FalconFanSince1969 15,524 Posted January 14 Author Share Posted January 14 3 minutes ago, Mr.11 said: I would do it, but being a "running team" has less to do with personnel and more to do with commitment and mental cycles devoted to that aspect of the offense. Green Bay didn't have to expend a first round pick, let alone a top 10 pick, on a RB to become the solid rushing team they became the last two seasons. I'm not saying that Smith or whoever will turn Brian Hill or Ito Smith into pro bowl rushers, but I don't think we really need wholesale changes on the offense. Defense is another story though. That comment was moreso about fortifying the line than drafting a rb. We need a lg in the worst way and we don't know what we have at c yet. Also we need to shift some resources to the defense as you said. I just want a strong foundation. Mr.11 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
isproab 2,012 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 No, he is a young player that is part of the future long-term future for this team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spts1 6,828 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 16 hours ago, Falcons Fan MVP said: No. Ridley is my boy Ridley grew on me. He is a keeper. Imagine Ridley with Devonta Smith and Russell Gage. The better move would be to trade Juilo for picks and draft Devonta. Realsurfin 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconFan13 1,626 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 3 hours ago, Realsurfin said: All good on paper if all those guys you name are available in the sequence you call out. Reality then steps in and your precise planning is in tatters. Ridley is just getting better by the season. He has and is an integral part of the team at this point. Lets see what the new GM and HC decide. If we ever fill those positions... lol Theirs only a chance the RB isn't going to be there lol. Chase and Smith are pretty much locks 1 of them are there at 4. Najee at 25 is a stretch but trust me i can find something else at 25 to use it on and still come out ok or **** i got 3 extra picks from the trade i can use 25 + a pick and go get harris if i want him bad enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconFanSince1969 15,524 Posted January 14 Author Share Posted January 14 2 minutes ago, Spts1 said: Ridley grew on me. He is a keeper. Imagine Ridley with Devonta Smith and Russell Gage. The better move would be to trade Juilo for picks and draft Devonta. Imagine still not having a defense or running game because we keep dumping resources into the wr position. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
irrevelantfalconsfan 248 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 No. Maybe if Diggs was younger, but Calvin seems to have a lengthier career ahead. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconFanSince1969 15,524 Posted January 14 Author Share Posted January 14 1 minute ago, irrevelantfalconsfan said: No. Maybe if Diggs was younger, but Calvin seems to have a lengthier career ahead. Huh? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
irrevelantfalconsfan 248 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Just now, FalconFanSince1969 said: Huh? Basically, as of right now, Calvin will still be in the NFL after Diggs retires. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spts1 6,828 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 3 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1969 said: Imagine still not having a defense or running game because we keep dumping resources into the wr position. You can address needs with the Julio picks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconFanSince1969 15,524 Posted January 14 Author Share Posted January 14 1 minute ago, Spts1 said: You can address needs with the Julio picks. You can address more needs without dumping premium resources Into the wr position....why does this team need two elite wrs? How many losing seasons have we had being constructed this way? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CraigSmackDaddy 2,073 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Nah... I'd keep Ridley. Realsurfin 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jetpac 306 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 6 hours ago, ya_boi_j said: By your logic that means Justin Jefferson is better than Ridley already. 125 targets, 88 catches, 1400yards, 7 touchdowns, 2 drops. Ridley 143 targets, 90 catches, 1374 yards, 9 touchdowns, 6 drops. By my logic, Calvin Ridley is better than Stephen Diggs. Don’t even get me start on per route separation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheRisen999 494 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 No.. unless we wanna look like this years Patriots team. No stars anywhere and no building blocks for the future. Julio may already be on the trading block, we'll need to keep whatever sure things we have. I say if they do trade Julio keep Ryan, Ridley, Hurst, Koo and the few standouts we have on defense and scrub everything else. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya_boi_j 67,519 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 11 minutes ago, jetpac said: By my logic, Calvin Ridley is better than Stephen Diggs. Don’t even get me start on per route separation. Lawd have mercy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
octoslash 18,230 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 I'd trade Ridley for a box of kicking tees. He sucks. 😜 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Realsurfin 1,164 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 1 hour ago, TheRisen999 said: No.. unless we wanna look like this years Patriots team. No stars anywhere and no building blocks for the future. Julio may already be on the trading block, we'll need to keep whatever sure things we have. I say if they do trade Julio keep Ryan, Ridley, Hurst, Koo and the few standouts we have on defense and scrub everything else. Gage can stick around. He shows up. Needs a good coach. TheRisen999 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jetpac 306 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 6 hours ago, ya_boi_j said: Lawd have mercy He always does Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AUTiger7222 7,658 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 On 1/13/2021 at 6:41 PM, Jesus said: What is this idea that every player with talent should be traded away? How are the Vikings doing? Because no one here wants to have any players making big bucks cause "tHe SaLaRy CaP ****" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
