ATLSAGE 58 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm really not feeling Terry Fontenot. Other than working for the Saints for 16 years in various roles and basking in their success for the past 10+ years, I don't see the appeal. Maybe if we gave Terry an Assistant GM role, I'd be down but I feel like he will be learning on the job if he's given the keys to the castle. I know it sounds stupid but potentially hiring a Louisiana native and Saint employee leaves a bad taste in my mouth too. Can someone please convince me that we would be in better hands with him than Rick Smith? At least he's been a GM before and has made crucial decisions for a franchise. Fernando C. and DriveHomeSafelyAtlantaWins 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RetroRoq 499 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Devonta Freeman got signed by the Bills today... thats pretty cool. IronHead34, Borat, Rings and 7 others 5 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconFanSince1969 14,277 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Td was a first time gm, les snead was a first time gm, ect ect. Stop overthinking it. Its building a football team, not nuclear warheads. Atl Falcon, Ghosts of Glanville, The Great American and 9 others 8 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
athell 31,482 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 You people gotta get over the whole Saint connection. Honestly. Are you 12? Dr Long Shot, Artys Arryn, Atl Falcon and 12 others 9 1 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
athell 31,482 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Imagine being like "Falcons are looking at Alvin Kamara? GROSS! HE'S AN AINT!" lmao who cares Boise Falcon Fan, Rings, ya_boi_j and 5 others 7 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ATLSAGE 58 Posted January 12 Author Share Posted January 12 (edited) 7 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1969 said: Td was a first time gm, les snead was a first time gm, ect ect. Stop overthinking it. Its building a football team, not nuclear warheads. TD did a serviceable job as GM for us but he definitely made a bunch a bad moves. Same with Les Snead giving big contracts to Goff and Gurley. I'm not against a first time GM, I just don't see how he could be more appealing than some of the other candidates. I'll trust AB but his track record with hirings isn't the best and I want Fontenot to work out if he comes here. I'm looking for opinions on what Fontenot has done to make him the front runner. Edited January 12 by ATLSAGE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ATLSAGE 58 Posted January 12 Author Share Posted January 12 1 minute ago, athell said: You people gotta get over the whole Saint connection. Honestly. Are you 12? I shouldn't have mentioned it in my first post because I was only kidding. I'm not against Fontenot only because he's a Saint employee. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JD dirtybird21 22,441 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 11 minutes ago, ATLSAGE said: I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm really not feeling Terry Fontenot. Other than working for the Saints for 16 years in various roles and basking in their success for the past 10+ years, I don't see the appeal. Maybe if we gave Terry an Assistant GM role, I'd be down but I feel like he will be learning on the job if he's given the keys to the castle. I know it sounds stupid but potentially hiring a Louisiana native and Saint employee leaves a bad taste in my mouth too. Can someone please convince me that we would be in better hands with him than Rick Smith? At least he's been a GM before and has made crucial decisions for a franchise. Why are you not feeling Fontenot? Convince us he's the wrong person for the job Gee-Q 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JD dirtybird21 22,441 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 2 minutes ago, athell said: Imagine being like "Falcons are looking at Alvin Kamara? GROSS! HE'S AN AINT!" lmao who cares NO WAY! He'd give the Saints comp picks....I'll pass athell 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
athell 31,482 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 2 minutes ago, ATLSAGE said: I shouldn't have mentioned it in my first post because I was only kidding. I'm not against Fontenot only because he's a Saint employee. I mean you said it, so you have to at least partly feel it right? Otherwise why say it at all? I hate the Saints as much as the next guy, but if Fontenot gives the Falcons the best chance at building a perennial contender, you bite the bullet right? I get the hate, but at the end of the day it's business. I'd encourage you to read the write ups on him and search youtube for some videos on him, specifically prior to drafts. His hands are all over the Saints roster, especially since Pace left. He would be a good get. ATLSAGE 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
athell 31,482 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 minute ago, JD dirtybird21 said: NO WAY! He'd give the Saints comp picks....I'll pass No no, WE would give the SAINTS comp picks! Super hard pass! Iron Saint and JD dirtybird21 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ATLSAGE 58 Posted January 12 Author Share Posted January 12 1 minute ago, JD dirtybird21 said: Why are you not feeling Fontenot? Convince us he's the wrong person for the job My biggest knock is that he doesn't have a college scouting background. Hopefully, he has a network of scouts he trusts and maybe they leave NOLA for ATL but I'm still not finding any proof based on basic google research. Rick Smith checks a lot of those boxes for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ATLSAGE 58 Posted January 12 Author Share Posted January 12 1 minute ago, athell said: I mean you said it, so you have to at least partly feel it right? Otherwise why say it at all? I hate the Saints as much as the next guy, but if Fontenot gives the Falcons the best chance at building a perennial contender, you bite the bullet right? I get the hate, but at the end of the day it's business. I'd encourage you to read the write ups on him and search youtube for some videos on him, specifically prior to drafts. His hands are all over the Saints roster, especially since Pace left. He would be a good get. That's the thing. I've gone down rabbit holes on all of the candidates and Rick Smith is the guy for me. My belief is that Fontenot must be killing it in the interviews with ownership and he may have a dope vision for this team. We can only trust the people in the room to make that decision. I was just hoping I could get some info from fellow fans/Fontenot supporters. athell 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
