bigjmw84 380 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 I think Oliver could be a good fit at FS. Ulbrich implemented a hybrid role and he excelled in those new wrinkles. He has the prototypical size and speed for the position. He is still young and is one good coach from putting it all together I think We could trade down 4-5 spots and be in play for Farley or Surtain while getting at least a 2nd and 3rd round pick. If we were to get Surtain int the 1st and a guy like Eric Stokes in the 3rd we could truly get the secondary together. CB:Terrell/Stokes/Kazee FS:Oliver/Kazee SS:Neal/Hawkins CB:Surtain/Dennard/Shefield Faithful Falcon 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
papachaz 19,232 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 saw a cbs mock this morning that had us trading back to 7...but it had us taking kwity paye.... bleh..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NWFALCON 4,330 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) Oliver loses ALL of his technique when he reacts or reads something incorrectly and get beat. Do you want that as a safety? I don’t. Measurables don’t make the man. Edited January 9 by NWFALCON Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigjmw84 380 Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 Not a fan of Kwity at 7. Secondary, RB, and Pass Rush should be the focus if we don't go QB early. A qb available at 4 guarantees us 5-6 picks total in the 1st 3rounds, and that would be huge for the new regime to put its finger print on the organization. JohnnyFranchise 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconofShadows 1,339 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Oliver doesn't have the instincts for FS but i don't see a great FS in the draft (as of now) and we can't afford a great one in FA. Who knows what we do there Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Herr Doktor 8,164 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 I am a big believer that a certain amount of cross training is good. But, I'm a bigger fan of having players drafted to play a natural position. Teams get cute with selecting raw athletes, and then try to coach them up. The failure rate is high. PokerSteve and slick0ne 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atlantafan21 10,952 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Kazee is a FA. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EZfalcons 365 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Draft 1 or go all in on Simmons from denver Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IfTheBirdsCouldTalk 106 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Franchise tag Neal & draft Paris Ford 💀.. Teams would be afraid to catch the ball over the middle PokerSteve 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
g-dawg 43,250 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 32 minutes ago, FalconofShadows said: Oliver doesn't have the instincts for FS but i don't see a great FS in the draft (as of now) and we can't afford a great one in FA. Who knows what we do there JohnnyFranchise, PokerSteve and Precyse 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconofShadows 1,339 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 4 minutes ago, g-dawg said: He is on my to watch list but I've heard some love him some thin he's trash. I'm trying to see if I can find his all 22 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fernando C. 1,158 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 If Fields is not there.. we need to trade down and grab a extra 2nd ... we need 2 second rounders to draft a RB and S... they are some good ones in the 2nd that WOULD start right away... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Smiler11 6,256 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 He doesn't strike me as the type of corner who would do well at safety. He's long and rangy but struggles with short area quickness and awareness. He's much more suited to playing boundary corner in my opinion. Kendall Sheffield might be a good candidate though - he's always struggled when his head is turned away from the QB and is far better when the ball is in front of him. Precyse and bigjmw84 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faithful Falcon 8,181 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 2 hours ago, NWFALCON said: Oliver loses ALL of his technique when he reacts or reads something incorrectly and get beat. Do you want that as a safety? I don’t. Measurables don’t make the man. What has he read wrong? Oh, the bad pass rush. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thanat0s 5,165 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 4 hours ago, NWFALCON said: Oliver loses ALL of his technique when he reacts or reads something incorrectly and get beat. Do you want that as a safety? I don’t. Measurables don’t make the man. That’s what she said?🤔 JohnnyFranchise 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ergo Proxy 26,052 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Hype Staley as a HC candidate? Have him bring over his S? Cut Rico... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
autigerfan 928 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 I've said this before as well. No harm in trying the experiment in the off-season. If he doesn't work he gets cut but I think it is unlikely he rises above a #3 or likely a #4 CB in the NFL. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ryanvalz 3,721 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Oliver can stay exactly where he is at, nickle corner who isn't asked to take on elite wide receivers Precyse 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blizzard_falcon 2,444 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Plenty of good FS targets who will be there in the 3rd or 4th round. This is a solid and deep rookie safety class, especially at FS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Killing Floor 987 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Draft Caden Sterns if he’s available after a couple. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Refried Beans 1,485 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Smoke Monday out of Auburn Round 4. FS position filled. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GATXBOI 2,008 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 10 hours ago, Herr Doktor said: I am a big believer that a certain amount of cross training is good. But, I'm a bigger fan of having players drafted to play a natural position. Teams get cute with selecting raw athletes, and then try to coach them up. The failure rate is high. Yes I'm sick of cross training. Draft a true safety Holland,Ford ,Cisco Lecounte JohnnyFranchise and Herr Doktor 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
celtiksage 2,682 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 I can see us drafting one for sure, but there are also quite a few S candidate FAs that would be upgrades in Atl and some of them would be fairly cheap. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lornoth 12,228 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 I'm tired of seeing us line a CB up at FS, we've been trying that for years. Go get a real one in the draft, there's loads that would be better than what we have right now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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