autigerfan 930 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Ridley is by far our most valuable trade chip right now. I think it is much more likely we trade him at some point than Julio due to JJ's massive contract. I'm not clamoring to get rid of Ridley, but if it gives you an opportunity to improve your team overall you should consider it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jetpac 306 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 4 hours ago, autigerfan said: Ridley is by far our most valuable trade chip right now. I think it is much more likely we trade him at some point than Julio due to JJ's massive contract. I'm not clamoring to get rid of Ridley, but if it gives you an opportunity to improve your team overall you should consider it. Ain't nobody trading Rid... You're trippin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Realsurfin 1,164 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Everywhere you look folks try trading our best overall players for an unknown entity. While telling us the trade will be a slam dunk. They got to stop selling those crystal balls at the Dollar General. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NorthGaBoy 1,432 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 On 1/13/2021 at 7:35 PM, FalconFanSince1969 said: Last year the Minnesota Vikings traded Diggs to the Bills for a mess of picks. They received a 1st rounder (pick 22 I believe), a 5th, 6th and a next years 4th for him. They used that pick to draft Justin Jefferson just fyi If we sign Arthur Smith to be our HC we will need resources to shift more towards a running team and also to fix a very suspect defense. We are going to have to commit major money to Ridley very soon and then we will be right back in the same boat we got in with Julio. Might it be best to trade while his value is at it's absolute highest? I also think Ridley is better than Diggs and would fetch even more than he did in a trade. For discussion sake, lets say a team loaded with picks like the Jags come calling. They want to get Lawrence a toy to play with right out of the gate. They offer up their other first rounder (pick 25), their other 2nd rounder (pick 45) and a 2022 2nd rounder. Do you do it? **** no. Ridley can be the best. You need to see him play after Fart Cutter is gone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ryanvalz 3,722 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Yes you do it. Ridley is a good player but we haven't won with him. Get 3 picks for him, you get 3 starters which could be a running back that heaven forbid runs hard unlike the guys we have had like Girley Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt_The Iceman_Ryan 1,880 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 On 1/13/2021 at 7:35 PM, FalconFanSince1969 said: Last year the Minnesota Vikings traded Diggs to the Bills for a mess of picks. They received a 1st rounder (pick 22 I believe), a 5th, 6th and a next years 4th for him. They used that pick to draft Justin Jefferson just fyi If we sign Arthur Smith to be our HC we will need resources to shift more towards a running team and also to fix a very suspect defense. We are going to have to commit major money to Ridley very soon and then we will be right back in the same boat we got in with Julio. Might it be best to trade while his value is at it's absolute highest? I also think Ridley is better than Diggs and would fetch even more than he did in a trade. For discussion sake, lets say a team loaded with picks like the Jags come calling. They want to get Lawrence a toy to play with right out of the gate. They offer up their other first rounder (pick 25), their other 2nd rounder (pick 45) and a 2022 2nd rounder. Do you do it? Yes. In a heart beat....and for less...Ridley is at best a #2...and in a year we are going to ahve to pay him $$$$$ to stay...he just had his best year...his value isnt any higher...get a solid 2nd roudner and a 2022 3rd rounder or a 2021 4th rounder in addition to the 2021 2nd rounder...if you can get a 1st rounder...you do it without heistation... And unpolular as can be...you also trade Julio for anything similar... My hope was RIck Smith would come in and do the following trade: MR2, Ridley, #4, 2021 4th, and 2022 2nd for Deshaun Watson, JJ Watt, 2021 5th Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tmodel66 384 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 On 1/13/2021 at 7:35 PM, FalconFanSince1969 said: Last year the Minnesota Vikings traded Diggs to the Bills for a mess of picks. They received a 1st rounder (pick 22 I believe), a 5th, 6th and a next years 4th for him. They used that pick to draft Justin Jefferson just fyi If we sign Arthur Smith to be our HC we will need resources to shift more towards a running team and also to fix a very suspect defense. We are going to have to commit major money to Ridley very soon and then we will be right back in the same boat we got in with Julio. Might it be best to trade while his value is at it's absolute highest? I also think Ridley is better than Diggs and would fetch even more than he did in a trade. For discussion sake, lets say a team loaded with picks like the Jags come calling. They want to get Lawrence a toy to play with right out of the gate. They offer up their other first rounder (pick 25), their other 2nd rounder (pick 45) and a 2022 2nd rounder. Do you do it? i would endorse the Jags trade you are suggesting, but you won't get a 1st rounder, a 2nd rounder and next year's second rounder for Calvin. After all, Calvin was drafted 26 himself. He was a good pick at that slot, but I don't think you get a 1, 2 and 2 for him now. Would I do a 22, 5th, 6th and next year's 4th? Maybe not, but I'd have to think about it. We are in rebuilding mode, gents... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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