nuccah 132 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 How about keeping Matt and trying to get Tua from the Dolphins and let him sit for a year or two? Atl Falcon 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jumpin Jehosaphat 322 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 minute ago, JDaveG said: Real talk -- I'd hire him tomorrow. I understand to a certain degree, but with all due respect, I really don’t think he’s the last great OC to grace this earth in our lifetime...it’s not like he has a total monopoly on running a stellar offense in the NFL...not to mention his dipsheeyit attitude Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDaveG 42,587 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 minute ago, Jumpin Jehosaphat said: I understand to a certain degree, but with all due respect, I really don’t think he’s the last great OC to grace this earth in our lifetime...it’s not like he has a total monopoly on running a stellar offense in the NFL...not to mention his dipsheeyit attitude I LOVE his attitude personally. Always did. He knows his system, and he knows it works. We could use more of that around here. Granted, he needs to learn to run the ball in the 2nd half, but I trust people can grow. FalconsIn2012, Jumpin Jehosaphat and Ergo Proxy 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jumpin Jehosaphat 322 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 minute ago, JDaveG said: I LOVE his attitude personally. Always did. He knows his system, and he knows it works. We could use more of that around here. Granted, he needs to learn to run the ball in the 2nd half, but I trust people can grow. I respect your opinion and will admit that I’d have a different outlook on him - and even tolerate his arrogance - if he hadn’t completely blown the SB for us looooooong suffering diehards. I can’t forgive him for that, but that’s just a serious character flaw of mine...peace JDaveG 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconsIn2012 35,693 Posted January 13 Author Share Posted January 13 1 hour ago, Faithful Falcon said: I mean, that makes it more attractive. The other team will only be responsible for his base. While I would love a first and a third, I could deal with the others. Yep. You get a franchise QB for 11 mill per year Atl Falcon and Faithful Falcon 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malachore 9,229 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 hour ago, FalconFanSince1969 said: All starting QBs are valuable and he wouldn't be that expensive to another team. 23, 20 and 16 mil over the next three seasons since we would eat all the guarantees. That is easily a bargain considering the Colts just paid Rivers 25 million But the Colts didn't give up picks for Rivers either. Ryan is more valuable to the Falcons than other teams. They wouldn't get a 1st for him, I've been a defender but you can clearly see him regressing, bad OC or not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconFanSince1969 14,304 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 3 minutes ago, Malachore said: But the Colts didn't give up picks for Rivers either. Ryan is more valuable to the Falcons than other teams. They wouldn't get a 1st for him, I've been a defender but you can clearly see him regressing, bad OC or not. I've heard "Matt Ryan is regressing" and "Matt Ryan is old" on this board since 2013. On the bright side, eventually you'll be right. Ergo Proxy, Skin doc, Jumpin Jehosaphat and 2 others 2 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconsIn2012 35,693 Posted January 13 Author Share Posted January 13 20 minutes ago, JDaveG said: Real talk -- I'd hire him tomorrow. Anyone who says they wouldn’t is straight up lying. I’d trade the next two years 1st round picks for Shanny...real talk JDaveG 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jumpin Jehosaphat 322 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 minute ago, FalconsIn2012 said: Anyone who says they wouldn’t is straight up lying. I’d trade the next two years 1st round picks for Shanny...real talk Wow! If that’s real talk, then I seriously underestimated his brilliance, especially in running a defense Skin doc 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faithful Falcon 8,113 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 hour ago, ROMERO said: Ryan isnt the problem He's not solely the problem. His salary is part of the problem. It's the business though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MSalmon 10,998 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 2 hours ago, celtiksage said: Dwindling arm? Where do you guys get this stuff? I watched him throw 55 yards in the air this year (at least twice in the last 3 or 4 games). Accuracy and decision-making I could agree with, but arm strength? Come on, man. Let's not reach. His decision-making is what is baffling. But as bad as we've sucked, maybe he wouldn't be doing that if we had a defense that didn't require a 5 score lead in the last 2 quarters to preserve a win. Right on. Honestly, you see a bad offend here constraining a very good player Ergo Proxy and celtiksage 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Borat 2,401 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 The hurdle isn’t the packages, it’s our dead money. Matt will be here another 1-2 years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malachore 9,229 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 22 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1969 said: I've heard "Matt Ryan is regressing" and "Matt Ryan is old" on this board since 2013. On the bright side, eventually you'll be right. Me too but I only started seeing it in 2020. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atl Falcon 3,937 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 1 hour ago, ROMERO said: Ryan isnt the problem Something tells me I’ve heard that before lol. The point of this thread is figured out how he’s part of the solution RING OF HONOR 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
celtiksage 1,967 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 1 hour ago, Malachore said: The guy had to hit low flying birds on his deep balls, it's why so many are broken up. I can throw a ball 50 yards but it's a duck. We'll agree to disagree. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 22,493 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 7 hours ago, Knight of God said: Trade Matt for a second in next years draft. Draft a QB 4th overall. Rookie QB busts or is injured. Then what? Draft a QB in the 1st or 2nd round next year? Risk wasting a year then. Then trade the house for a WR. Rinse and repeat. Knight of God 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 22,493 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 1 hour ago, Faithful Falcon said: He's not solely the problem. His salary is part of the problem. It's the business though. Salary is least of the problems, ask Saints. Get play makers and stop worrying about salaries. If a Play making QB is available, go for it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RING OF HONOR 16,418 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 2 hours ago, Jumpin Jehosaphat said: So Shanny is getting frustrated, huh? Poor baby...that is absolutely delightful...I hope he gets so frustrated that he starts bleeding out of every orifice in his body - he deserves to be more than frustrated after screwing us royally in the SB. In my book, he’s in the same category as James Stone’s boyfriend My man...lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RING OF HONOR 16,418 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 I'm sorry....if I'm getting a 1st round pick for Ryan... .reel me in. .cause I'm hooked.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EpicBird 508 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Helpful instructions I live by: See Bleacher Report as source. Immediately flush down toilet and get on with the rest of your day. You will be happier for it. Ryan isn’t getting traded in 2021. If the new guys love one of the top QBs in the draft, so be it. Outside of Lawrence none are ready to start in the NFL. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falcons_Frenzy 3,686 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 It's funny how the fanbase wants to throw Matt Ryan aside as if he's worthless but at the same time think he warrants a kings ransom in a trade. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
⚡Slumerican⚡ 5,783 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 8 hours ago, FalconFanSince1969 said: Much worse QBs have went for much more. Sam Bradfords corpse went for a 1st and a 4th. Yeah, but look at the seasons Ryan is coming off of.. Ryans fault or not, it definitely plays into the deal Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JetJones11 562 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 9 hours ago, Ergo Proxy said: It’s bleacher report. Yeah .. not very realistic ... but it shows that the public doesn’t view Ryan as a top flight QB unlike TATF who think he’s still “elite” Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vandy 39,417 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 15 hours ago, falconfanEST1989 said: 41million off our cap is as good as a 1st rounder in my eyes.... a 37 year old qb is not 1 round material sorry not sorry😐 You obviously have no clue how the cap works.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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