FalconOdense 1,402 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 (edited) Project: Dont run on us. We will run at you. New H/C: Arthur Smith New DC: Wade Phillips Free Agency: Cut: Ricardo Allen Allen Bailey James Carpenter - Notable Signings: Richard Sherman, CB - 2 years. A proven vet for the secondary Not much money for FA so we prioritize leadership and our secondary really needs it. That is why Sherman is brought in. He still got it. DRAFT : TRADE: Washington Football Team wants a new QB when Justin Fields fall to 4. They give up 19, 51, 74 and 83 and next years second. Great trade for the Falcons. Jaguars: Trevor Lawrence Jets: Zach Wilson Miami: Penei Sewell 1. Zaven Collins, Edge, Tulsa · - Maybe the best pass rusher in the draft. We give Wade Phillips a nice weapon 2a. Alijah Vera-Tucker, G, USC · This is not sexy but we continue to build an O line with a no ******** attitute. This completes our line 2b Patrick Jones, DE, Pittsburgh - Pass rush, pass rush.. Another one, but we need a decent rotation. We will attack during 60 minutes - not just 30 minutes. 3a Ar'Darius Washington , Safety, TCU - Our new free safety. He will surprise a lot of people and get the chance to start next to Neal who gets a one year prove it deal. 3b Paulson Adebo, CB, Stanford - big, strong corner who will compete sooner rather than later. 3c Alim Mcneil, DT, NC State - Big guy we will put on the D line next to Grady. He will also you some pass rush, but he will stop the run 4 Rhamondre Stevenson, RB, Oklahoma - Here you have your big back and he is about to hurt some people. 5. Elijah Molden, CB, Washington - He will be in the rotation. 6. Braydon Johnson, WR, Oklahoma State - A prospect who needs to learn at the next level. Hopefully Allen can teach him a thing or two. STARTING LINE UP – DEFENSE - 3-4: DE: Marlon Davidson DT: Alim McNeil DE: Grady Jarrett OLB: Zaven Collins MLB: Foye Oluokun MLB: Deion Jones OLB: Dante Fowler(Patrick Jones) DB1: AJ Terrell DB2: Richard Sherman DB3: Kendall Sheffield SS: Keanu Neal FS: Ar'Darius Washington STARTING LINE UP – OFFENSE: QB: Matt Ryan RB: Rhamondre Stevenson TE1: Hayden Hurst WR1: Julio Jones WR2: Calvin Ridley WR3: Russell Gage O Line: Jake Matthews, Alijah Vera-Tucker, Matt Henessy, Chris Lindstrom, Kaleb McGary Edited January 15 by FalconOdense Doug Carlton, quickzero, 408Falcon and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doug Carlton 1,146 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 HATE the move to 3-4, hate it. LOVE the trade with WFT. DO NOT WANT Sherman. Rather take another rare talent in the draft with that 2b pick LOVE LOVE LOVE Collins in the 1st!!! (maybe my favorite player in the draft) IF Najee Harris is there at 2a we MUST take him. If not and a Jaycee Horn or a Asante Samuel or Tyson Campbell is available I hope we go CB, if not Trey Sermon on down the line. Need another RB stud for Smith. LOVE Alim Mcneil in the 3rd, WICKED fast DT that gets to the QB, but I want him next to Grady in the 4-3 wrecking the inside and allowing Collins to come screaming off the edge to blow up plays. Great work man. vitaman, FalconOdense and rugger8 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Great American 4,592 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 There's a lot to dissect. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Smiler11 6,256 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 I don't get the love moving to a 3-4. Our best pieces on defense are better fits for a 4-3. Doug Carlton, Slimm, Atlantafan21 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Herr Doktor 8,162 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 The Sherman selection is not a favorite. I love the player, but he's 32. Getting older for a CB. But, he has intangibles. Doug Carlton 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rugger8 1,493 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 I generally like it, but I'll be disappointed if we don't get one of Javonte Williams, Etienne, or Harris. A few of these guys were not on my radar - mostly because they are below the radar of the sites I frequent, but that's not a criticism. I LOVE McNeill. I suspect he'll rise quite a bit between now and April. I also think it makes a lot of sense to double down on passrushing DE. Ours are not worth mentioning. I think the glaring omission, given the news about Smith, is that I can't imagine him not going after the TE position, given his background. Ours are at best 'just ok.' Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JetJones11 580 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 If Fields is on the board you take him ... end of story TX Falcon, CaliFalcons and Macknsweetjones 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PriMeTiiMe 7,838 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 58 minutes ago, Smiler11 said: I don't get the love moving to a 3-4. Our best pieces on defense are better fits for a 4-3. Davidson can go back to his college playing weight and play DE. Him trying to bulk up to play DT is going to waste him away in a 4-3. Fowler can go back to the role he played with the Rams when he was playing great. He is looking like the Jags Fowler as a 4-3 DE (Even if he was hurt, He does not look good). Deion/Foye can be our David/White like the Bucs have. Both can scream through the middle or cover as needed. Grady will still eat as a 3-4 DE and would likely get more sacks than he does in our current 4-3. We would need 1 edge rusher at LB and a true NT in terms of our front 7. Back end we would need a CB2 and FS no matter if we are in a 4-3 or 3-4. federicofalcon2, UnrealfalcoN, gkgrimes and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dirtybird56 5,374 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 12 minutes ago, JetJones11 said: If Fields is on the board you take him ... end of story Nah maybe Wilson not Fields tho. Come back to this in 3 years and see duckhoa, lymond, RedandBlack4ever and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconsIn2012 35,703 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 I think we have three 5th round picks so keep adding Rings, JohnnyFranchise and quickzero 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
celtiksage 2,682 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 If those are our picks with a trade down, I'm targetting: 19 CB Farley/Surtain, DT Barmore or TE Kyle Pitts if they fall or DE Carlos "Boogie" Basham Jr, DE Jayson Oweh, S Trevon Moehrig, CB Jaycee Horn, LB Nick Bolton, QB Mac Jones, OL Wyatt Davis, RB Harris 51 RB Javonte Williams, S Javon Holland or DE Patrick Jones II or Joseph Ossai, OL Trey Smith, RB Trey Sermon, TE Pat Friermuth 74 Creed Humphrey, DE Quincy Roche, OL Deonte Brown or Landon Dickerson, TE Brevin Jordan, 83 DE Rashad Weaver, S Ar'Darius Washington, QB Jamie Newman, RB Kenneth Gainwell, DT Tyler Shelvin or Jaylen Twyman, OL Trey Hill quickzero 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconsIn2012 35,703 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 The only thing I’d tweak is RB should be addressed 2a and OG 4. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconsIn2012 35,703 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Imagine getting a similar offer from the 49ers. Dang Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Smiler11 6,256 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 53 minutes ago, PriMeTiiMe said: Davidson can go back to his college playing weight and play DE. Him trying to bulk up to play DT is going to waste him away in a 4-3. Fowler can go back to the role he played with the Rams when he was playing great. He is looking like the Jags Fowler as a 4-3 DE (Even if he was hurt, He does not look good). Deion/Foye can be our David/White like the Bucs have. Both can scream through the middle or cover as needed. Grady will still eat as a 3-4 DE and would likely get more sacks than he does in our current 4-3. We would need 1 edge rusher at LB and a true NT in terms of our front 7. Back end we would need a CB2 and FS no matter if we are in a 4-3 or 3-4. I'm not saying it can't be done, it's just that our best building blocks in our front 7 (Debo, Jarrett, Foye, Walker) are better fits in a 4-3. Sure I could see the two Dave's, Fowler, Cominsky etc being good fits. I'm not convinced at all that Grady will get more opportunities for sacks as 2-gapping 5 techs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shock 2,287 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Hate the haul because the trade would put us in the perfect spot to get Harris. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dapanch420 569 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 More like falconssodense edition im pretty sure arthur smith wants a new qb to bring his offensive ideas to life. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