athell 31,482 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 minute ago, ATLSAGE said: That's the thing. I've gone down rabbit holes on all of the candidates and Rick Smith is the guy for me. My belief is that Fontenot must be killing it in the interviews with ownership and he may have a dope vision for this team. We can only trust the people in the room to make that decision. I was just hoping I could get some info from fellow fans/Fontenot supporters. I like Smith. I like Fontenot. I don't know if we can go wrong with either tbh. So since you have gone down the rabbit hole, what have you not liked about what you have discovered about Fontenot? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PriMeTiiMe 7,449 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 minute ago, ATLSAGE said: That's the thing. I've gone down rabbit holes on all of the candidates and Rick Smith is the guy for me. My belief is that Fontenot must be killing it in the interviews with ownership and he may have a dope vision for this team. We can only trust the people in the room to make that decision. I was just hoping I could get some info from fellow fans/Fontenot supporters. I have a bad feeling it will be Rick Smith and their just doing their due diligence. He is complete trash though as a GM. Him drafting after the 1st round is the equivalent of him putting the entire draft class of names in a hat and randomly grabbing one. If you want to induce vomiting, I highly suggest torturing yourself into looking at his past drafts Rounds 2-7. Fair Warning: It's bad. Really...Really bad. Artys Arryn, rcky_mtn_falcon and ATLskinjob 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spts1 6,615 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 20 minutes ago, ATLSAGE said: I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm really not feeling Terry Fontenot. Other than working for the Saints for 16 years in various roles and basking in their success for the past 10+ years, I don't see the appeal. Maybe if we gave Terry an Assistant GM role, I'd be down but I feel like he will be learning on the job if he's given the keys to the castle. I know it sounds stupid but potentially hiring a Louisiana native and Saint employee leaves a bad taste in my mouth too. Can someone please convince me that we would be in better hands with him than Rick Smith? At least he's been a GM before and has made crucial decisions for a franchise. Castle? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
k-train 8,643 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 You're acting like they just found some yokel that hates the Falcons (but somehow knows nothing else about football) getting sloshed on sazeracs while eating gator nuggets at a bayou barbecue. The dude has been in a significant role in the front office of one of the most consistently successful NFL franchises for over a decade & a half. Pretty sure he wouldn't be getting interviews if he wasn't qualified, didn't have connections, etc. ATLSAGE, athell, ATLskinjob and 6 others 4 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PriMeTiiMe 7,449 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 minute ago, k-train said: getting sloshed on sazeracs while eating gator nuggets at a bayou barbecue. slick0ne, Iron Saint, k-train and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chris2010 124 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 8 minutes ago, ATLSAGE said: My biggest knock is that he doesn't have a college scouting background. Hopefully, he has a network of scouts he trusts and maybe they leave NOLA for ATL but I'm still not finding any proof based on basic google research. Rick Smith checks a lot of those boxes for me. THIS RIGHT HERE! IMO that has to be a top priority for the next GM and the reason why Fontenot is further down the list for me. Why I prefer Holmes, Dodds, Brown, etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ATLSAGE 58 Posted January 12 Author Share Posted January 12 1 minute ago, athell said: I like Smith. I like Fontenot. I don't know if we can go wrong with either tbh. So since you have gone down the rabbit hole, what have you not liked about what you have discovered about Fontenot? For me, there isn't a glaring negative on Terry's resume. I'm just comparing him to the candidate I want. Rick Smith's drafting record can be commended because he has hand picked some Hall of Famers (Watson, Watt, DHop). I think he could come in right away with the scouts he had in Houston and assemble a stronger front office than Fontenot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ATLSAGE 58 Posted January 12 Author Share Posted January 12 6 minutes ago, PriMeTiiMe said: I have a bad feeling it will be Rick Smith and their just doing their due diligence. He is complete trash though as a GM. Him drafting after the 1st round is the equivalent of him putting the entire draft class of names in a hat and randomly grabbing one. If you want to induce vomiting, I highly suggest torturing yourself into looking at his past drafts Rounds 2-7. Fair Warning: It's bad. Really...Really bad. Arian Foster was an underrated undrafted guy Rick Smith picked. Ben Jones is the Center in Tennessee right now and is a good player. All GMs have made bad picks. I just see a pattern of him coming away with impact players more often than not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ATLSAGE 58 Posted January 12 Author Share Posted January 12 5 minutes ago, k-train said: You're acting like they just found some yokel that hates the Falcons (but somehow knows nothing else about football) getting sloshed on sazeracs while eating gator nuggets at a bayou barbecue. The dude has been in a significant role in the front office of one of the most consistently successful NFL franchises for over a decade & a half. Pretty sure he wouldn't be getting interviews if he wasn't qualified, didn't have connections, etc. I feel like I'm being misunderstood. I'm not saying he's not qualified. I'm just asking his supporters what makes him more qualified than others. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
k-train 8,643 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Just now, chris2010 said: THIS RIGHT HERE! IMO that has to be a top priority for the next GM and the reason why Fontenot is further down the list for me. Why I prefer Holmes, Dodds, Brown, etc. If he takes NO's top scout & promotes them to the role of Director of College Scouting, what's the issue? We will have then taken away two significant parts of a divisional opponent's staff. ATLSAGE 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PriMeTiiMe 7,449 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Just now, ATLSAGE said: Arian Foster was an underrated undrafted guy Rick Smith picked. Ben Jones is the Center in Tennessee right now and is a good player. All GMs have made bad picks. I just see a pattern of him coming away with impact players more often than not. Well he did not pick Arian so to speak, he went undrafted lol but yes that was a good signing. If theirs any position an undrafted player can be found easiest though it would be RB. The fact he drafted for 12 years in Houston and Ben Jones is the best guy you can think of should tell you all you need to know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Great American 4,501 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 20 minutes ago, athell said: You people gotta get over the whole Saint connection. Honestly. Are you 12? You know they're the bad guys. They wear black and spit tobacco. ATLskinjob, athell and Iron Saint 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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