heating up in NFL circles, evidently, as the Bears have requested to interview him for their own defensive coordinator vacancy. Gannon has spent the previous three seasons as the Colts defensive backs coach after spending four seasons as an assistant defensive backs coach with the Vikings for four years. He’s drawn attention for his work with the Colts secondary, an improving unit, and likely based on the strong recommendation of Frank Reich, one of the more well-regarded head coaches in the league today. It’s a safe bet that Gannon would handle something like a defensive passing game coordinator role if he was paired with Pees, but like everything else with Smith’s staff, we’ll have to wait and see. In addition to Gannon, I’d hope the Falcons would take a closer look at Saints defensive backs coach Aaron Glenn. A respected former player and personnel scout for the Jets from 2012-2013, Glenn has spent the past five years as the Saints’ defensive backs coach, helping to lift a once-terrible secondary to a much more respectable level. Glenn was in play for the Jets head coaching gig this offseason and could be a strong addition for Atlanta in a defensive coordinator role, and new general manager Terry Fontenot would know him well. We’ll see who the Falcons scoop up for their coordinator openings soon enough, including at special teams coordinator, where we’ve yet to hear any names. Oh yeah. Our D has been so bad we're going to hire 2 DCs. Hahaha Actually, I've been on Gannon's bandwagon for a bit. There was a connection between he and Smith in TN (I think that's where I found him... maybe they shared an office at some point or were both in the same position with TN). PeytonMannings Forehead and Herr Doktor 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PeytonMannings Forehead 27,502 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Gannon is someone who would excite me, but you can keep that co-coordinator bull****. Reeks of the kind of goofiness we always find ourselves in. Pick one or the other. Herr Doktor, falconsd56, Flyin' In DC and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconBlood23 2,236 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 2 minutes ago, PeytonMannings Forehead said: Gannon is someone who would excite me, but you can keep that co-coordinator bull****. Reeks of the kind of goofiness we always find ourselves in. Pick one or the other. I doubt we will actually have 2 DC's cause I never seen that ever before. I bet tho we get Pees as like a consultant to train up Gannon, or maybe in some assistant role. Absolute 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PeytonMannings Forehead 27,502 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 1 minute ago, FalconBlood23 said: I doubt we will actually have 2 DC's cause I never seen that ever before. I bet tho we get Pees as like a consultant to train up Gannon, or maybe in some assistant role. It’s been done before, mainly at the college level but it’s been done... Vikings had co-coordinators this year. And at this point if Gannon was my target, I wouldn’t bring in an old guy to look over his should either. Gannon is a hot name right now and I’m sure anxious to put his own stamp on a defense — Eagles with McDaniel for example where he’d likely be able to run the show. You wanna entice a prime candidate you’d have to at least match that. falconsd56 and celtiksage 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconBlood23 2,236 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 2 minutes ago, PeytonMannings Forehead said: It’s been done before, mainly at the college level but it’s been done... Vikings had co-coordinators this year. And at this point if Gannon was my target, I wouldn’t bring in an old guy to look over his should either. Gannon is a hot name right now and I’m sure anxious to put his own stamp on a defense — Eagles with McDaniel for example where he’d likely be able to run the show. You wanna entice a prime candidate you’d have to at least match that. Yep, that is a good point. Lets see what coach Arthur does with his DC pick, lots of ways he can take it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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