insight 1,905 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 I still see a team struggling to make the playoffs with no chance of seriously competing a Superbowl for a minimum of 2 or 3 season. You just don't switch to a 3/4 defense with limited cap space and become a top 10 defense over night with a bunch of rookies. I hope Smith brings a legitimate plan to transform this franchise into a superbowl contender not sure wade Philips helps the cause. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyFranchise 2,608 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 3 hours ago, FalconOdense said: Project: Dont run on us. We will run at you. i hope that becomes the new team slogan FalconOdense 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigjmw84 380 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 3 hours ago, FalconOdense said: Project: Dont run on us. We will run at you. New H/C: Arthur Smith New DC: Wade Phillips Free Agency: Cut: Ricardo Allen Allen Bailey James Carpenter - Notable Signings: Richard Sherman, CB - 2 years. A proven vet for the secondary Not much money for FA so we prioritize leadership and our secondary really needs it. That is why Sherman is brought in. He still got it. DRAFT : TRADE: Washington Football Team wants a new QB when Justin Fields fall to 4. They give up 19, 51, 74 and 83 and next years second. Great trade for the Falcons. Jaguars: Trevor Lawrence Jets: Zach Wilson Miami: Penei Sewell 1. Zaven Collins, Edge, Tulsa · - Maybe the best pass rusher in the draft. We give Wade Phillips a nice weapon 2a. Alijah Vera-Tucker, G, USC · This is not sexy but we continue to build an O line with a no ******** attitute. This completes our line 2b Patrick Jones, DE, Pittsburgh - Pass rush, pass rush.. Another one, but we need a decent rotation. We will attack during 60 minutes - not just 30 minutes. 3a Ar'Darius Washington , Safety, TCU - Our new free safety. He will surprise a lot of people and get the chance to start next to Neal who gets a one year prove it deal. 3b Paulson Adebo, CB, Stanford - big, strong corner who will compete sooner rather than later. 3c Alim Mcneil, DT, NC State - Big guy we will put on the D line next to Grady. He will also you some pass rush, but he will stop the run 4 Rhamondre Stevenson, RB, Oklahoma - Here you have your big back and he is about to hurt some people. 5. Elijah Molden, CB, Washington - He will be in the rotation. 6. Braydon Johnson, WR, Oklahoma State - A prospect who needs to learn at the next level. Hopefully Allen can teach him a thing or two. STARTING LINE UP – DEFENSE - 3-4: DE: Marlon Davidson DT: Alim McNeil DE: Grady Jarrett OLB: Zaven Collins MLB: Foye Oluokun MLB: Deion Jones OLB: Dante Fowler(Patrick Jones) DB1: AJ Terrell DB2: Richard Sherman DB3: Kendall Sheffield SS: Keanu Neal FS: Ar'Darius Washington STARTING LINE UP – OFFENSE: QB: Matt Ryan RB: Rhamondre Stevenson TE1: Hayden Hurst WR1: Julio Jones WR2: Calvin Ridley WR3: Russell Gage O Line: Jake Matthews, Alijah Vera-Tucker, Matt Henessy, Chris Lindstrom, Kaleb McGary Nice. I was working on one last night and and its scary similar to yours. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thanat0s 5,165 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Like I say every time I see trade down mocks, this a QB a team is trying to get, not some other position. Absolutely nobody is getting off that cheap. I’m asking 1,2,3 this year and likely 1,2 next year. Especially to move 15 spots to the skins pick? They gotta pay if they’re sold on that QB being their franchise for ten years. Norwood all the way! and Run 'n' Shoot 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bobby.Digital 4,140 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Highly doubt Smith would pass on Fields or Wilson. A big reason why his offense worked is the threat of his QBs ability to run. Both these guys have the ability to be wayyyyy better than Tannehill. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thanat0s 5,165 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 2 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said: Imagine getting a similar offer from the 49ers. Dang Now that’s the going rate for a QB trade. The one op proposed is highway robbery by the skins. 1989Fan 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jesus 26,415 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Sheffield isn't starting over Oliver in the slot. In fact Sheffield probably won't be on the team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SoCalFalconFan 1,699 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 3 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said: Imagine getting a similar offer from the 49ers. Dang Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hard Case 267 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 3 hours ago, JetJones11 said: If Fields is on the board you take him ... end of story Wrong. Peteshweddy and quickzero 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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